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Balanced mon

Discussion in 'Pokémon Showdown!' started by DrVlad, Jan 28, 2013.

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  1. DrVlad


    Jan 28, 2013
    I few friends of mine had a game mode idea called "Balanced Mon". the idea is simple, we plan to take the 251 pokemon and rebalance the pokemon. By rebalance we intend to bring every fully evolved Pokemon into the Ou tier. Some examples include increasing movepools, changing abilities and even altering base stats. some of the more main stream pokemon may have movepool reductions as well. much like create a pokemon we intend for it to be just another mode of play. looking into the coding for the simulater it seems doable enough, i just want to see if the project will get any support.
    Thanks for reading
    Feel free to leave any comments you like :)
  2. DrVlad


    Jan 28, 2013
    Notes, project is only goning to go as far as gold and silver for testing sake. notes includes all 5th gen items, moves and dreamworld
    Tentative Change list
    1.Removal of Stealthrock
    2.Removal of hidden power

    Upgrade list
    Arbok- add 20 to all base stats, add
    Articuno- Removal of Stealth rock
    Beedrill- add 45 atk and 35 speed, add ability Levatate
    Butterfree- add 20 to all stats, add baton pass
    Charazard- Removal of Stealth rock
    Dewgong- Add ability Snow Warning
    Ditto- no clue
    Dodrio-add ability Speed Boast, add move Batonpass
    Dunsparce- add 30 to hp, def and spd
    Electabuzz-replace all stats with electivire
    Farfetch'd-...its so bad I have no clue yet
    Fearow-add 20 to both defences, add moves bravebird, megahorn
    Flareon- add moves flareblitz, Ice fang, thunderfang, Agility and hone claws
    Furret- Add belly drum, exstream speed, ability glutany
    Girafarig- add 10 to all stats
    Golduck- not sure
    Golem- add sandstream
    Gligar- upsize
    Hitmonchan- shadow punch, bullet punch, add 30 spe
    Houndoom- add 10 hp
    Hypno- add 20 hp
    Jumpluff- add ability prankster
    Kangaskhan- Swordsdance, agility, ability no guard
    Kingler- add 25 speed,add shellsmash
    Lapras- add 20 speed
    Magmar- replace with magmortar, add flashfire
    Magneton- replace with magnezone
    Marowak- add 20 hp
    Meganium- add ability Harvest
    Miltank- add 30 spd
    Mr. Mime- add 60 hp
    Muk- add 20 hp and 25 def
    Murkrow- replace with honchcrow
    Noctowl- add 20 def 20 spd and 30 spe
    Octillery- add 25 hp def spd
    Persian- add 30 atk
    Pidgeot- add ability Speed Boast
    Pinsir- add ground subtyping, add No Guard
    Poliwrath- add mach punch and Aqua Jet
    Raichu- add 20 Hp
    Rapidash- add 10 spe and move extream speed
    Raticate- add 30 atk add 20 spa
    Rhydon- turn into rhyperior
    Seadra- upsize to kingdra
    Seaking- add 20 atk 20 spe, add move Aqua Jet, add move wild charge
    Shuckle- add recover
    Sneasel- upsize to weivile
    Sudowoodo- add grass subtype
    Sunflora- add 50 spe
    Steelix-Shellsmash add 20 spe
    Tauros- add flareblitz and wild charge
    Togetic- up to togekiss
    Ursaring- add 5 to all stats
    Unown- Unown, replace hiden power with metronome
    Vileplume- spore, ability posion heal
    Wigglytuff-Levitate, spe 20

    Nerf list-
    Blissey- lose 50 hp
    Dragonite- no multiscale
    Scizor- no stealth rock means many more fire types around
    Tyranitar- no sandstream
    Wobufet- no shadow tag

    Ban list (i cant nerf these guys, feels wrong)
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  3. RoomOfTrickery


    Mar 3, 2014
    Hi sir, I love your Idea, I have been trying to do this for a few month or so, and I would like to create a full list of changes to pokemon with you, and try to get it into showdown. My changes right now would include,
    -Celebi does not need to be banned, he's already not in ou, so he would need a buff if anything
    -Wobbuffet is good where he is at, and removing shadow tag would make him the trash he was when he didn't have an ability.
    -Unknown +62 base in all stats Added the moves: Signal Beam, Psyshock, Psychic, Shadow Ball, Hypnosis, Quiver Dance, Reflect, Light Screen, Safeguard.
    -Quiver Dance only boosts SpAtk, and Speed
    -Raticate has 25 more base atk, and 10 more base speed, gains extreme speed
    -Hypno is now Dark Psychic and gains the ability bad dreams, Gets an exclusive hypnosis that has 80 accuracy, gets recover, and nightmare, and has the 20 more hp you gave it.
    - FarFetch'd, adds 40 to attack and speed, gains the ability super luck+ which increases crit ratio by 2.
    -Mew does not need to be banned, he's already not in ou, so he would need a buff if anything
    -Blastoise- gains the ability drizzle, and megalauncher
    -Fearow adds 20 to both defences, add moves bravebird, megahorn, gains the ability arena trap.
    -Golem removes it being part rock (rock ground is just such bad typing)
    -Ryperior removes it being part rock (rock ground is just such bad typing)
    -Jumpluff should not get prankster, priority sleep is too good.
    - Kangaskhan, Gains parental bond, no power up punch or return.
    - Houndoom adds 7 speed and 10 SpAtk
    - Linoone Gains Adaptability, and 25 more speed
    - Azelf is Fairy
    - Uxie is Fairy
    - Mespirit is Fairy

    That's it for now, but I hope we can keep in touch, I want to make this a thing.
  4. Pikachuun

    Pikachuun better be a good mon
    is a Pre-Contributor

    Dec 27, 2012
    How did you even find this thread and then decide that it was a good idea to post in it even though there were no posts in it for over a year o_O
    ssjjynx, wishes, jrp and 3 others like this.
  5. RoomOfTrickery


    Mar 3, 2014
    I posted that I wanted to do something like this and the mods told me someone else was doing it, so I searched it up.
  6. AWailOfATail

    AWailOfATail viva la darmz
    is a Pre-Contributor

    Aug 20, 2013
    Well, they probably meant a pet mod/Project Balanced Metagame, not a year-old thread...

    simsims2800 Stealing your thunder, sorry...

    N-n-n-n-necrobump *beat drops*
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  7. simsims2800


    Mar 13, 2013

    I win.
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  8. SpaceCake


    Mar 1, 2014
    How would Poison heal Vileplume work?
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  9. Former Hope

    Former Hope The other side is waiting
    is a Battle Server Moderator

    Feb 4, 2014
    Very carefully.

    Anyhow, the major problem I see to this (besides sheer amount of coding for each mon available in this tier.) Would be the question of "What is balanced?" even with those mons some are going to end up stronger or being used more often. What are you going to do about that? Furthermore, in a way tier shift accomplishes achieving relative balance without a massive amount of coding.
  10. Aananth


    Nov 15, 2013
    So when did your project start and when are you planning to end? gl anyway
  11. Beta.

    Beta. Ruff Ruff amirite?

    Jan 29, 2013
    Showdown already has a balancing meta. It's named Gen-Next... so this thread should both be dead, and irrelevant. IMOTBH
  12. pick


    Sep 19, 2013
    Pidgeot- add ability Speed Boast

  13. HanakoToast


    Sep 1, 2013
    new meta
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