Scolipede does not make Baton Pass broken or anything -- it doesn't even... anything. Ninjask was perfectly fine in BW1 and in BW2. Ninjask might be Talonflame weak, but a flying-resist berry could patch that up (yes, you can't run Mental Herb this way, but the fact that Ninjask can run Mental Herb alone will be an intimidation factor in and of itself. Plus you could always just run Agility Zapdos, etc., etc.). If we're going to cap Baton Pass, BP + Speed Boost will fix nothing, especially since Agility is perfectly legitimate.
That said, Baton Pass is used, like, 1% of the time, and only 1% of that 1% actually use it well (aka like 0.0001% players use Baton Pass teams well, assuming I did that math right). Seriously. One user put it perfectly for me today:
baton pass is a gimmick. It isn't the metagame.
Why are we treating Baton Pass like it actually exists? There aren't many players that use it. DeoSharp and VenusaurStall, etc., etc., are much more commonly seen. Baton Pass isn't the metagame. There is no need to "do" anything about it. It's not broken. Hell, it isn't even used. (Not! Even! In! SPL!) Let's do something productive with our suspecting, please.
EDIT: I'm well aware that it's viable. Don't mice my words. Deniss has been using Baton Pass since BW1 and it hasn't been suspected that's not an argument. In BW2, Venomoth Pass got easy 1500s by some user, another user peaked page 1 with Cofag TR, just becaue it's used on the ladder well
doesn't mean shit. This suspect is still
not productive in the least. Also, one user used it in SPL. Count the teams with top tier threats and I guarantee you'll find 99.99% of every other team isn't BP, but I bet half of the teams used on SPL are similar to one another. Didn't
Lady Bug also use all NU mons or something? Does that mean we should ban NU mons --
"it proves their viable"? Stop with the bullshit please.
And now with the introduction of this thread there are so many BP chains so it now has basically transformed into the meta.
No, just no. It has not transformed the meta in the slightest what are you talking about.
And also, iirc, 3 out of the top 5 ladder players were using Baton Pass only a few weeks ago, so you can't say that it doesn't exist when top ladder players are battling it constantly.
I'm sorry, 3 out of 5 ladder players? I'm sure there are plenty of ladder players on PO / PS. Don't you mean, 3 ladder players out of 999999999999999999999999 ladder players? Do you mean 3 / 5 "good" ladder players, because I'm sure there are more than 5 good ladder players. (I'm sure you have a point somewhere, but it's not really clear right now . . .) Also, top players aren't using it "consistently" and no where near the level of things like DeoSharp and VenuStall stop overexaggurating. What happened was 3 other players besides Deniss decided to use Baton Pass for a little while and it's anti-meta so ofcourse it did well on the ladder.
(Also, I play on PO. I'm like 1600s there so I p. sure I know what "top ladder players" are using, thank you very much to the user who quotes me on the next page.)