NU is a tier where many Pokemon are usable, and there are a ton of different options. Research Week aids in helping explore the tier, and is especially effective right now as NU is relatively balanced. Who knows, maybe in future tier changes one of these Pokemon can be incredibly useful, potentially being able to check the new threats well. Maybe one of these Pokemon may find uses in other tiers and is not just a simple throw-away Pokemon, unlike some unfortunate Pokemon in NU.
Some rules:
-Be open-minded, don't just say something is terrible and walk away; at least look into them and see what options they may be able to utilize!
-Feel free to theorymon, but make it clear that you are theorymon'ing. At the end of the week, however, I want discussion to move towards how useful the Pokemon actually are in NU, and what sets are effective on them.
-Just because an analysis has been done for a Pokemon doesn't mean there isn't more to explore; it's quite possible that something might have gone unnoticed or is missing.
-Do not post in this thread complaining about the Pokemon I choose and/or suggesting ones we should do for future weeks. I want discussion to stay on topic about the 4 Pokemon we are "researching". Feel free to VM / PM me these suggestions, but don't expect the next research week to have all the Pokemon you suggested, or any of them.
Anyways, the 4 Pokemon we will be looking into for this Research Week are:
With so few Ghost-type pokemon being available in the tier, it's surprising to see such a viable pokemon fall to the wayside. Its Fire-typing truly distinguishes it from rivals such as Misdreavus and Drifblim, and Lampent can good use of it in a number of different ways. Its STAB Fire Blast is surprisingly powerful even without investment, and allows Lampent to take on Grass- and Bug-types with ease, while also 2HKOing Cryogonal. Access to the near-exclusive Flash Fire ability also allows it to deal with attackers such as Magmortar and Emboar effortlessly, while its support movepool contains gems such as Trick Room and Memento, as well as the more common Will-O-Wisp, Pain Split and Destiny Bond.
Arguably the most useful of the Simi-trio, Simipour makes a fine offensive pokemon that is unfortunately forever cast in the shadows of Samurott and Gorebyss. Like most offensive Water-type pokemon, it has access to powerful STAB in Hydro Pump and the excellent Ice Beam, but Simipour can also make good use of Grass Knot, Focus Blast, and even physical moves such as Rock Slide and Crunch for niche targets. Furthermore, with base 101 Speed, it outspeeds a significant proportion of the tier even with a Modest nature, letting it revenge-kill opponents such as Sawk and Magmortar much more effectively than its competition. While it doesn't have Shell Smash, it has the next best thing in Nasty Plot, and it makes good use of the move by forcing opponents out with its high initial offensive presence.
With excellent mixed attacking stats, respectable bulk and a great no-weaknesses typing, Eelektross makes a superb tank that can use a wide variety of techniques to KO its opposition. On the one hand, its access to special coverage moves such as Flamethrower, Grass Knot and Acid Spray, as well as a powerful STAB Volt Switch, makes it a great special attacker that can hit almost any opponent hard, and use Volt Switch to seize momentum from anything it can't. On the other hand, it can use Coil to become a dangerous physical booster, sweeping through opponents with powerful STAB Wild Charges or shuffling them into hazards repeatedly with Dragon Tail. Eelektross' unpredictability can also make it hard for opponents to deal with it, as checks for the special attacker are often defeated by the Coil set and vice versa.
While not as bulky as Musharna or as diverse as Gardevoir, Beheeyem has a number of offensive options that help distinguish it from its rivals, making it a tightly-focused but powerful sweeper in capable hands. As one of the only pokemon in the tier with access to both Trick Room and Nasty Plot, Beheeyem finds plenty of opportunities to sweep offensive teams that rely on outspeeding it to deal with it. This is further augmented by its astounding base 125 Special Attack, its terrible base 45 Speed, and its decent bulk and defensive typing. If Trick Room isn't compatible with your team line-up, it can use Recover to heal off residual Life Orb and entry hazard damage, or Thunder Wave to paralyse opponents as they switch in, to get the jump on them the following turn.
(cheers to erisia for the descriptions!)
In order to participate in the challenge, simply post here with a brand new alt. Post battle logs, experiences with your team on the ladder, and generally how a Pokemon has worked out for you: past or present.
Don't forget you're not just limited to this topic to discuss these Pokemon, I encourage you to talk about them on the #neverused irc chat as well! At the end of the week I hope we can reach a general consensus on how good these Pokemon really are, and maybe we might find some interesting discoveries.
One person will get chosen as the Research Week Champion for this week. This will be decided by me; the person who ladders the most and contributes to the research week discussion the most will get temporary Half Op status on #neverused and they will potentially get a few other perks! Good luck all!
I promise I'll keep this hof actually updated lol
Also, please add some more substance to your post other than "alt: x, using x". Feel free to theorymon a bit about the 'mons.
Some rules:
-Be open-minded, don't just say something is terrible and walk away; at least look into them and see what options they may be able to utilize!
-Feel free to theorymon, but make it clear that you are theorymon'ing. At the end of the week, however, I want discussion to move towards how useful the Pokemon actually are in NU, and what sets are effective on them.
-Just because an analysis has been done for a Pokemon doesn't mean there isn't more to explore; it's quite possible that something might have gone unnoticed or is missing.
-Do not post in this thread complaining about the Pokemon I choose and/or suggesting ones we should do for future weeks. I want discussion to stay on topic about the 4 Pokemon we are "researching". Feel free to VM / PM me these suggestions, but don't expect the next research week to have all the Pokemon you suggested, or any of them.
Anyways, the 4 Pokemon we will be looking into for this Research Week are:
(cheers to erisia for the descriptions!)
The Research Week Challenge:
- Users will use any number of the research week mons on their team
- Users will attempt to reach as high as possible on the ladder with the Pokemon. Breaking past the 1400 mark on the ladder with your registered alt will earn you a spot on the Hall of Fame: Gold Class. Crossing the 1325 mark will secure you a Silver Class spot while a 1250 rating will earn you a Bronze Class spot. Post a screen-shot of your peak in order to achieve this, and a pastebin of your team.
- Users will be expected to post their experiences with the pokemon they use, the teams they used, the problems they encoutered while trying to make the said pokemon work.
- If a user does not participate in the discussion, he will be passed over.
In order to participate in the challenge, simply post here with a brand new alt. Post battle logs, experiences with your team on the ladder, and generally how a Pokemon has worked out for you: past or present.
Don't forget you're not just limited to this topic to discuss these Pokemon, I encourage you to talk about them on the #neverused irc chat as well! At the end of the week I hope we can reach a general consensus on how good these Pokemon really are, and maybe we might find some interesting discoveries.
One person will get chosen as the Research Week Champion for this week. This will be decided by me; the person who ladders the most and contributes to the research week discussion the most will get temporary Half Op status on #neverused and they will potentially get a few other perks! Good luck all!
Gold Class: 1400+
Silver Class: 1325-1399
Bronze Class: 1250-1324
I promise I'll keep this hof actually updated lol
Also, please add some more substance to your post other than "alt: x, using x". Feel free to theorymon a bit about the 'mons.
