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Gen 3 Back to RSE. RMT Stall

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by Crystal_, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Crystal_

    Crystal_ I ruined RBY!
    is a Pokemon Researcheris a Smogon Media Contributoris a Contributor Alumnusis a Past SPL Champion

    Dec 20, 2009
    After two years of RBY and GSC I have decided to make a comeback in RSE. I played it 2 years ago, but I used to play without any sense / strategy and without understanding the meta; I just knew basic pokemon, enough to win more than half of the battles with some prediction though, but nothing more, so I know I can't (shouldn't) use my past RSE knowledge now.

    Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 122 SAtk
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Beam
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 140 Def / 32 Spd / 86 SAtk *Enough to KO Dugtrio
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Heal Bell
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Leech Seed
    - Recover

    Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 HP / 254 Def / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Seismic Toss
    - Softboiled
    - Thunder Wave

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Keen Eye
    EVs: 252 HP / 46 Atk / 136 Def / 24 Spd / 52 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Rest
    - Spikes
    - Whirlwind

    Claydol @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 202 Def / 56 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Rest

    Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 122 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Rest
    - Shadow Ball
    - Sleep Talk
    - Will-O-Wisp

    As far as I read here, I have here the list of main threats but I don't actually know if I'm missing something important.

    Ttar - Celebi / Swampert (+ Claydol) [depending on the set]
    Flygon - Celebi / Swampert (+ Claydol) [depending on the set]
    Gengar - Dusclops
    Jirachi - Swampert / Blissey / Claydol [depending on the set]
    Aerodactyl - Swampert + Skarmory
    Metagross - Swampert + Skarmory
    Mence - Swampert / Skarm / Claydol / Dusclops [depending on the set]
    Heracross - Skarmory + Dusclops [prediction]
    Zapdos - Celebi / Swampert + Blissey
    Snorlax / Slaking / other CBNormals - Skarmory (+ Dusclops / Celebi etc [depending on the set]). With Maggy support prediction with Dusclops (is there a reasonable way to avoid Maggy?)
    Gyarados - Skarm / Dusclops [depending on the set]

    Yeah CalmCune. Also I don't know if there are some other threats for which a secondary phazer like Swampert is needed. Thoughts?

    Also, going to Battle of the Week's team, variations to play with? (like Gengar / Jirachi etc).

  2. -Absol-


    Oct 28, 2009
    jynx wins
    but also swordcross with a decent support, and for a stall team aren't good things :(

    international mg is anyway as this team, or very similiar, other variantas are sdnacepassbi+dactyl/meta or cbmence + ttar+ cune... (and dugtrio/magneton are in 100% of teams)

    is noious :(
  3. gene

    gene (* ̄(エ) ̄*)
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    May 1, 2005
    your team would have to fight an uphill battle against the very common tss team. zapdos stalls you forever, that celebi set is weak. i don't think this kind of team is worth using anymore, it went out of style in 2006.
  4. -Absol-


    Oct 28, 2009
    in international mg it is :(
    or similiar.

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