Ur, great, another LO + sheer force post.
"After Staraptor/Braviary/Honchkrow is dead (which is easy)" yeah because every good player will say, oh shaymin s destroys my team, I'll just let my staraptor die. From my experience while using ph keldeo. Everybody kept his gale wing user until keldeo was dead.
In nearly every battle, i can check Staraptor with my Bisharp (there always keep in because CC or something else, i get a guaranteed OHKO on Staraptor and a possible OHKO on Braviary with Sucker Punch)
" In Stallteams, Chansey is the only thing that counters it." Snorlax can switch in, take 2 seed flare and ohko. Goodra, zapdos, levitran and skarmory too. And since most skarmory run either flash fire, gale wing or intimidate. 2 times out of 3 shaymin loses the battle.
Ok, youre right, im not often battle against Stall Teams :c
"252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Shaymin-S Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 421-497 (126 - 148.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO" bisharp ohkoe's with sucker punch so that's really irrelevant.
Many People switch Bisharp in Skymin on 1300.
"252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Shaymin-S Seed Flare vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Deoxys-S: 341-402 (112.1 - 132.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO" deoS invests to outspeed up to base 135 speed, so that's quite irrelevant too, unless you switch your deoxys in wich is stupid.
The most Deoxys i battled against used SR on first turn.
"252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Shaymin-S Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Entei: 398-471 (107.2 - 126.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO" If by chance he doesn't have refrigirate like 99% of entei's I encoutered.
I never saw an Refrigerate Entei, only things like Serene Grace and tinted lens.
Again on offense, 1v1 vs thundurus,dragonite or even tornadus and skymin loses. Not to forget popular scarfs that can take an attack from skymin like victini or genesect.
since protean is banned, i never battled against DNite, Thundu and Tornadus.
And that also does mean you need to spam seed miss. And give up that nice Sdef lowering.
Seed "Miss" only missed 1 time and yes, i know, but without Serene Grace, the sdef is not often lowered.
Shaymin has some better sets, tinted lens being one of them.
Which other sets are good?
Pls stop making lo+sheer force posts, everybody pretty much figured this out already. Maybe you could have just said "shaymin is a good user of lo+sheer force." that would have been enaugh.
Ok