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80 HP / 80 Atk / 90 Def / 110 SpA / 130 SpD / 110 Spe
(potentially useful moves are bolded)
level 1- Psywave
level 5- Wish
level 10- Helping Hand
level 15- Safeguard
level 20- Dragon Breath
level 25- Water Sport
level 30- Refresh
level 35- Mist Ball
level 40- Zen Headbutt
level 45- Recover
level 50- Psycho Shift
level 55- Charm
level 60- Psychic
level 65- Heal Pulse
level 70- Reflect Type
level 75- Guard Split
level 80- Dragon Pulse
level 85- Healing Wish
level 5- Wish
level 10- Helping Hand
level 15- Safeguard
level 20- Dragon Breath
level 25- Water Sport
level 30- Refresh
level 35- Mist Ball
level 40- Zen Headbutt
level 45- Recover
level 50- Psycho Shift
level 55- Charm
level 60- Psychic
level 65- Heal Pulse
level 70- Reflect Type
level 75- Guard Split
level 80- Dragon Pulse
level 85- Healing Wish
TM01- Hone Claws
TM02- Dragon Claw
TM03- Psyshock
TM04- Calm Mind
TM05- Roar
TM06- Toxic
TM10- Hidden Power
TM11- Sunny Day
TM13- Ice Beam
TM15- Hyper Beam
TM16- Light Screen
TM17- Protect
TM18- Rain Dance
TM19- Telekinesis
TM20- Safeguard
TM21- Frustration
TM22- SolarBeam
TM24- Thunderbolt
TM25- Thunder
TM26- Earthquake
TM27- Return
TM29- Psychic
TM30- Shadow Ball
TM32- Double Team
TM33- Reflect
TM37- Sandstorm
TM40- Aerial Ace
TM42- Facade
TM44- Rest
TM45- Attract
TM48- Round
TM53- Energy Ball
TM57- Charge Beam
TM65- Shadow Claw
TM67- Retaliate
TM68- Giga Impact
TM70- Flash
TM73- Thunder Wave
TM77- Psych Up
TM78- Bulldoze
TM85- Dream Eater
TM86- Grass Knot
TM87- Swagger
TM90- Substitute
HM1- Cut
HM2- Fly
HM3- Surf
HM5- Waterfall
HM6- Dive
TM02- Dragon Claw
TM03- Psyshock
TM04- Calm Mind
TM05- Roar
TM06- Toxic
TM10- Hidden Power
TM11- Sunny Day
TM13- Ice Beam
TM15- Hyper Beam
TM16- Light Screen
TM17- Protect
TM18- Rain Dance
TM19- Telekinesis
TM20- Safeguard
TM21- Frustration
TM22- SolarBeam
TM24- Thunderbolt
TM25- Thunder
TM26- Earthquake
TM27- Return
TM29- Psychic
TM30- Shadow Ball
TM32- Double Team
TM33- Reflect
TM37- Sandstorm
TM40- Aerial Ace
TM42- Facade
TM44- Rest
TM45- Attract
TM48- Round
TM53- Energy Ball
TM57- Charge Beam
TM65- Shadow Claw
TM67- Retaliate
TM68- Giga Impact
TM70- Flash
TM73- Thunder Wave
TM77- Psych Up
TM78- Bulldoze
TM85- Dream Eater
TM86- Grass Knot
TM87- Swagger
TM90- Substitute
HM1- Cut
HM2- Fly
HM3- Surf
HM5- Waterfall
HM6- Dive
Covet, Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse, Helping Hand, Icy Wind, Last Resort, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Outrage, Role Play, Roost, Sleep Talk, Snore, Tailwind, Trick, Zen Headbutt
Our wonderful jet plane has received Soul Dew again! This lets it do a remarkable amount of things in the metagame that it could only do last generation like becoming the perfect and only Specs Kyogre counter! With the unveiling of gen 5 it also received Psyshock which lets it beat everything and anything in a Calm Mind war, and it gets STAB on it! With Soul Dew boosting its mediocre Special Attack and Defense to sky-high heights, pretty good speed (by uber standards), a fabulous movepool and STABS, it can and probably will leave a permanent mark on the metagame.
All right but sadly things aren't that high for Latias. Its relatively mediocre HP and Defense stat let it down, in the sense that it probably cannot stomach any Physical hits, unless it wants to be 1-2HKOed by them. What's worse is that its typing unfortunately gives it a wide set of common weaknesses. Its weak to the common Dragon-, Ice-, Ghost-, Bug-, and Dark- type moves, further worsening the poor dragon's life. That doesn't render it useless though! Its multiple resistances, huge Special Attack and Defense, and movepool, along with levitate and high speed are enough to ensure it a good niche in the tier.
So what sets can this dragon possibly run? Aside Specs Kyogre, what can it beat? Will it put Arceus-Psychic and Dragon's Calm Mind sets out of business? What impact will it have on the metagame? What roles does it fill best? What outclasses it? Will I have to make a Latios thread or will someone else do that -_-? Are sets from gen 4 still as effective as they used to be? Will this thing suffer from 4MSS? Discuss anything you want but remember to always enjoy the discussion! (so long as they're in the Uber rules)
The possible sets! (more will be edited in when they are discovered / mentioned)
Stall Breaker
Latias @ Soul Dew*** set by Manaphy
252 HP / 252 Spe / 4 SpD (EV Spread still pending...)
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
-Dragon Pulse
-Substitute / Refresh / Roar
-Calm Mind
-Recover
Latias's massive Special Attack, Defense, Speed, and ability, levitate, allow it to become an adept stall breaker. With this set when using Substitute, you can beat Ferrothorn one-on-one, out stalling all of it's Gyro Balls. The massive power behind Latias allows it to go on using just Dragon Pulse, as coverage is not necessary due to her insane power. If you opt to use refresh, Latias will gain the ability to set up on Pokemon like Chansey and Blissey, since it can just refresh the status away. Roar also is an interesting option, when Latias's offensive pressure gets coupled with a few hazards on the field, it gains the ability to shuffle its counter out, and force hazard damage on most of the enemy's team. This also allows it to very easily win Calm Mind wars, since it can just Roar its enemy out when it feels the enemy has acquired too many boosts. Regardless of the move choice, this thing makes for a pretty cool Kyogre counter and stall breaker, only taking a good chunk from Ice Beam and being able to very easily set up on most of stall's pokemon. In addition, Kyogre's Ice Beam will fail to 2HKO after a Calm Mind.
Latias @ Soul Dew*** Shrang's / Firecape's set
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 52 HP / 204 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Pulse
- Recover
- Psyshock / Thunder
Latias actually doesn't need that much bulk at all. Soul Dew puts your Special Defense at 444 uninvested, which is equivalent to a fully EVed, +ve nature base 152 SpD (basically Ho-oh's Special Defense, fully invested). 52 HP / 204 SpA / 252 Spe Timid guarantees the OHKO on Palkia with Dragon Pulse regardless of Stealth Rock, and with your Special Defense, you can even tank a Scarf Draco Meteor to the face and not give a shit.
Psyshock is a great option now, since you can more easily defeat Calm Minders, but Thunder is still excellent to smite Kyogre and Manaphy pretty much immediately, as well as hitting stuff like Scizor and (soon) Genesect for a lot of damage, thinking you're Pursuit or U-turn fodder.