Framerate/lag issues?

Frozen Darkness · Jul 1st, 2012, 3:02:20 PM

Whenever I battle, animations are always like laggy and not smooth like I think they should. Also when i type there is a delay. I do not have a gaming computer but it's annoying to deal with. Anyone have a solution?

Frozen Darkness · Jul 1st, 2012, 3:37:43 PM

For those interested, do not play this on internet explorer. problem fixed

**Fatecrashers** · Jul 1st, 2012, 3:40:41 PM

lolol internet explorer

***Antar**** · Jul 1st, 2012, 3:52:25 PM

Which IE?

Ray Jay · Jul 1st, 2012, 3:53:54 PM

I was using IE7 and had the similar problem. I would say 90% of the time I've answered this question for people it's been Internet Explorer based, not hardware based, just switch to something else (I use Chrome now with 0 problems).

AJC · Jul 1st, 2012, 3:59:15 PM

serious don't use IE unless you have to folks there's a reason why IE is known in other browser circles as "the browser you use to get a better browser."

***Zarel**** · Jul 1st, 2012, 5:33:16 PM

I thought I already blocked IE versions below 9 because of this exact issue? o_o

Fun fact: The fact that we use socket.io instead of raw websockets, just to support IE9, is currently the reason for any remaining lag you may experience.

Flashstorm1 · Jul 1st, 2012, 11:14:57 PM

I am using Google Chrome and am having difficulty even connecting to the server. If the client and server do manage to load, the page freezes within a minute, forcing me to kill it and attempt to connect again.

**Fatecrashers** · Jul 1st, 2012, 11:38:06 PM

Me and others are using Chrome with zero problems, are you sure you don't have too many tabs open over a long period of time? It's good to close the browser at the end of the day and clear all the processes.

Whimsiboss · Jul 2nd, 2012, 12:03:22 AM

hi, personally i think that the simulator is pretty glitchy even for just being in BETA version i can't even select anything it just freezes. it makes me so mad

Flashstorm1 · Jul 2nd, 2012, 12:03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Fatecrashers

Me and others are using Chrome with zero problems, are you sure you don't have too many tabs open over a long period of time? It's good to close the browser at the end of the day and clear all the processes.

I closed my browser about two hours ago. I'll do so again and see if I have an easier time getting on.

Also, let me ask this. Are you guys also lagging like crap?

Skyshayde · Jul 2nd, 2012, 6:49:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Flashstorm1

I closed my browser about two hours ago. I'll do so again and see if I have an easier time getting on.

Also, let me ask this. Are you guys also lagging like crap?

It did for me, it's been better for a month~ though

***Antar**** · Jul 2nd, 2012, 7:44:04 PM

Something I'd like to bring up:

I can (and sometimes do) monitor lag on Smogon PO / PS. It's actually really easy to do, without even being "on" either program.

I remote into the server and run top. It gives me an output like this:

node = PS
Server = PO

The relevant column is "%CPU." When that's maxed out at 100, the server is lagging (anything less than 100, and it's fine). In watching the servers, I see Server hit 100 far more than node. And when Server hits 100, it tends to stay there for a lot longer.

Now you want to know how many users are currently on Showdown? 382.

How about PO, which is lagging MORE and HARDER? 151.

In other words, PO lags WORSE with HALF as many users logged on.*

I'm not saying that PS' lag issues aren't real and don't need to be fixed. But I *am* saying that moving to PS is a step in the right direction.

*For PO, at least, lag isn't so much about the number of users logged in as the number that are TRYING to log in. The way we limit lag on PO is to only let two people log in every ten seconds.

Diablix · Jul 3rd, 2012, 8:17:28 AM

Anyone else had troubles playing this on an iOS device? I've tried it on my iPhone 4 and it's very laggy, freezing often. I do not say it is totally unplayable, but trust me after one or two battles at most you'll log out since the experience is absolutely not funny.

Both on my laptop and desktop pc with firefox it works more than fine, instead.

eaglehawk · Jul 3rd, 2012, 11:39:10 PM

Yeah. I also experience the same lagging problems on Google Chrome. I restarted my computer and ran Showdown after reboot. Still lagged a bit, and I checked that none of the problems were from my processor or any of that. It really becomes annoying to play after a while.

Magik · Jul 5th, 2012, 11:28:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Diablix

Anyone else had troubles playing this on an iOS device? I've tried it on my iPhone 4 and it's very laggy, freezing often. I do not say it is totally unplayable, but trust me after one or two battles at most you'll log out since the experience is absolutely not funny.

Both on my laptop and desktop pc with firefox it works more than fine, instead.

Same here..
Playing on a phone is very laggy but I guess thats fine as its still in beta....
Oh btw I tried playing it on the google chrome app and its a less laggy...(well for me)
PS! works fine on my computer sometimes it disconnects though..
If its ok can you guys make a way to toggle the chat? Sometimes its just annoying.. and causing some lag?..

Diablix · Jul 5th, 2012, 2:04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Magik

If its ok can you guys make a way to toggle the chat? Sometimes its just annoying.. and causing some lag?..

I believe it could be useful on mobile devices. Since (at least on my iPhone) I believe it's not a matter of bandwidth but more of computational power I think that having the ability to remove optional contents (like the chat) could improve performances (as long as the chat is not loaded at all, of course if it's only hidden then it wouldn't change much)

Yamata no Orochi · Jul 5th, 2012, 8:11:39 PM

I use Google Chrome and the tab freezes before I can even TOUCH the password login bar. I know it wasn't like this before so I hope it gets fixed soon.

**Arcticblast** · Jul 5th, 2012, 8:45:58 PM

Keeping only a few teams on PS at a time actually helps the lag quite a bit, or so I've noticed. Not a ton, but it helps. Back them up on Notepad if you don't want them gone.

Flashstorm1 · Jul 5th, 2012, 9:50:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Yamata no Orochi

I use Google Chrome and the tab freezes before I can even TOUCH the password login bar. I know it wasn't like this before so I hope it gets fixed soon.

Same. I've followed all the troubleshooting steps provided to me and nothing has yet to resolve my lag / freezing issue.

As a disclaimer, I am not intending to insult or otherwise criticize the developers of Pokemon Showdown with my constant complaining. However, in future instances, could you please get your stuff together before promoting a service that is officially supported by the site? Either that or don't switch to something that is still in its beta stages. Thanks.

**Woodchuck** · Jul 5th, 2012, 11:52:06 PM

After experiencing some lag issues with Chrome, I tried out Opera web browser and the lag seemed to be less. It may have been just because it was a fresh browser that I had not been using / clogging up with tabs and cookies, but it's worth a shot for anyone having issues. Opera has been smoother for me so far, but I'll try it again more when I see more lag on Chrome.

edit: yeah, opera is definitely working better than chrome for me.

Pwnemon · Jul 5th, 2012, 11:59:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Flashstorm1

Same. I've followed all the troubleshooting steps provided to me and nothing has yet to resolve my lag / freezing issue.

As a disclaimer, I am not intending to insult or otherwise criticize the developers of Pokemon Showdown with my constant complaining. However, in future instances, could you please get your stuff together before promoting a service that is officially supported by the site? Either that or don't switch to something that is still in its beta stages. Thanks.

Moving to PS! this early was not in the plan; however, they had to support it before they intended to (and before it was finished) because PO is basically empty right around now and also lagging even worse than PS! (although if you're having tech support issues and not just general lag, we're currently running dual support right now so you can feel free to use PO until the issue is solved!)

gah people bitch so much

Song of Life · Jul 6th, 2012, 12:06:05 AM

lag, lag, lag...

very lag! tsc

darkrai494 · Jul 6th, 2012, 12:11:59 AM

I'm having so much lag for my kindle from it, that it crashes every single time I use it. and no, I'm not using the silk browser, I'm using firefox.

akela · Jul 6th, 2012, 12:13:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pwnemon

Moving to PS! this early was not in the plan; however, they had to support it before they intended to (and before it was finished) because PO is basically empty right around now and also lagging even worse than PS! (although if you're having tech support issues and not just general lag, we're currently running dual support right now so you can feel free to use PO until the issue is solved!)

gah people bitch so much

In this situation, it seems like it has less to do with Pokemon Showdown and more to do with the servers in question (Since both PS and PO are being supported and lagging like hell).

Jul 1st, 2012, 3:02:20 PM	#1
Frozen Darkness Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 22	Framerate/lag issues? Whenever I battle, animations are always like laggy and not smooth like I think they should. Also when i type there is a delay. I do not have a gaming computer but it's annoying to deal with. Anyone have a solution?

Jul 1st, 2012, 3:40:41 PM	#3
Fatecrashers UNH UNH UNH UNH Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,915	lolol internet explorer __________________

Jul 1st, 2012, 3:52:25 PM	#4
*Antar That's Dr. Antar to you Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,081 DC Metro Area	Which IE? __________________ Codes and Hacks I Use PBR FC: 4898-8739-8815 (See here) DS FCs on Request My Narrated PBR & Gen V Battles My Trade Thread Convert any sim team to pkms Pokemetrics: A Blog

Jul 1st, 2012, 3:53:54 PM	#5
Ray Jay Clearly cannot choose the wine in front of you Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,508	I was using IE7 and had the similar problem. I would say 90% of the time I've answered this question for people it's been Internet Explorer based, not hardware based, just switch to something else (I use Chrome now with 0 problems). __________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. Katakiri: How did you even get into this university?

Jul 1st, 2012, 3:59:15 PM	#6
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Jul 1st, 2012, 3:37:43 PM	#2
Frozen Darkness Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 22	For those interested, do not play this on internet explorer. problem fixed

Jul 1st, 2012, 5:33:16 PM	#7
*Zarel >> BEGIN POSTBIT Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,170 >> END POSTBIT	I thought I already blocked IE versions below 9 because of this exact issue? o_o Fun fact: The fact that we use socket.io instead of raw websockets, just to support IE9, is currently the reason for any remaining lag you may experience. __________________ Pokemon Showdown \| Replay player \| No, I am not impressed that you know that my name is Guangcong Luo. The PS website says "Copyright Guangcong Luo" at the bottom, ffs.

Jul 1st, 2012, 11:14:57 PM	#8
Flashstorm1 Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,373 Texas	I am using Google Chrome and am having difficulty even connecting to the server. If the client and server do manage to load, the page freezes within a minute, forcing me to kill it and attempt to connect again. __________________ But everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked... Feel free to message me if you would like to add me on Skype, PSN, or Steam.

Jul 1st, 2012, 11:38:06 PM	#9
Fatecrashers UNH UNH UNH UNH Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,915	Me and others are using Chrome with zero problems, are you sure you don't have too many tabs open over a long period of time? It's good to close the browser at the end of the day and clear all the processes. __________________

Jul 2nd, 2012, 12:03:22 AM	#10
Whimsiboss Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3 San Diego	hi, personally i think that the simulator is pretty glitchy even for just being in BETA version i can't even select anything it just freezes. it makes me so mad __________________ Yolo Hai i'm just ur average azn that plays Pokemon "hey i just met you and this is crazy but here's my friendcode 0562 1680 7831 so battle me maybe"

Jul 2nd, 2012, 7:44:04 PM	#13
*Antar That's Dr. Antar to you Super Moderator** Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,081 DC Metro Area	Something I'd like to bring up: I can (and sometimes do) monitor lag on Smogon PO / PS. It's actually really easy to do, without even being "on" either program. I remote into the server and run top. It gives me an output like this: node = PS Server = PO The relevant column is "%CPU." When that's maxed out at 100, the server is lagging (anything less than 100, and it's fine). In watching the servers, I see Server hit 100 far more than node. And when Server hits 100, it tends to stay there for a lot longer. Now you want to know how many users are currently on Showdown? 382. How about PO, which is lagging MORE and HARDER? 151. In other words, PO lags WORSE with HALF as many users logged on.* I'm not saying that PS' lag issues aren't real and don't need to be fixed. But I am saying that moving to PS is a step in the right direction. For PO, at least, lag isn't so much about the number of users logged in as the number that are TRYING to log in. The way we limit lag on PO is to only let two people log in every ten seconds. __________________ Codes and Hacks I Use* PBR FC: 4898-8739-8815 (See here) DS FCs on Request My Narrated PBR & Gen V Battles My Trade Thread Convert any sim team to pkms Pokemetrics: A Blog

Jul 3rd, 2012, 8:17:28 AM	#14
Diablix Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 8	Anyone else had troubles playing this on an iOS device? I've tried it on my iPhone 4 and it's very laggy, freezing often. I do not say it is totally unplayable, but trust me after one or two battles at most you'll log out since the experience is absolutely not funny. Both on my laptop and desktop pc with firefox it works more than fine, instead.

Jul 3rd, 2012, 11:39:10 PM	#15
eaglehawk Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 31	Yeah. I also experience the same lagging problems on Google Chrome. I restarted my computer and ran Showdown after reboot. Still lagged a bit, and I checked that none of the problems were from my processor or any of that. It really becomes annoying to play after a while.

Jul 5th, 2012, 8:11:39 PM	#18
Yamata no Orochi Lie to myself Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 258	I use Google Chrome and the tab freezes before I can even TOUCH the password login bar. I know it wasn't like this before so I hope it gets fixed soon. __________________ Loli Hadron Collider

Jul 5th, 2012, 8:45:58 PM	#19
Arcticblast is going goat Moderator Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,000 #serperiors Mentor	Keeping only a few teams on PS at a time actually helps the lag quite a bit, or so I've noticed. Not a ton, but it helps. Back them up on Notepad if you don't want them gone. __________________ New to Smogon? Afraid to jump into discussion? Introduce yourself! ------------------- Fail Cup \| Scramble! \| RMTs: Night Stall (OU) \| ARcTicblast \| Demon Spawn \| signature art by Zracknel additional credit to Pocket and AccidentalGreed Last edited by Arcticblast; Jul 5th, 2012 at 8:56:20 PM.

Jul 5th, 2012, 11:52:06 PM	#21
Woodchuck <Feranfell> punbot irl aka virginity protector Moderator Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,690 us best	After experiencing some lag issues with Chrome, I tried out Opera web browser and the lag seemed to be less. It may have been just because it was a fresh browser that I had not been using / clogging up with tabs and cookies, but it's worth a shot for anyone having issues. Opera has been smoother for me so far, but I'll try it again more when I see more lag on Chrome. edit: yeah, opera is definitely working better than chrome for me. __________________

Jul 6th, 2012, 12:06:05 AM	#23
Song of Life Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 19 Brasil RJ	lag, lag, lag... very lag! tsc

Jul 6th, 2012, 12:11:59 AM	#24
darkrai494 Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 14	I'm having so much lag for my kindle from it, that it crashes every single time I use it. and no, I'm not using the silk browser, I'm using firefox.