MrSableye's Emloop Guide

This is on the first page, it's fairly simple. Type in your frame # in the top red box. Then click the beige outlined box under it, this will convert it into a time shown in the blue outlined box. When you are ready, press the green outlined box to start the timer, which is shown in the dark red box (Minutes Seconds Milliseconds). The orange "x" box clears it. In the pink box you can put in a value that makes it start a little earlier, for example: If I put in 10 in the pink box, and my original time was 20 seconds, it would be 10 seconds. This is useful if you know how much you are usually off by. In the purple box under the timer is the "beeper", when selected, every second after the time you input (in this case 10) it will beep (thanks Lightsabre!), this can help you improve your reaction time.

More information will be added to this section.


Credits to Lightsabre and Geren. (For information on how to use these spreads, check out some of the links below)


Let me start off by saying that this is a time consuming process and it used only in Pokemon Emerald, so if you don't have any extra time or Pokemon Emerald, stop right now before you waste your time doing this in D/P.

The idea is that Pokemon Emerald has a Psuedo-Random Number Generator that is used to determine a Pokemon's stats, natures, gender, and etc. It is ordered by frames. When a player SRs (soft resets) the frames restart from the beginning. One with knowledge of how long a frame is (1/60th of a second) can basically 'choose' the IVs of their Pokemon.

Let me give you a simple example of the process. Let's say you find a spread of 3/20/B/A/2/24 at frame 60 (probably not the real one). 60/60 = 1. So 1 second after restarting, a Pokemon (an egg, in this case) will have those stats. The process is very useful for people who want to have "legit" Pokemon. For a detailed guide to doing this, check out some of the links below!


Everstone's Thread (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49824&page=14).

Emloop itself (http://pokem.client.jp/emloop.htm).

Jibaku+'s Thread (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50696).

MetalKid's Gaming Resources IV Calculator (http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/IV.aspx).

Samnitar's Guide on NSider (http://nsider.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=411819).

Mingot's Thread [Has another method of determining IVs] (http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52392).

If you want a link to your thread or website removed, just tell me.


Post in this thread or PM me, people in other threads posted in the section before this may also be able to help you with it.


If you think I should take anything out or expand on an idea, just tell me, it'd help me AND you!

You should start compiling a list of good spreads. such as a perfect hidden power list, as well as perfection for phisical, special, and the 31/31/31/31/31/31 spread you say can't be found(I'll get the frame in a second). I see you've learned a lot since I was teaching you bits and pieces about Emerald abuse

EDIT: Here's Geren's list copied from the SRing in Emerald thread

944 F, (15.73 Seconds), B-19-A-30-30-B
-Gives close to flawless Hidden Power Ground (HP Ground 70 31/19/31/30/30/31).
-Gives close to flawless Hidden Power Fight (HP Ground 70 31/19/30/30/30/30).

1385 F, (23.08 Seconds), 27-31-30-B-B-30
-Gives a nice spread for mixed HP Fire sweepers (27/31/30/30/31/30).
-Gives a nice spread for mixed Hp Rock Sweepers (27/31/30/31/30/30)

2391 F, (39.85 Seconds), 31-4-31-A-A-B
-Gives flawless Special Attacker (31/4/31/31/31/31).

4985 F, (83.08 Seconds), 31-9-A-31-B-B
-Another great spread for Special Attackers (31/9/31/31/31/31)

10851 F, (180.83 Seconds), A-10-B-B-31-31
- Gives Flawless speed Hidden Power Grass (31/10/31/30/31/31),
Water (31/10/30/30/31/31), and Ice (31/10/30/31/31/31)

15117 F, (251.95 Seconds), 31-B-A-21-31-A
-Gives flawless Physical Attacker (31/31/31/21/31/31).

13727 F, (228.78 Seconds), 31-19-B-B-A-31
-Gives just about flawless Hidden Power Electric (HP Electric 70 31/19/31/30/31/31).

22885 F, (381.41 Seconds), B-B-31-29-A-0
-Good spread for pokemons that require minimal Spe such as TR users. (31/31/31/29/31/0)

29545 F, (492.41 Seconds), A-6-A-30-A-30
-Flawless spread for HP Fire users (31/6/31/30/31/30).

31280 F, (521.33 Seconds), 29-A-A-B-31-31
-Gives close to completely flawless. Gives a Life Orb number for mixed attackers. (29/31/31/31/31/31).

34417 F, (571.61 Seconds), 30-A-31-B-A-0
-One point from Flawless spread for TR pokemons (30/31/31/31/31/0)

73781 F, (1229.68 Seconds), 31-B-B-31-A-31
-Flawless (31/31/31/31/31/31)

Lightsabre said:

You should start compiling a list of good spreads. such as a perfect hidden power list, as well as perfection for phisical, special, and the 31/31/31/31/31/31 spread you say can't be found(I'll get the frame in a second). I see you've learned a lot since I was teaching you bits and pieces about Emerald abuse

Click to expand...

Oh wow, I didn't know that flawless IVs were possible, I guess I will add a list of spreads to it. Thanks!

somthing else you should do, or I could do it later. is write a guide on the stopwatch page. it's one of the more usefull pages.

EDIT: I haven't finnished the guide on the stop watch part yet(and I can't get pictures in like you were doing), but I did get this stuff worked out.

Here's the frames for some dittos that will help you immensly for these spreads.

key: (T)=timid nature, (M)=Modest, (J)=Jolly, (A)=Adamant, (N)=Naive, (Na)=Naughty, (Mi)=Mild, (L)=Lonely, (H)=Hasty, (B)=Brave, (S)=Sassy, (Q)=quiet, (R)=Relaxed.

now that that's out of the way I'll explain a bit more. these frames that I'll be putting in will represent frames that you Sweet Scent for. For a guide on sweet scenting, go to the Emerald abuse thread in Stark Mountain. The dittos will always represent the parent with more stats passing


for the ground spread here. (T) 13596 (M) 15578
944 F, (15.73 Seconds), B-19-A-30-30-B
-Gives close to flawless Hidden Power Ground (HP Ground 70 31/19/31/30/30/31).
For this fight spread. (T) 42842 (M) 35734
-Gives close to flawless Hidden Power Fight (HP Ground 70 31/19/30/30/30/30).

For this fire spread. (T) 17111 (M)77404
1385 F, (23.08 Seconds), 27-31-30-B-B-30
-Gives a nice spread for mixed HP Fire sweepers (27/31/30/30/31/30).
for this rock spread. (T) 3915 *
-Gives a nice spread for mixed Hp Rock Sweepers (27/31/30/31/30/30)

For this spread. (T) 1212 (M) 50863
2391 F, (39.85 Seconds), 31-4-31-A-A-B
-Gives flawless Special Attacker (31/4/31/31/31/31).

don't bother
4985 F, (83.08 Seconds), 31-9-A-31-B-B
-Another great spread for Special Attackers (31/9/31/31/31/31)

Grass: (T) 71127 (M)3422 Water:(T)15214 (M)7982
Ice: (T)11473 (M)5706
10851 F, (180.83 Seconds), A-10-B-B-31-31
- Gives Flawless speed Hidden Power Grass (31/10/31/30/31/31),
Water (31/10/30/30/31/31), and Ice (31/10/30/31/31/31)

(J)21109 (A)34462
15117 F, (251.95 Seconds), 31-B-A-21-31-A
-Gives flawless Physical Attacker (31/31/31/21/31/31).

same as the grass spread
13727 F, (228.78 Seconds), 31-19-B-B-A-31
-Gives just about flawless Hidden Power Electric (HP Electric 70 31/19/31/30/31/31).

(B) 5306 (S)2238 (Q) 66310 (R)33784
22885 F, (381.41 Seconds), B-B-31-29-A-0
-Good spread for pokemons that require minimal Spe such as TR users. (31/31/31/29/31/0)

(T) 42054 (M) NONE **
29545 F, (492.41 Seconds), A-6-A-30-A-30
-Flawless spread for HP Fire users (31/6/31/30/31/30).

(H) 1475, (N) 16273, (L) 3253, (Na) 43219, (A) 48730, (J)78348
31280 F, (521.33 Seconds), 29-A-A-B-31-31
-Gives close to completely flawless. Gives a Life Orb number for mixed attackers. (29/31/31/31/31/31).

I didn't bother searching this. you can if you want.
34417 F, (571.61 Seconds), 30-A-31-B-A-0
-One point from Flawless spread for TR pokemons (30/31/31/31/31/0)

(M) 55469***
73781 F, (1229.68 Seconds), 31-B-B-31-A-31
-Flawless (31/31/31/31/31/31)

* the only user of HP[rock] that I know of is ninetales, and it always wants timid nature

** honestly. I searched to rediculus numbers looking for a modest one. there isn't one. I consider it amazing that there was a timid one

*** use the dittos from the 29/31/31/31/31/31 spread as well


if you want a blank version of this sheet I posted it in my above post

I already knew most of this about Emloop but it was not easy at all for me to learn it. I wish you had made this sooner because your explanations and detailed pictures make it easy to grasp! You should make one for the other parts of Emloop, which I do not understand, such as the stopwatch and the other 2 top right buttons. Thanks for the guide ^_^.

Thanks for writing this guide. I think having the text in black would have been better, but it's still good.

Does this not work in DPP as well?

X-act said:

Thanks for writing this guide. I think having the text in black would have been better, but it's still good.

Does this not work in DPP as well?

Click to expand...

This device is not for DPP, but there is a way to abuse the RNG in DPP. A Sticky in Wi-fi has the info you need, if you want to learn more.

Yes I'm aware of that thread, which is why I asked if this could be used for DPP as well.

If you're looking for a simple answer, no. The two RNGs are completely different. Emerald is on a fixed, frame based pattern that always has the same starting point, while the DPP RNG is much, MUCH more complicated than that (reads date, time, steps, all kinds of things to determine starting point and advancement).

Anyways, I just bought Emerald so I'm looking forward to RNG abuse. This is just for breeding, correct? It might be kind of obvious but I dislike any doubt. As for the As and Bs, does that correspond to their placement in the daycare? Thanks a ton for doing this though, when I first went to emloop I was confused as all hell but now it looks managable. I look forward to using emloop and your guide eventually, so thanks again for making this!

Actually the RNGs are exactly the same - it's the starting seed formula that is different for RS, FRLG, E, and DPP.

Anyways, I just bought Emerald so I'm looking forward to RNG abuse. This is just for breeding, correct? It might be kind of obvious but I dislike any doubt. As for the As and Bs, does that correspond to their placement in the daycare? Thanks a ton for doing this though, when I first went to emloop I was confused as all hell but now it looks managable. I look forward to using emloop and your guide eventually, so thanks again for making this!

Click to expand...

the As and Bs represent parent, yes(A=top parent or first parent, B=lower parent or second parent). and actualy, this can work for capturing pokemon too, though Jibaku's guide goes more in depth there.

Thanks for the comments, I'll work on adding a bit more to it, as I really only explain one section of it.

EDIT: Added a section for the Emloop timer.

Quick question: would timing be easier if I converted the seconds into minutes?

Eloomp's timer will do that for you, as well as timing you itself. another handy feature you missed Mr. Sableye, is the beeper. see that little box at the bottom of the timer with the ten next to it? if you check that box, and refresh the page, then when the timer hits 10, 9, 8, etc. it'll beep. that means you can get your hand into a rythem to improve your reaction

Lightsabre said:

Eloomp's timer will do that for you, as well as timing you itself. another handy feature you missed Mr. Sableye, is the beeper. see that little box at the bottom of the timer with the ten next to it? if you check that box, and refresh the page, then when the timer hits 10, 9, 8, etc. it'll beep. that means you can get your hand into a rythem to improve your reaction

Click to expand...

Thanks, I just updated it with that new information. :)

Mr. Sableye, would you like the assistance of a japanese translator?

I can read Hiragana and Katakana, an a little Kanji.
I could go through the images and white out the japanese and put english over it, so that people can understand it :3

ポケモン エメタイマー
PoKeMoN EMeTaIMa-
Pokemon Emtimer

^^

Harlequin Boy said:

Mr. Sableye, would you like the assistance of a japanese translator?

I can read Hiragana and Katakana, an a little Kanji.
I could go through the images and white out the japanese and put english over it, so that people can understand it :3

ポケモン エメタイマー
PoKeMoN EMeTaIMa-
Pokemon Emtimer

^^

Click to expand...

That would be great! It would help us so much to actual understand what it is saying (especially the third section which I have no idea what it does).

Glad I can be of help!

but all bets are off when it comes to Kanji...
It all depends on if I can trace the radials and stroke count to the correct kanji.

EDIT:

>.<

I'll research the kanji, but I can tell you that it says in bold when you click on it Pokemon ???ID Check.
It may be a Secret ID checker.

VV Text in the square-ish type box when you click the left grey box above it. VV
____It probably has to do with entering your ??? ID above.

表IDを入力してください
Please do (something[type in?]) with the ??? ID
色性格値を入力してください
lots of unknown Kanji @.@
Do (same something) with the (Lots of unknown kanji)

I'll do a more thorough check of that page later...

Notes for function 3

表 = Public, surface, face, front, outside, exterior, table, chart (omo te)
表ID = Possibly your normal ID..?

入(go in)力(power, might) = Input
入力してください = Please Input

It seems that the first type box that says 表ID is where you put either your Trainer ID, or your secret ID

______________________________________________________________

色 = Colour (iro)

性 = One's Nature, characteristic, nature, gender (saga)
Great, that's not difficult with pokemon at all xD
No idea which goes here, folks. May mean all of them.

格 = Status, character (kaku)

値 = price, cost, merit, variable (otai)

As best as I can tell, the second input text box pertains to RNGing for shinies, and that's it.

All for now folks ^^


EDIT:
I am gone until the 5th of June, so I won't be making any updates until after that.

This is a great guide ;>

Pokemon eme(rald)-timer :o

I just realized that the part where you type in your frames （フレーム, or fureemu）to convert them into seconds （秒に変換, 'byou ni henkan', lit. 'convert to seconds') refers to fps for what we've been calling the 'delay', rather than the other frames. xP Silly me.

Your directions are very clear, this is just in case anyone wants a bit of translation:

Red box: (fureemu)　Frames
Teal Box: (byou ni henkan) Convert to seconds
Blue Box: (jikan) Time
Box above Pink one:
(byou mae kara kaunto kaishi)
lit. Count start from before the (targetted) seconds
Pink box: (A little unclear, something that starts with "byou hayaku kaunto".../fail)

-----
表IDを入力してください
omote id wo nyuuryoku shitekudasai

Since omote does roughly translate to surface or face, it looks like they're asking for your OT ID number.

IDと色違いの性格値を入力して[検出]
"ID to irochigai no seikakuatai wo nyuuryoku shite (kenshutsu)
They're asking for you to input the personality value of the "different colored (pokemon)", which I assume is the PID of your shiny Pokemon.

It does look like a secret ID check, you're most likely correct.
ポケモン裏IDチェック stands for Pokemon (reverse/under) ID check.

Alright, moseying off~

The pink box is where you put the delay, if that helps.

X-Act said:

Actually the RNGs are exactly the same - it's the starting seed formula that is different for RS, FRLG, E, and DPP.

Click to expand...

Any more info on how RS and FR/LG's RNGs work? FR/LG's RNG is of particular interest because it contains legendaries not available in Emerald or D/P/Pt. Because it doesn't have an internal timer, what exactly is seeding the RNG, some variable(s) in the save data and/or input delay?

Thanks, I've gone to emploop a couple of times but then just been like "ohh god confusion!!" maybe now i can start actually make a half decent emerald team to beat the elite four....

Can anyone help me to find a spread for a physical attacker with HP flying and tell me which stats come from which parents? That's for my salamence. Thanks.

I have a question. In Everstone's thread, it says this:

Everstone said:

Now, many of you probably know that if you save in front of the old man from the daycare whenever he has an egg, it will preserve the egg's nature, ability, shininess, and gender.

Click to expand...

If it preserves shininess, then how can a certain frame number correspond to a shiny pokemon? Unless I'm doing this wrong, you wait until the daycare man has an egg, then you save and soft-reset from there. Wouldn't this mean that if the pokémon wasn't going to be shiny before, it won't be now, no matter what frame you get the egg on?

Edit: Oh, haha. I got it now. The shiny things doesn't apply to getting eggs, does it?