-
Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules.
-
Congrats to the winners of the 2023 Smog Awards!
Breeding In Emerald vs. Breeding In D/P
- Thread starter cornflake
- Start date
Well, I voted for D/P simply because I restarted my Emerald and haven't even finished the E4 yet (too lazy to level grind). So I'm fairly inconvenienced there. When I restarted my Emerald, I had no idea about the advantages of breeding there. At least I know better now. I breed a lot in D/P and I'm satisfied with it, but not having those move tutors hurts. I'm breeding my Gardy in Pearl, but I'm considering going with Emerald for Gallade simply because of the tutors.
Also, while I prefer the accuracy of IV battles, they're not the most convenient way. Especially when no one feels like doing an IV battle with you. At least Rare Candies are easy to use whenever you need them (I wouldn't call it much quicker though).
Also, while I prefer the accuracy of IV battles, they're not the most convenient way. Especially when no one feels like doing an IV battle with you. At least Rare Candies are easy to use whenever you need them (I wouldn't call it much quicker though).
Emerald. I have to actually sit up and pay attention to the screen in D/P when biking around, whereas in Emerald I can lie in bed (because the GBA is much smaller than the DS) and listen to the music to turn arond in Verdanturf and Route 118. The man stepping one step south is also less ambigious than the man turning directions.
EV training is mostly moot for me. I have so much money spread across all five games that I can use vitamins for 100 EVs, which entails just 38 battles afterwards with Macho Brace + Pokerus. (Enough EV training sessions in LeafGreen has yielded 80 nuggets, but I haven't used it since Attack training in Kindle Road brings me more than enough money.) I know that Power items and Pokerus is just 25 battles without any vitamin investment, but the speed of LG/Emerald is so fast that I don't even mind training that much.
Secondly, Emerald and Kanto have better designed areas for EV training. I was really pissed off on discovering that I had to bring a Cutter in to reach the Old Chateau, whereas the Pokemon Tower has no need for HMs, and has the healing square on the third floor so you don't need to fly out to Eterna after wasting away PP. Speed training in Victory Road requires Waterfall, Rock Climb, and Surf; Route 2 training in Kanto requires nothing. Attack training is better with wild Paras in Mt. Moon than it is to fish around for Seaking and Gyarados.
Also, due to repeated hax in the Frontier, I now have 700 BP but no future plans to breed anything with the punches. Maybe I'll start with Gallade to do something...yet another place where Emerald shines, due to rotating areas and 15BP per run instead of 20BP after three battles (if you start over again).
EV training is mostly moot for me. I have so much money spread across all five games that I can use vitamins for 100 EVs, which entails just 38 battles afterwards with Macho Brace + Pokerus. (Enough EV training sessions in LeafGreen has yielded 80 nuggets, but I haven't used it since Attack training in Kindle Road brings me more than enough money.) I know that Power items and Pokerus is just 25 battles without any vitamin investment, but the speed of LG/Emerald is so fast that I don't even mind training that much.
Secondly, Emerald and Kanto have better designed areas for EV training. I was really pissed off on discovering that I had to bring a Cutter in to reach the Old Chateau, whereas the Pokemon Tower has no need for HMs, and has the healing square on the third floor so you don't need to fly out to Eterna after wasting away PP. Speed training in Victory Road requires Waterfall, Rock Climb, and Surf; Route 2 training in Kanto requires nothing. Attack training is better with wild Paras in Mt. Moon than it is to fish around for Seaking and Gyarados.
Also, due to repeated hax in the Frontier, I now have 700 BP but no future plans to breed anything with the punches. Maybe I'll start with Gallade to do something...yet another place where Emerald shines, due to rotating areas and 15BP per run instead of 20BP after three battles (if you start over again).
If possible I breed in Emerald purely due to the easy cloning, although in D/P characteristics are great for determining at a glance if it's worth checking. While the IV guy is great, flying to and from BF is just a pain, and checking IVs in D/P is pretty quick anyway, and the eggs usually come faster in D/P due to all my Dittos being imported from Emerald. If the cloning glitch wasn't possible I'd pick D/P though, unless I needed tutor moves. Also, it gives more options for stuff to do when I'm breeding in D/P if I can't check IVs where I'm at, or simply bored of breeding, as I can jump on Emerald and go play around at the BF without disrupting anything.
I like Emerald the best for breeding, pretty much the same reasons for most people.
Easy cloning without needing the internet, easy IV check with the IV breeder, the Move Tutors, GBA is lighter then the DS (yes, this is important. >_>), level 5 eggs is better to see if something is good or not at first glance vs level 1 eggs and the fact that Emerald is faster then DP.
I don't like that some moves that do exist in Emerald can only be bred in DP like Dragon Dancing Totodile or Night Shade + Whirlwind on Hoothoot or stuff like that. Really pisses me off.
Easy cloning without needing the internet, easy IV check with the IV breeder, the Move Tutors, GBA is lighter then the DS (yes, this is important. >_>), level 5 eggs is better to see if something is good or not at first glance vs level 1 eggs and the fact that Emerald is faster then DP.
I don't like that some moves that do exist in Emerald can only be bred in DP like Dragon Dancing Totodile or Night Shade + Whirlwind on Hoothoot or stuff like that. Really pisses me off.
I definitely prefer Emerald for a few reasons. To me, since I don't have AR or Pokesav, Emerald is my only way to clone pokemon. It is also where i hoard all my dittos. When I hatch through SR method, the level five hatching is really beneficial for determining whether to take it to the iv man. Really, the ability to clone rare candies and the iv man makes emerald the best. Like Expert Evan, i also enjoy doing the memento base glitch.
Asides from those reasons, my DS doesn't work properly- the top LCD turns white if not at the correct orientation, making it a pain to breed. However, I do realize that Diamond is best for ev training- pokerus abundant on the GTS and the power items mean ev training takes only 20 minutes. I usually clone, then transfer to ev train.
Asides from those reasons, my DS doesn't work properly- the top LCD turns white if not at the correct orientation, making it a pain to breed. However, I do realize that Diamond is best for ev training- pokerus abundant on the GTS and the power items mean ev training takes only 20 minutes. I usually clone, then transfer to ev train.
emerald's just faster
What glitch is this, I've never heard of it!
Well, anyway, I didn't know how to breed in Emerald so I'll say D/P... yep. I had a Lax Salamence in Emerald lol
Search it on youtube. JadenYuki had one up I believe.
I'd say Diamond, because I can easily check the Egg's IVs (R4!), and have a fuckload of good parents (Wi-Fi forums are great), and because my Emerald doesn't have THAT much good parents.
However, I got a good number of Dittos with at least two flawless IVs, in just three days, and the Legendary Breeder+Level 5 babies really help in a game where you can't use any AR code.
So, I say it's Emerald. When you have the IV-checking code, Diamond/Pearl is much better, but when you want to go 101% "clean", Emerald kicks everyone's asses.
I just wanted to have Battle Points ._.
However, I got a good number of Dittos with at least two flawless IVs, in just three days, and the Legendary Breeder+Level 5 babies really help in a game where you can't use any AR code.
So, I say it's Emerald. When you have the IV-checking code, Diamond/Pearl is much better, but when you want to go 101% "clean", Emerald kicks everyone's asses.
I just wanted to have Battle Points ._.
Care to explain this glitch? :P I've never heard of this.
I like Emerald because you get the Mach bike for eggs. Plus, I usually migrate them to D/P for EV training with power items. This also gets bonus exp points for easier level-up.
Clarification: The memento base glitch is an extention of the egg battle glitch. If you go into a secret base, you can battle with an egg. It shows the pokemon inside (albeit with the wrong colors) at level 5, but more importantly it can gain levels through experience. Here's what to do, roughly:
1) Get a pokemon with more than 10 hp ev's, and over level 34. Empty your pack except for an egg.
2) Go into a battle with a pokemon that can poison- I use my Resttalk Regice against an oddish on route 119, but any other will work.
3) Once you are poisoned, run around until you have one hp left. Use a pomeg berry to decrease hp. The hp should be at 0, but the pokemon still poisoned.
4) Use an antidote/pecha berry. Go into a secret base with your friend. You will be able to battle them. Enter the battle-you will start with your pokemon. Switch to the egg.
The egg will gain experience and grow levels- even evolve when the other pokemon dies. Pokemon lvl. 100 with memento work best because they die quickly. Latios and Gardevoir give the most experience- latios gives more.
The objective is to raise 6 latios's to level 100, delete all moves except memento, and trade records with a friend.
This only works with emerald- if you try this with ruby or sapphire or do it incorrectly in emerald. Then the hp will turn into two ??, and when it engages into battle and receives damage, the hp loops from 65,536 or something like that. It's quite funny to watch. In emerald, you can hatch an evolved pokemon- i.e. a level 5 blazekin. It is the only way for pokemon like agiligross to be used in Lvl. 50 battle frontier play besides for hacking.
1) Get a pokemon with more than 10 hp ev's, and over level 34. Empty your pack except for an egg.
2) Go into a battle with a pokemon that can poison- I use my Resttalk Regice against an oddish on route 119, but any other will work.
3) Once you are poisoned, run around until you have one hp left. Use a pomeg berry to decrease hp. The hp should be at 0, but the pokemon still poisoned.
4) Use an antidote/pecha berry. Go into a secret base with your friend. You will be able to battle them. Enter the battle-you will start with your pokemon. Switch to the egg.
The egg will gain experience and grow levels- even evolve when the other pokemon dies. Pokemon lvl. 100 with memento work best because they die quickly. Latios and Gardevoir give the most experience- latios gives more.
The objective is to raise 6 latios's to level 100, delete all moves except memento, and trade records with a friend.
This only works with emerald- if you try this with ruby or sapphire or do it incorrectly in emerald. Then the hp will turn into two ??, and when it engages into battle and receives damage, the hp loops from 65,536 or something like that. It's quite funny to watch. In emerald, you can hatch an evolved pokemon- i.e. a level 5 blazekin. It is the only way for pokemon like agiligross to be used in Lvl. 50 battle frontier play besides for hacking.
