I'd like to start off by saying that it's great this thread is seeing some activity. I'll try to keep my posts on each mon short, and to the point - but no promises.
Greninja: It's been chilling in the A rank for a while, but it has been pretty lackluster. It's speed of 377 has started to fall behind with the release of new fast threats like Tapu koko and pheromosa, and it's unable to fight this wave of speed with a scarf. If you went scarf it would be unable to fight off some of the bulkier mons that are often found in the meta like Zard-X.
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 357-420 (120.2 - 141.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Greninja Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 237-280 (79.7 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Gren goes from ohkoing a common threat to not putting up a fight. With this in mind along with just a general eye test of the A- rank, which has mons like Donphan, Meloetta, and mimikyu, I propose it drop to
B+. It may seem a tad harsh, but I just truly believe it doesn't deserve to be any sort of A rank in the current Meta.
Crustle: Crustle came out of the gate guns blazing in gen 7, but it's definitely cooling off. The rise of Donphan, other sturdy users, and just a general need to prep for it now has definitely lowered its viability. It's still a great mon, but I'd definitely agree with a change to
A. It's still solid, but as the meta has evolved and breaking sturdy users has become more and more important it has definitely started to slide a bit.
Tapu Bulu: This mon has found itself in the viability rankings due to a new toy syndrome. If bulu had been released last gen it wouldn't have ever made the list. The only thing this mon has going for it is an ability to beat Gyara.
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Tapu Bulu Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gyarados in Grassy Terrain: 390-460 (117.8 - 138.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
While I agree beating Gyara is very important this gen I wouldn't give up a team slot for this mon to do it. With that in mind I have to suggest it be moved to
Unranked, but if you have to keep it on the list I suppose C- will suffice. (Just never think to myself wow, Bulu would be a great mon to add to this team,
ever)
Snorlax: This is a mon I had high hopes for, and have tested a fair amount. Let's just say it hasn't lived up to expectations.
Snorlax @ Normalium Z
Ability: Immunity
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Yawn
- Protect
- Double-Edge
- Belly Drum
It's not a bad set, just hasn't been able to ever take over and dominate. The fact its best set "IMO" can't touch ghosts like Aegi and Mimikyu also hurt it at team preview, since bringing it is an auto loss 1/3 of the time. Don't get me wrong it's still a lot of fun to use I just had hopes of B+ or A- for this mon, visions of grandeur if you will. I'd say it deserves
B- at this point as it still hits incredibly hard, yawn strats can be annoying to face, and it has a lot of ways to get a BD off which can make it very menacing. (Also my Ev's I'm sure could be optimized better, if you see me on the discord or PS! hit me up with a better spread - I'd appreciate it).
Quagsire: I love defensive Z-support sets a lot right now, and quag has a pretty solid one with Z-stockpile. Earlier in the thread I noticed
lost heros gave it C-, and I think that's a solid position for it. However, I'm going to suggest
C since I love the bulk, and it's a solid set for easing through the low ladder since not many prep for it. I realize that may not be the best reason, but in a tier where ladder play is a big deal I think it's good enough.
Landorus-T: I play a lot of 1v1, but I play even more OU - so I'm sick of lando-t. With that in mind I had no interest in testing this mon for myself. However,
Kentari has had a good amount of experience with it. I trust his judgement when it comes to Lando's spot in the Ranks, so
B- is where I say it should land. The only reason I say B- over B is because I've faced and beaten it twice, so it hasn't hindered me personally that much.
Latios: This is an interesting mon. Latios often runs into the same problems as Greninja. It's fairly fast, but it needs scarf to reach elite speed - while also needing specs/z item to secure 1hkos. This means Lati has to make decisions on what it wants to beat, causing the user to constantly make adjustments and risk hitting the wrong match up far to often. However, Lati is still a very strong mon, and if you stay on top of constantly adjusting to ladder match ups it can easily rise to the C+ rank, but due to the difficulties of this I'm suggesting
C.
Mew: I actually really like mew for the reason it's inconsistent in its set. This makes some players not really enjoy it since there isn't really a "best set" for it, but it can be manipulated to beat a lot. With Z stones and Mew's massive move pool it can be used to Cteam, the only problem is it's sorta a one time thing. The next day you play the set will have to be remade. This also doesn't include the likes of roost will-o defensive mew who has a niche as well. With all of this in mind I'm leaning towards
C+, although if played right can perform as well as a B ranked mon.
Hitmonlee: This is a mon that performs 1 job well. However, on a small ladder like 1v1 it rarely gets to shine. It is continuously Cteamed, no one is ever going to use hitmonlee to win over a period of 10+ games. Also I love sawk, so hitmonlee is just ehh to me. With that in mind I'm suggesting
C, if the ladder was the size of OU's it would be C+ or B-, but alas that just isn't the case.
Deoxys-s: MaceMaster suggested this thing be moved to C+ recently, and although it wasn't mentioned by
Dream Eater Gengar as a discussion topic I'd like to discuss it. I recently played Mace with it a few times in a tour and it performed very well. Upon personal testing it still performed well and I think
C+ is very appropriate. If you want more info on this mon go look at his post earlier in the thread - has a solid set and description, and I'm bad at quoting so you'll have to find it yourself...
Anyway thanks for taking the time to look at my suggestions.