After one turn, you will outspeed most pokes even with little investment, and an SD is really powerful with just all-out attack investment
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Blaziken
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Mixed is a better revenge killer, since it doesn't need any setup.
I suppose luring in and beating its usual counters if packing the right moves? It is a big problem when you expect a Blaziken to SD and it fires off a special move right away to catch you on the switch - somewhat like Mix/DDMence last gen I suppose.
o-O I'm surprised there's such a fuss about Speed Boost. When looking at the new info, I am actually more attracted to the concept of a Ken which uses a Typegem (combined with a STAB) and Acrobatics since the only types of Pokemon which resist Flying are weak to Fighting.
Still, I don't think this is nearly as bad as the bullet punching Scizors last gen, though the entire board has seen significant boosting to catch up with the likes of Scizor... So I'm not sure what to make of it
Still, I don't think this is nearly as bad as the bullet punching Scizors last gen, though the entire board has seen significant boosting to catch up with the likes of Scizor... So I'm not sure what to make of it
Zapados and Voltolos say no-no-nos
And Emolga, Rotom-S, and Rotom, for that matter. Plus it doesn't get STAB on Flying, and Flare Blitz hits really hard.
Thought I'd bring this discussion here.
What exactly are people running as far as nature / EVs / 3rd slot goes for Work Up MixKen? The possibilities are easily adaptable based on what you need to cover and what moves you run, but I assume its something like this:
Blaziken@Life Orb
Rash; 96 Atk / 196 SpA / 216 Spe
Work Up
Fire Blast
Hi Jump Kick
HP Ice / HP Electric / Stone Edge
Enough attack to OHKO Max/Max Bold variants of Blissey and Eviolite Chansey before a boost, and significant power otherwise. +1 HJK OHKOs Garchomp while +1 HP Ice OHKOs Latios (rocks).
+1 HP Electric OHKOs Slowbro with Stealth Rock, and 2HKOs Max/Min Bold Jellicent, so it's all up to preference. I'm assuming you could just as easily run a +Atk nature and use Stone Edge in the last slot, saving Fire Blast for physical walls like Hippowdon and Gliscor (something like Naughty 116 Atk / 176 SpA / 216 Spe OHKOs them both with Fire Blast at +1).
What exactly are people running as far as nature / EVs / 3rd slot goes for Work Up MixKen? The possibilities are easily adaptable based on what you need to cover and what moves you run, but I assume its something like this:
Blaziken@Life Orb
Rash; 96 Atk / 196 SpA / 216 Spe
Work Up
Fire Blast
Hi Jump Kick
HP Ice / HP Electric / Stone Edge
Enough attack to OHKO Max/Max Bold variants of Blissey and Eviolite Chansey before a boost, and significant power otherwise. +1 HJK OHKOs Garchomp while +1 HP Ice OHKOs Latios (rocks).
+1 HP Electric OHKOs Slowbro with Stealth Rock, and 2HKOs Max/Min Bold Jellicent, so it's all up to preference. I'm assuming you could just as easily run a +Atk nature and use Stone Edge in the last slot, saving Fire Blast for physical walls like Hippowdon and Gliscor (something like Naughty 116 Atk / 176 SpA / 216 Spe OHKOs them both with Fire Blast at +1).
For anyone who is explaining situations where you switch pokemon in, speed boost doesn't activate on the turn a pokemon is sent in.
Hopefully they'll add move tutors in the next Gen V game. TPunch would be a nice addition for guys he can't get a SE hit on right now.
how about a endure reversal set
