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Overview
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One of the things that sets Breloom apart from other physical attackers in the tier is its Hidden Ability, Technician,becauseand Breloom seems to have access to a movepool is seemingly designed just for takinge advantage of it. Its Bullet Seed is one of the strongest attacks in the game, being able to reach up to 187.5 BP,(AC) and its priority Mach Punch is insanely powerful when you take into account its base 130 Attack, STAB, and a Technician boost. It also has access to the move Spore to put an opposing Pokemon to sleep, effectively taking them out for what is usually most of the match.
However, despite the insane power that Breloom wields, it definitely has its drawbacks. It has common weaknesses to types such as Fire, Flying, and Ice, and its 60/80/60 defenses are mediocre at best. One of the moves that Breloom is known for, Spore, has been nerfed significantly, and nows Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat like Ferrothorn and Mandibuzz, respectively, can now switch in on it with impunity. The metagame around Breloom has also changed drastically, and now new threats like Mega Venusaur and Talonflame are able to resist its STAB attacks and threaten it. Finally, Breloom is extremely slow, and base 70 Speed is quite mediocre in the OU metagame. However, the pure power that Breloom possesses is not to be ignored, and if used in the right hands, it can definitely pack quite the punch for a Pokemon with such stubby arms.
Spore + 3 Attacks
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name: Spore + 3 Attacks
move 1: Spore
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Mach Punch
move 4: Rock Tomb
ability: Technician
item: Life Orb / Focus Sash
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Adamant
Moves
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This set aims to take advantage of Technician and utilize moves that will leave the opposing team extremely worn down. Spore is one of the moves that set Breloom apart from many other attackers, and it could potentially incapacitate a foe for most of the game. It can also be used on a predicted switch to ease prediction, unlessthe switch-in is a Grass-type or Pokemon withas Overcoat are still alive. Bullet Seed is Breloom's most powerful STAB attack after Technician, and is useful for breaking through Sturdy and Focus Sash. Mach Punch is a useful STAB priority move that is useful for hitting weakened or faster foes, and hits really hard after Technician as well. Finally, Rock Tomb is a very useful attack for slowing down anticipated switch-ins for Breloom to take down later, and can hit many common Breloom checks like Talonflame and Dragonite really hard.
Breloom can also use Force Palm over Rock Tomb as a reliable and more powerful secondary STAB attack if it needs to hit harder than it would with Mach Punch, and is useful for getting past defensive threats like Ferrothorn. However, the utility that Rock Tomb has is so useful that Breloom won't want to give it up.
Set Details
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The EVs of this set are maxed out in Attack and Speed to capitalize on Breloom's offensive presence, which is further bolsteredwithby a Life Orb. Adamant is highly recommended for maximum power, but if you need Breloom to outspeed JollyAdamant Mamoswine, you can use a Jolly nature to hit Mamoswineit with Mach Punch before it can use Ice Shard. Finally, a Focus Sash can be used on Breloom to guarantee a hit on an opposing Pokemon with Spore early-game.
Usage Tips
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This set is one that is mostly used either mid-game to break walls, or early-game to fire off a quick Spore and weaken things quickly. One thing that Breloom is very good at is punishing switches. When anticipating a switch, use Spore so that whatever is switching in is put to sleep and can't really do much. However, since Grass-types are immune to Spore, if you predict that one is going to switch in, try using Mach Punch or Rock Tomb. If something slightly faster than Breloom is switching in, it can use Rock Tomb to slow it down, hopefully to the point where Breloom can outspeed the opposing Pokemon and finish it off.
Team Options
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A Fire-type or a teammate with a Fire-type move is very useful to have to get rid of opposing Grass-types that are immune to Spore. Heatran is an excellent example of a Fire-type teammate,seeing thatas it resists Flying, as well as dual-resisting Ice and being immune to Poison. Because Mega Venusaur essentially counters Breloom, a counter to it, such as Latios, is recommended to get it out of the way. A Stealth Rock setter is also a great teammate to have, as it chips away at the opposing team's health, and also weakens Fire- and Flying-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame. Rock-types are also a great choice for directly damaging Fire- and Flying-types. Hippowdon is a bulky Ground-type that can easily take care of Aegislash and Talonflame. Finally, Excadrill is an alternate Ground-type that pairs up well with Breloom, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire and Ice, as well as being a great Rapid Spin user.
Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Protect
move 4: Spore
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
nature: Careful
Moves
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While the previous set was more offensively inclined, this set takes a more defensive approach towards using Breloom with its excellent defensive movepool and abilities. Leech Seed is the move this set is based upon, and it is great for chipping away at an opposing Pokemon's HP while giving Breloom passive recovery each turn. Drain Punch is Breloom's primary STAB attack, and provides additional recovery on top of Leech Seed recovery. Protect is a useful scouting move, and also allows Leech Seed damage to rack up on your opponent while Breloom heals. Finally, in the last moveslot, Spore is used to put a switch-in or opposing Pokemon to sleep. However, something to watch out for is that Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat are now immune to Spore, so that is something to watch out for.
Set Details
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For this set, Toxic Orb is the item of choice to take advantage of Poison Heal. The EVs are mostly invested in special bulk to allow Breloom to serve as an effective Thundurus or Keldeo check. 60 Speed EVs are run on this set to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, since Breloom can't OHKO it.
Usage Tips
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When anticipating a switch, it's usually safe to use Leech Seed, since Breloom will need all the recovery it can get. However, watch out especially for Grass-types, who are immune to Leech Seed and Spore and can switch in on those moves with impunity. Once Leech Seed is set up, Breloom can stall with Protect if it is not worried about about the opposing Pokemon setting up. Keep Leech Seed on your opponent as much as possible; the passive damage will quickly wear them down your opponent over time.
Team Options
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Because Grass-types are immune to Spore and Leech Seed, Fire-types like Heatran and Talonflame can be great teammates for taking them out. Also, Excadrill's typing lends itself to be an excellent teammate for Breloom as well, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire. Finally, hazard setters like Skarmory or Landorus-T will force anything coming in to take a chunk of damage, and is useful since Breloom will be forcing a lot of switches in order to shake off Leech Seed; Stealth Rock in particular is great for chipping away at Fire-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame.
Other Options
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First of all, Swords Dance or Bulk Up can be used to get Breloom to sweep, but it will either get walled easily if it runs Spore, or find it hard to set up without it. A SubPunch set with Toxic Orb and Poison Heal also finds itself walled very easily, with it only using a Grass STAB and an semi-reliable Fighting STAB. A Choice Band set can also be used for lots of power, but Breloom won't be able to access its amazing support movepool and will miss using Spore a lot. Breloom is also prone to being revenge killed due to being extremely slow. Finally, Thunder Punch is an option to allow Breloom to bypass threats like Gyarados and Skarmory.
Checks & Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types are threatening to both sets, as they resist Breloom's powerful Grass STAB attacks and are immune to Spore. Mega Venusaur stands out as one of Breloom's best counters, as its Poison typing allows it to resist both of Breloom's STABs and hit it hard with Sludge Bomb.
**Fire-types**: Some Fire-types will also find themselves being able to check Breloom. Talonflame is able to resist both of Breloom's STABs and fire off a x4 supereffective priority Brave Bird, but it must watch out for Rock Tomb. Without Rock Tomb, Volcarona will also be able to set up Quiver Dance right in front of Breloom.
**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Of course, since Breloom is mostly attacking using its excellent Attack stat, physicall defensive Pokemon are able to wall Breloom. Examples of effective defensive Pokemon to use to wall Breloom include Skarmory and Mega Venusaur, with the latterbeing already listed as a Grass-type threat with an additional Poison typingalso being immune to Spore.
**Dragon-types**: Dragon-types are notable for being able to resist Breloom's Grass STAB, and usually come with a second typing that will be able to resist its other STAB as well. Examples of this include Latias and Latios, whose Psychic typing help them resist Fighting. Dragon / Flying Pokemon like Dragonite and Noivern also resist Fighting, but they must watch out for Rock Tomb.
**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types are also good checks for being completely immune to Breloom's Fighting STAB, and many top-tier Ghost-types have an additional secondary typing that allows it to resist Grass as well. Gengar's Poison typing and Aegislash's Steel typing both allow them to accomplish this, and as such can be very threatening.
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One of the things that sets Breloom apart from other physical attackers in the tier is its Hidden Ability, Technician,
However, despite the insane power that Breloom wields, it definitely has its drawbacks. It has common weaknesses to types such as Fire, Flying, and Ice, and its 60/80/60 defenses are mediocre at best. One of the moves that Breloom is known for, Spore, has been nerfed significantly, a
Spore + 3 Attacks
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name: Spore + 3 Attacks
move 1: Spore
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Mach Punch
move 4: Rock Tomb
ability: Technician
item: Life Orb / Focus Sash
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Adamant
Moves
========
This set aims to take advantage of Technician and utilize moves that will leave the opposing team extremely worn down. Spore is one of the moves that set Breloom apart from many other attackers, and it could potentially incapacitate a foe for most of the game. It can also be used on a predicted switch to ease prediction, unless
Breloom can also use Force Palm over Rock Tomb as a reliable and more powerful secondary STAB attack if it needs to hit harder than it would with Mach Punch, and is useful for getting past defensive threats like Ferrothorn. However, the utility that Rock Tomb has is so useful that Breloom won't want to give it up.
Set Details
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The EVs of this set are maxed out in Attack and Speed to capitalize on Breloom's offensive presence, which is further bolstered
Usage Tips
========
This set is one that is mostly used either mid-game to break walls, or early-game to fire off a quick Spore and weaken things quickly. One thing that Breloom is very good at is punishing switches. When anticipating a switch, use Spore so that whatever is switching in is put to sleep and can't really do much. However, since Grass-types are immune to Spore, if you predict that one is going to switch in, try using Mach Punch or Rock Tomb. If something slightly faster than Breloom is switching in, it can use Rock Tomb to slow it down, hopefully to the point where Breloom can outspeed the opposing Pokemon and finish it off.
Team Options
========
A Fire-type or a teammate with a Fire-type move is very useful to have to get rid of opposing Grass-types that are immune to Spore. Heatran is an excellent example of a Fire-type teammate,
Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Protect
move 4: Spore
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
nature: Careful
Moves
========
While the previous set was more offensively inclined, this set takes a more defensive approach towards using Breloom with its excellent defensive movepool and abilities. Leech Seed is the move this set is based upon, and it is great for chipping away at an opposing Pokemon's HP while giving Breloom passive recovery each turn. Drain Punch is Breloom's primary STAB attack, and provides additional recovery on top of Leech Seed recovery. Protect is a useful scouting move, and also allows Leech Seed damage to rack up on your opponent while Breloom heals. Finally, in the last moveslot, Spore is used to put a switch-in or opposing Pokemon to sleep. However,
Set Details
========
For this set, Toxic Orb is the item of choice to take advantage of Poison Heal. The EVs are mostly invested in special bulk to allow Breloom to serve as an effective Thundurus or Keldeo check. 60 Speed EVs are run on this set to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, since Breloom can't OHKO it.
Usage Tips
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When anticipating a switch, it's usually safe to use Leech Seed, since Breloom will need all the recovery it can get. However, watch out especially for Grass-types, who are immune to Leech Seed and Spore and can switch in on those moves with impunity. Once Leech Seed is set up, Breloom can stall with Protect if it is not worried about about the opposing Pokemon setting up. Keep Leech Seed on your opponent as much as possible; the passive damage will quickly wear them down
Team Options
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Because Grass-types are immune to Spore and Leech Seed, Fire-types like Heatran and Talonflame can be great teammates for taking them out. Also, Excadrill's typing lends itself to be an excellent teammate for Breloom as well, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire. Finally, hazard setters like Skarmory or Landorus-T will force anything coming in to take a chunk of damage, and is useful since Breloom will be forcing a lot of switches in order to shake off Leech Seed; Stealth Rock in particular is great for chipping away at Fire-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame.
Other Options
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First of all, Swords Dance or Bulk Up can be used to get Breloom to sweep, but it will either get walled easily if it runs Spore, or find it hard to set up without it. A SubPunch set with Toxic Orb and Poison Heal also finds itself walled very easily, with it only using a Grass STAB and a
Checks & Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types are threatening to both sets, as they resist Breloom's powerful Grass STAB attacks and are immune to Spore. Mega Venusaur stands out as one of Breloom's best counters, as its Poison typing allows it to resist both of Breloom's STABs and hit it hard with Sludge Bomb.
**Fire-types**: Some Fire-types will also find themselves being able to check Breloom. Talonflame is able to resist both of Breloom's STABs and fire off a x4 supereffective priority Brave Bird, but it must watch out for Rock Tomb. Without Rock Tomb, Volcarona will also be able to set up Quiver Dance right in front of Breloom.
**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Of course, since Breloom is mostly attacking using its excellent Attack stat, physicall defensive Pokemon are able to wall Breloom. Examples of effective defensive Pokemon to use to wall Breloom include Skarmory and Mega Venusaur, with the latter
**Dragon-types**: Dragon-types are notable for being able to resist Breloom's Grass STAB, and usually come with a second typing that will be able to resist its other STAB as well. Examples of this include Latias and Latios, whose Psychic typing help them resist Fighting. Dragon / Flying Pokemon like Dragonite and Noivern also resist Fighting, but they must watch out for Rock Tomb.
**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types are also good checks for being completely immune to Breloom's Fighting STAB, and many top-tier Ghost-types have an additional secondary typing that allows it to resist Grass as well. Gengar's Poison typing and Aegislash's Steel typing both allow them to accomplish this, and as such can be very threatening.
Overview
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One of the things that sets Breloom apart from other physical attackers in the tier is its Hidden Ability, Technician, and Brelooms movepool is seemingly designed to take advantage of it. Its Bullet Seed is one of the strongest attacks in the game, being able to reach up to 187.5 BP, and its priority Mach Punch is insanely powerful when you take into account its base 130 Attack, STAB, and a Technician boost. It also has access to the move Spore to put an opposing Pokemon to sleep, effectively taking them out for what is usually most of the match.
However, despite the insane power that Breloom wields, it definitely has its drawbacks. It has common weaknesses to types such as Fire, Flying, and Ice, and its 60/80/60 defenses are mediocre at best. One of the moves that Breloom is known for, Spore, has been nerfed significantly, as Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat like Ferrothorn and Mandibuzz, respectively, can now switch in on it with impunity. The metagame around Breloom has also changed drastically, and now new threats like Mega Venusaur and Talonflame are able to resist its STAB attacks and threaten it. Finally, Breloom is extremely slow, and base 70 Speed is quite mediocre in the OU metagame. However, the pure power that Breloom possesses is not to be ignored, and if used in the right hands, it can definitely pack quite the punch for a Pokemon with such stubby arms.
Spore + 3 Attacks
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name: Spore + 3 Attacks
move 1: Spore
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Mach Punch
move 4: Rock Tomb
ability: Technician
item: Life Orb / Focus Sash
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Adamant
Moves
========
This set aims to take advantage of Technician and utilize moves that will leave the opposing team extremely worn down. Spore is one of the moves that set Breloom apart from many other attackers, and it could potentially incapacitate a foe for most of the game. It can also be used on a predicted switch to ease prediction, unless a Grass-type or Pokemon with Overcoat are still alive. Bullet Seed is Breloom's most powerful STAB attack after Technician, and is useful for breaking through Sturdy and Focus Sash. Mach Punch is a useful STAB priority move that is useful for hitting weakened or faster foes, and hits really hard after Technician as well. Finally, Rock Tomb is a very useful attack for slowing down anticipated switch-ins for Breloom to take down later, and can hit many common Breloom checks like Talonflame and Dragonite really hard.
Breloom can also use Force Palm over Rock Tomb as a reliable and more powerful secondary STAB attack if it needs to hit harder than it would with Mach Punch, and is useful for getting past defensive threats like Ferrothorn. However, the utility that Rock Tomb has is so useful that Breloom won't want to give it up.
Set Details
========
The EVs of this set are maxed out in Attack and Speed to capitalize on Breloom's offensive presence, which is further bolstered by a Life Orb. Adamant is highly recommended for maximum power, but if you need Breloom to outspeed Adamant Mamoswine, you can use a Jolly nature to hit it with Mach Punch before it can use Ice Shard. Finally, a Focus Sash can be used on Breloom to guarantee a hit on an opposing Pokemon with Spore early-game.
Usage Tips
========
This set is one that is mostly used either mid-game to break walls, or early-game to fire off a quick Spore and weaken things quickly. One thing that Breloom is very good at is punishing switches. When anticipating a switch, use Spore so that whatever is switching in is put to sleep and can't really do much. However, since Grass-types are immune to Spore, if you predict that one is going to switch in, try using Mach Punch or Rock Tomb. If something slightly faster than Breloom is switching in, it can use Rock Tomb to slow it down, hopefully to the point where Breloom can outspeed the opposing Pokemon and finish it off.
Team Options
========
A Fire-type or a teammate with a Fire-type move is very useful to have to get rid of opposing Grass-types that are immune to Spore. Heatran is an excellent example of a Fire-type teammate, as it resists Flying, as well as dual-resisting Ice and being immune to Poison. Because Mega Venusaur essentially counters Breloom, a counter to it, such as Latios, is recommended to get it out of the way. A Stealth Rock setter is also a great teammate to have, as it chips away at the opposing team's health, and also weakens Fire- and Flying-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame. Rock-types are also a great choice for directly damaging Fire- and Flying-types. Hippowdon is a bulky Ground-type that can easily take care of Aegislash and Talonflame. Finally, Excadrill is an alternate Ground-type that pairs up well with Breloom, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire and Ice, as well as being a great Rapid Spin user.
Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Protect
move 4: Spore
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
nature: Careful
Moves
========
While the previous set was more offensively inclined, this set takes a more defensive approach towards using Breloom with its excellent defensive movepool and abilities. Leech Seed is the move this set is based upon, and it is great for chipping away at an opposing Pokemon's HP while giving Breloom passive recovery each turn. Drain Punch is Breloom's primary STAB attack, and provides additional recovery on top of Leech Seed recovery. Protect is a useful scouting move, and also allows Leech Seed damage to rack up on your opponent while Breloom heals. Finally, in the last moveslot, Spore is used to put a switch-in or opposing Pokemon to sleep. However, Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat are now immune to Spore, so that is something to watch out for.
Set Details
========
For this set, Toxic Orb is the item of choice to take advantage of Poison Heal. The EVs are mostly invested in special bulk to allow Breloom to serve as an effective Thundurus or Keldeo check. 60 Speed EVs are run on this set to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, since Breloom can't OHKO it.
Usage Tips
========
When anticipating a switch, it's usually safe to use Leech Seed, since Breloom will need all the recovery it can get. However, watch out especially for Grass-types, who are immune to Leech Seed and Spore and can switch in on those moves with impunity. Once Leech Seed is set up, Breloom can stall with Protect if it is not worried about about the opposing Pokemon setting up. Keep Leech Seed on your opponent as much as possible; the passive damage will quickly wear them down over time.
Team Options
========
Because Grass-types are immune to Spore and Leech Seed, Fire-types like Heatran and Talonflame can be great teammates for taking them out. Also, Excadrill's typing lends itself to be an excellent teammate for Breloom as well, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire. Finally, hazard setters like Skarmory or Landorus-T will force anything coming in to take a chunk of damage, and is useful since Breloom will be forcing a lot of switches in order to shake off Leech Seed; Stealth Rock in particular is great for chipping away at Fire-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame.
Other Options
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First of all, Swords Dance or Bulk Up can be used to get Breloom to sweep, but it will either get walled easily if it runs Spore, or find it hard to set up without it. A SubPunch set with Toxic Orb and Poison Heal also finds itself walled very easily, with it only using a Grass STAB and a semi-reliable Fighting STAB. A Choice Band set can also be used for lots of power, but Breloom won't be able to access its amazing support movepool and will miss using Spore a lot. Breloom is also prone to being revenge killed due to being extremely slow. Finally, Thunder Punch is an option to allow Breloom to bypass threats like Gyarados and Skarmory.
Checks & Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types are threatening to both sets, as they resist Breloom's powerful Grass STAB attacks and are immune to Spore. Mega Venusaur stands out as one of Breloom's best counters, as its Poison typing allows it to resist both of Breloom's STABs and hit it hard with Sludge Bomb.
**Fire-types**: Some Fire-types will also find themselves being able to check Breloom. Talonflame is able to resist both of Breloom's STABs and fire off a x4 supereffective priority Brave Bird, but it must watch out for Rock Tomb. Without Rock Tomb, Volcarona will also be able to set up Quiver Dance right in front of Breloom.
**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Of course, since Breloom is mostly attacking using its excellent Attack stat, physicall defensive Pokemon are able to wall Breloom. Examples of effective defensive Pokemon to use to wall Breloom include Skarmory and Mega Venusaur, with the latter also being immune to Spore.
**Dragon-types**: Dragon-types are notable for being able to resist Breloom's Grass STAB, and usually come with a second typing that will be able to resist its other STAB as well. Examples of this include Latias and Latios, whose Psychic typing help them resist Fighting. Dragon / Flying Pokemon like Dragonite and Noivern also resist Fighting, but they must watch out for Rock Tomb.
**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types are also good checks for being completely immune to Breloom's Fighting STAB, and many top-tier Ghost-types have an additional secondary typing that allows it to resist Grass as well. Gengar's Poison typing and Aegislash's Steel typing both allow them to accomplish this, and as such can be very threatening.
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One of the things that sets Breloom apart from other physical attackers in the tier is its Hidden Ability, Technician, and Brelooms movepool is seemingly designed to take advantage of it. Its Bullet Seed is one of the strongest attacks in the game, being able to reach up to 187.5 BP, and its priority Mach Punch is insanely powerful when you take into account its base 130 Attack, STAB, and a Technician boost. It also has access to the move Spore to put an opposing Pokemon to sleep, effectively taking them out for what is usually most of the match.
However, despite the insane power that Breloom wields, it definitely has its drawbacks. It has common weaknesses to types such as Fire, Flying, and Ice, and its 60/80/60 defenses are mediocre at best. One of the moves that Breloom is known for, Spore, has been nerfed significantly, as Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat like Ferrothorn and Mandibuzz, respectively, can now switch in on it with impunity. The metagame around Breloom has also changed drastically, and now new threats like Mega Venusaur and Talonflame are able to resist its STAB attacks and threaten it. Finally, Breloom is extremely slow, and base 70 Speed is quite mediocre in the OU metagame. However, the pure power that Breloom possesses is not to be ignored, and if used in the right hands, it can definitely pack quite the punch for a Pokemon with such stubby arms.
Spore + 3 Attacks
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name: Spore + 3 Attacks
move 1: Spore
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Mach Punch
move 4: Rock Tomb
ability: Technician
item: Life Orb / Focus Sash
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Adamant
Moves
========
This set aims to take advantage of Technician and utilize moves that will leave the opposing team extremely worn down. Spore is one of the moves that set Breloom apart from many other attackers, and it could potentially incapacitate a foe for most of the game. It can also be used on a predicted switch to ease prediction, unless a Grass-type or Pokemon with Overcoat are still alive. Bullet Seed is Breloom's most powerful STAB attack after Technician, and is useful for breaking through Sturdy and Focus Sash. Mach Punch is a useful STAB priority move that is useful for hitting weakened or faster foes, and hits really hard after Technician as well. Finally, Rock Tomb is a very useful attack for slowing down anticipated switch-ins for Breloom to take down later, and can hit many common Breloom checks like Talonflame and Dragonite really hard.
Breloom can also use Force Palm over Rock Tomb as a reliable and more powerful secondary STAB attack if it needs to hit harder than it would with Mach Punch, and is useful for getting past defensive threats like Ferrothorn. However, the utility that Rock Tomb has is so useful that Breloom won't want to give it up.
Set Details
========
The EVs of this set are maxed out in Attack and Speed to capitalize on Breloom's offensive presence, which is further bolstered by a Life Orb. Adamant is highly recommended for maximum power, but if you need Breloom to outspeed Adamant Mamoswine, you can use a Jolly nature to hit it with Mach Punch before it can use Ice Shard. Finally, a Focus Sash can be used on Breloom to guarantee a hit on an opposing Pokemon with Spore early-game.
Usage Tips
========
This set is one that is mostly used either mid-game to break walls, or early-game to fire off a quick Spore and weaken things quickly. One thing that Breloom is very good at is punishing switches. When anticipating a switch, use Spore so that whatever is switching in is put to sleep and can't really do much. However, since Grass-types are immune to Spore, if you predict that one is going to switch in, try using Mach Punch or Rock Tomb. If something slightly faster than Breloom is switching in, it can use Rock Tomb to slow it down, hopefully to the point where Breloom can outspeed the opposing Pokemon and finish it off.
Team Options
========
A Fire-type or a teammate with a Fire-type move is very useful to have to get rid of opposing Grass-types that are immune to Spore. Heatran is an excellent example of a Fire-type teammate, as it resists Flying, as well as dual-resisting Ice and being immune to Poison. Because Mega Venusaur essentially counters Breloom, a counter to it, such as Latios, is recommended to get it out of the way. A Stealth Rock setter is also a great teammate to have, as it chips away at the opposing team's health, and also weakens Fire- and Flying-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame. Rock-types are also a great choice for directly damaging Fire- and Flying-types. Hippowdon is a bulky Ground-type that can easily take care of Aegislash and Talonflame. Finally, Excadrill is an alternate Ground-type that pairs up well with Breloom, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire and Ice, as well as being a great Rapid Spin user.
Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Protect
move 4: Spore
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
nature: Careful
Moves
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While the previous set was more offensively inclined, this set takes a more defensive approach towards using Breloom with its excellent defensive movepool and abilities. Leech Seed is the move this set is based upon, and it is great for chipping away at an opposing Pokemon's HP while giving Breloom passive recovery each turn. Drain Punch is Breloom's primary STAB attack, and provides additional recovery on top of Leech Seed recovery. Protect is a useful scouting move, and also allows Leech Seed damage to rack up on your opponent while Breloom heals. Finally, in the last moveslot, Spore is used to put a switch-in or opposing Pokemon to sleep. However, Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat are now immune to Spore, so that is something to watch out for.
Set Details
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For this set, Toxic Orb is the item of choice to take advantage of Poison Heal. The EVs are mostly invested in special bulk to allow Breloom to serve as an effective Thundurus or Keldeo check. 60 Speed EVs are run on this set to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, since Breloom can't OHKO it.
Usage Tips
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When anticipating a switch, it's usually safe to use Leech Seed, since Breloom will need all the recovery it can get. However, watch out especially for Grass-types, who are immune to Leech Seed and Spore and can switch in on those moves with impunity. Once Leech Seed is set up, Breloom can stall with Protect if it is not worried about about the opposing Pokemon setting up. Keep Leech Seed on your opponent as much as possible; the passive damage will quickly wear them down over time.
Team Options
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Because Grass-types are immune to Spore and Leech Seed, Fire-types like Heatran and Talonflame can be great teammates for taking them out. Also, Excadrill's typing lends itself to be an excellent teammate for Breloom as well, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire. Finally, hazard setters like Skarmory or Landorus-T will force anything coming in to take a chunk of damage, and is useful since Breloom will be forcing a lot of switches in order to shake off Leech Seed; Stealth Rock in particular is great for chipping away at Fire-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame.
Other Options
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First of all, Swords Dance or Bulk Up can be used to get Breloom to sweep, but it will either get walled easily if it runs Spore, or find it hard to set up without it. A SubPunch set with Toxic Orb and Poison Heal also finds itself walled very easily, with it only using a Grass STAB and a semi-reliable Fighting STAB. A Choice Band set can also be used for lots of power, but Breloom won't be able to access its amazing support movepool and will miss using Spore a lot. Breloom is also prone to being revenge killed due to being extremely slow. Finally, Thunder Punch is an option to allow Breloom to bypass threats like Gyarados and Skarmory.
Checks & Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types are threatening to both sets, as they resist Breloom's powerful Grass STAB attacks and are immune to Spore. Mega Venusaur stands out as one of Breloom's best counters, as its Poison typing allows it to resist both of Breloom's STABs and hit it hard with Sludge Bomb.
**Fire-types**: Some Fire-types will also find themselves being able to check Breloom. Talonflame is able to resist both of Breloom's STABs and fire off a x4 supereffective priority Brave Bird, but it must watch out for Rock Tomb. Without Rock Tomb, Volcarona will also be able to set up Quiver Dance right in front of Breloom.
**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Of course, since Breloom is mostly attacking using its excellent Attack stat, physicall defensive Pokemon are able to wall Breloom. Examples of effective defensive Pokemon to use to wall Breloom include Skarmory and Mega Venusaur, with the latter also being immune to Spore.
**Dragon-types**: Dragon-types are notable for being able to resist Breloom's Grass STAB, and usually come with a second typing that will be able to resist its other STAB as well. Examples of this include Latias and Latios, whose Psychic typing help them resist Fighting. Dragon / Flying Pokemon like Dragonite and Noivern also resist Fighting, but they must watch out for Rock Tomb.
**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types are also good checks for being completely immune to Breloom's Fighting STAB, and many top-tier Ghost-types have an additional secondary typing that allows it to resist Grass as well. Gengar's Poison typing and Aegislash's Steel typing both allow them to accomplish this, and as such can be very threatening.
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Overview
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One of the things that sets Breloom apart from other physical attackers in the tier is its Hidden Ability, Technician, and Breloom's movepool is seemingly designed to take advantage of it. Its Bullet Seed is one of the strongest attacks in the game, being able to reach up to 187.5 BP, and its priority Mach Punch is insanely powerful when you take into account its base 130 Attack, STAB, and a Technician boost. It also has access to the move Spore to can also put an opposing Pokemon to sleep with Spore, effectively taking them out for what is usually most of the match.
However, despite the insane power that Breloom wields, it definitely has its drawbacks. It has common weaknesses to types such as Fire, Flying, and Ice, and its 60/80/60 defenses are mediocre at best. One of the moves that Breloom is known for, Spore, has been nerfed significantly, as Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat, (add comma) such as Ferrothorn and Mandibuzz, respectively, can now switch in on it with impunity. The metagame around Breloom has also changed drastically, and now new threats like Mega Venusaur and Talonflame are able to resist its STAB attacks and threaten it. Finally, Breloom is extremely slow, and base 70 Speed is quite mediocre in the OU metagame. However, the pure power that Breloom possesses is not to be ignored, and if used in the right hands, it can definitely pack quite the punch for a Pokemon with such stubby arms.
Spore + 3 Attacks
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name: Spore + 3 Attacks
move 1: Spore
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Mach Punch
move 4: Rock Tomb
ability: Technician
item: Focus Sash / Life Orb
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Adamant / Jolly
Moves
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This set aims to take advantage of Technician and utilize moves that will leave the opposing team extremely worn down. Spore is one of the moves that set Breloom apart from many other attackers, and it could potentially incapacitate a foe for most of the game. It can also be used on a predicted switch to ease prediction, unless a Grass-type or Pokemon with Overcoat are still alive. Bullet Seed is Breloom's most powerful STAB attack after Technician, (remove comma) and is useful for breaking through Sturdy and Focus Sash. Mach Punch is a useful STAB priority move that is useful for hitting weakened or faster foes, and hits really hard after Technician as well. Finally, Rock Tomb is a very useful attack for slowing down anticipated switch-ins for Breloom to take down later; (add semi-colon) and it can hit many common Breloom checks like such as Talonflame and Dragonite really hard.
Breloom can also use Force Palm over Rock Tomb as a reliable and more powerful secondary STAB attack if it needs to hit harder than it would with Mach Punch, and this is useful for getting past defensive threats like Ferrothorn. However, the utility that Rock Tomb has is so useful Rock Tomb's utility is something that Breloom won't want to give it up.
Set Details
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The EVs of this set are maxed out in Attack and Speed to capitalize on Breloom's offensive presence, which is further bolstered by a Life Orb if you choose to run it. Adamant is recommended for maximum power, though Jolly is great for outspeeding major threats like Dragonite or Gyarados. Finally, a Focus Sash is recommended for Breloom to guarantee a hit on an opposing Pokemon with Spore or an attack, though a Life Orb can be used for a bit of extra power.
Usage Tips
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This set is one that is mostly used either mid-game to break walls, (remove comma) or early-game to fire off a quick Spore and weaken things quickly. One thing that Breloom is very good at is punishing switches. When anticipating a switch, use Spore so that whatever is switching in is put to sleep and can't really do much. However, since Grass-types are immune to Spore, if you predict that one is going to switch in, try using Mach Punch or Rock Tomb. If something slightly faster than Breloom is switching in, it can use Rock Tomb to slow it down, hopefully to the point where Breloom can outspeed the opposing Pokemon and finish it off.
Team Options
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A Fire-type or a teammate with a Fire-type move is very useful to have to get rid of opposing Grass-types that are immune to Spore. Heatran is an excellent example of a Fire-type teammate, as it resists Flying, as well as dual-resisting Ice and being immune to Poison. Because Mega Venusaur essentially counters Breloom, a counter to it, such as Latios, is recommended to get it out of the way. A Stealth Rock setter is also a great teammate to have, as it chips away at the opposing team's health, (remove comma) and also weakens Fire- and Flying-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame. Rock-types are also a great choice for directly damaging Fire- and Flying-types. Hippowdon is a bulky Ground-type that can easily take care of Aegislash and Talonflame. Finally, Excadrill is an alternative Ground-type that pairs up well with Breloom, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire and Ice, as well as being a great Rapid Spin user.
Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Protect
move 4: Spore
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
nature: Careful
Moves
========
While the previous set was more offensively inclined, this set takes a more defensive approach towards using Breloom with its excellent defensive movepool and abilities. Leech Seed is the move this set is based upon, and it is great for chipping away at an opposing Pokemon's HP while giving Breloom passive recovery each turn. Drain Punch is Breloom's primary STAB attack, and it provides additional recovery on top of Leech Seed recovery. Protect is a useful scouting move, and it also allows Leech Seed damage to rack up on your opponent while Breloom heals. Finally, in the last moveslot, Spore is used to put a switch-in or opposing Pokemon to sleep. However, Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat are now immune to Spore, so that is something to watch out for.
Set Details
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For this set, Toxic Orb is the item of choice to take advantage of Poison Heal. The EVs are mostly invested in special bulk to allow Breloom to serve as an effective Thundurus or Keldeo check. 60 Speed EVs are run on this set to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, since Breloom can't OHKO it.
Usage Tips
========
When anticipating a switch, it's usually safe to use Leech Seed, since Breloom will need all the recovery it can get. However, watch out especially for Grass-types, which are immune to Leech Seed and Spore and can switch in on those moves with impunity. Once Leech Seed is set up, Breloom can stall with Protect if it is not worried about about the opposing Pokemon setting up. Keep Leech Seed on your opponent as much as possible; the passive damage will quickly wear them down over time.
Team Options
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Because Grass-types are immune to Spore and Leech Seed, Fire-types like Heatran and Talonflame can be great teammates for taking them out. Also, Excadrill's typing lends itself to be an excellent teammate for Breloom as well, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire. Finally, hazard setters like Skarmory or Landorus-T will force anything coming in to take a chunk of damage, and this is useful since Breloom will be forcing a lot of switches in order to shake off Leech Seed; Stealth Rock in particular is great for chipping away at Fire-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame.
Other Options
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First of all, Swords Dance or Bulk Up can be used to get Breloom to sweep, but it will either get walled easily if it runs Spore, or find it hard to set up without it. A SubPunch set with Toxic Orb and Poison Heal also finds itself walled very easily, with it only using a Grass STAB and a semi-reliable Fighting STAB. A Choice Band set can also be used for lots of power, but Breloom won't be able to access its amazing support movepool and will miss using Spore a lot. Breloom is also prone to being revenge killed due to being extremely slow. Finally, Thunder Punch is an option to allow Breloom to bypass threats like Gyarados and Skarmory.
Checks & Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types are threatening to both sets, as they resist Breloom's powerful Grass STAB attacks and are immune to Spore. Mega Venusaur stands out as one of Breloom's best counters, as its Poison typing allows it to resist both of Breloom's STABs and hit it hard with Sludge Bomb.
**Fire-types**: Some Fire-types will also find themselves being able to check Breloom. Talonflame is able to resist both of Breloom's STABs and fire off a x4 supereffective priority Brave Bird, but it must watch out for Rock Tomb. Without Rock Tomb, Volcarona will also be able to set up Quiver Dance right in front of Breloom.
**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Of course, since Breloom is mostly attacking using its excellent Attack stat, physically defensive Pokemon are able to wall Breloom. Examples of effective defensive Pokemon to use to wall Breloom include Skarmory and Mega Venusaur, with the latter also being immune to Spore.
**Dragon-types**: Dragon-types are notable for being able to resist Breloom's Grass STAB, and they also usually come with a second typing that will be able to resists its other STAB as well. Examples of this include Latias and Latios, whose Psychic typing help them resist Fighting. Dragon / Flying Pokemon like Dragonite and Noivern also resist Fighting, but they must watch out for Rock Tomb.
**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types are also good checks for being completely immune to Breloom's Fighting STAB, and many top-tier Ghost-types have an additional secondary typing that allows it them to resist Grass as well. Gengar's Poison typing and Aegislash's Steel typing both allow them to accomplish this, and as such they can be very threatening.
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One of the things that sets Breloom apart from other physical attackers in the tier is its Hidden Ability, Technician, and Breloom's movepool is seemingly designed to take advantage of it. Its Bullet Seed is one of the strongest attacks in the game, being able to reach up to 187.5 BP, and its priority Mach Punch is insanely powerful when you take into account its base 130 Attack, STAB, and a Technician boost. It also has access to the move Spore to can also put an opposing Pokemon to sleep with Spore, effectively taking them out for what is usually most of the match.
However, despite the insane power that Breloom wields, it definitely has its drawbacks. It has common weaknesses to types such as Fire, Flying, and Ice, and its 60/80/60 defenses are mediocre at best. One of the moves that Breloom is known for, Spore, has been nerfed significantly, as Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat, (add comma) such as Ferrothorn and Mandibuzz, respectively, can now switch in on it with impunity. The metagame around Breloom has also changed drastically, and now new threats like Mega Venusaur and Talonflame are able to resist its STAB attacks and threaten it. Finally, Breloom is extremely slow, and base 70 Speed is quite mediocre in the OU metagame. However, the pure power that Breloom possesses is not to be ignored, and if used in the right hands, it can definitely pack quite the punch for a Pokemon with such stubby arms.
Spore + 3 Attacks
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name: Spore + 3 Attacks
move 1: Spore
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Mach Punch
move 4: Rock Tomb
ability: Technician
item: Focus Sash / Life Orb
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
nature: Adamant / Jolly
Moves
========
This set aims to take advantage of Technician and utilize moves that will leave the opposing team extremely worn down. Spore is one of the moves that set Breloom apart from many other attackers, and it could potentially incapacitate a foe for most of the game. It can also be used on a predicted switch to ease prediction, unless a Grass-type or Pokemon with Overcoat are still alive. Bullet Seed is Breloom's most powerful STAB attack after Technician, (remove comma) and is useful for breaking through Sturdy and Focus Sash. Mach Punch is a useful STAB priority move that is useful for hitting weakened or faster foes, and hits really hard after Technician as well. Finally, Rock Tomb is a very useful attack for slowing down anticipated switch-ins for Breloom to take down later; (add semi-colon) and it can hit many common Breloom checks like such as Talonflame and Dragonite really hard.
Breloom can also use Force Palm over Rock Tomb as a reliable and more powerful secondary STAB attack if it needs to hit harder than it would with Mach Punch, and this is useful for getting past defensive threats like Ferrothorn. However, the utility that Rock Tomb has is so useful Rock Tomb's utility is something that Breloom won't want to give it up.
Set Details
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The EVs of this set are maxed out in Attack and Speed to capitalize on Breloom's offensive presence, which is further bolstered by a Life Orb if you choose to run it. Adamant is recommended for maximum power, though Jolly is great for outspeeding major threats like Dragonite or Gyarados. Finally, a Focus Sash is recommended for Breloom to guarantee a hit on an opposing Pokemon with Spore or an attack, though a Life Orb can be used for a bit of extra power.
Usage Tips
========
This set is one that is mostly used either mid-game to break walls, (remove comma) or early-game to fire off a quick Spore and weaken things quickly. One thing that Breloom is very good at is punishing switches. When anticipating a switch, use Spore so that whatever is switching in is put to sleep and can't really do much. However, since Grass-types are immune to Spore, if you predict that one is going to switch in, try using Mach Punch or Rock Tomb. If something slightly faster than Breloom is switching in, it can use Rock Tomb to slow it down, hopefully to the point where Breloom can outspeed the opposing Pokemon and finish it off.
Team Options
========
A Fire-type or a teammate with a Fire-type move is very useful to have to get rid of opposing Grass-types that are immune to Spore. Heatran is an excellent example of a Fire-type teammate, as it resists Flying, as well as dual-resisting Ice and being immune to Poison. Because Mega Venusaur essentially counters Breloom, a counter to it, such as Latios, is recommended to get it out of the way. A Stealth Rock setter is also a great teammate to have, as it chips away at the opposing team's health, (remove comma) and also weakens Fire- and Flying-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame. Rock-types are also a great choice for directly damaging Fire- and Flying-types. Hippowdon is a bulky Ground-type that can easily take care of Aegislash and Talonflame. Finally, Excadrill is an alternative Ground-type that pairs up well with Breloom, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire and Ice, as well as being a great Rapid Spin user.
Leech Seed
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name: Leech Seed
move 1: Leech Seed
move 2: Drain Punch
move 3: Protect
move 4: Spore
ability: Poison Heal
item: Toxic Orb
evs: 252 HP / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
nature: Careful
Moves
========
While the previous set was more offensively inclined, this set takes a more defensive approach towards using Breloom with its excellent defensive movepool and abilities. Leech Seed is the move this set is based upon, and it is great for chipping away at an opposing Pokemon's HP while giving Breloom passive recovery each turn. Drain Punch is Breloom's primary STAB attack, and it provides additional recovery on top of Leech Seed recovery. Protect is a useful scouting move, and it also allows Leech Seed damage to rack up on your opponent while Breloom heals. Finally, in the last moveslot, Spore is used to put a switch-in or opposing Pokemon to sleep. However, Grass-types and Pokemon with Overcoat are now immune to Spore, so that is something to watch out for.
Set Details
========
For this set, Toxic Orb is the item of choice to take advantage of Poison Heal. The EVs are mostly invested in special bulk to allow Breloom to serve as an effective Thundurus or Keldeo check. 60 Speed EVs are run on this set to outspeed minimum Speed Heatran, since Breloom can't OHKO it.
Usage Tips
========
When anticipating a switch, it's usually safe to use Leech Seed, since Breloom will need all the recovery it can get. However, watch out especially for Grass-types, which are immune to Leech Seed and Spore and can switch in on those moves with impunity. Once Leech Seed is set up, Breloom can stall with Protect if it is not worried about about the opposing Pokemon setting up. Keep Leech Seed on your opponent as much as possible; the passive damage will quickly wear them down over time.
Team Options
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Because Grass-types are immune to Spore and Leech Seed, Fire-types like Heatran and Talonflame can be great teammates for taking them out. Also, Excadrill's typing lends itself to be an excellent teammate for Breloom as well, as it is immune to Poison and resists all of Breloom's weaknesses bar Fire. Finally, hazard setters like Skarmory or Landorus-T will force anything coming in to take a chunk of damage, and this is useful since Breloom will be forcing a lot of switches in order to shake off Leech Seed; Stealth Rock in particular is great for chipping away at Fire-types, especially the omnipresent Talonflame.
Other Options
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First of all, Swords Dance or Bulk Up can be used to get Breloom to sweep, but it will either get walled easily if it runs Spore, or find it hard to set up without it. A SubPunch set with Toxic Orb and Poison Heal also finds itself walled very easily, with it only using a Grass STAB and a semi-reliable Fighting STAB. A Choice Band set can also be used for lots of power, but Breloom won't be able to access its amazing support movepool and will miss using Spore a lot. Breloom is also prone to being revenge killed due to being extremely slow. Finally, Thunder Punch is an option to allow Breloom to bypass threats like Gyarados and Skarmory.
Checks & Counters
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**Grass-types**: Grass-types are threatening to both sets, as they resist Breloom's powerful Grass STAB attacks and are immune to Spore. Mega Venusaur stands out as one of Breloom's best counters, as its Poison typing allows it to resist both of Breloom's STABs and hit it hard with Sludge Bomb.
**Fire-types**: Some Fire-types will also find themselves being able to check Breloom. Talonflame is able to resist both of Breloom's STABs and fire off a x4 supereffective priority Brave Bird, but it must watch out for Rock Tomb. Without Rock Tomb, Volcarona will also be able to set up Quiver Dance right in front of Breloom.
**Physically Defensive Pokemon**: Of course, since Breloom is mostly attacking using its excellent Attack stat, physically defensive Pokemon are able to wall Breloom. Examples of effective defensive Pokemon to use to wall Breloom include Skarmory and Mega Venusaur, with the latter also being immune to Spore.
**Dragon-types**: Dragon-types are notable for being able to resist Breloom's Grass STAB, and they also usually come with a second typing that will be able to resists its other STAB as well. Examples of this include Latias and Latios, whose Psychic typing help them resist Fighting. Dragon / Flying Pokemon like Dragonite and Noivern also resist Fighting, but they must watch out for Rock Tomb.
**Ghost-types**: Ghost-types are also good checks for being completely immune to Breloom's Fighting STAB, and many top-tier Ghost-types have an additional secondary typing that allows it them to resist Grass as well. Gengar's Poison typing and Aegislash's Steel typing both allow them to accomplish this, and as such they can be very threatening.
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This may be a Speed-Creep kind of issue, but for the Leech Seed set 60 Speed is used to outrun minimum Speed Heatran. Heatran's analysis was recently changed to have 40 Speed (or enough to get it to 200) and outspeed maximum Speed Mega Mawile. Because of minimum Speed no longer being the "standard" Heatran to worry about, and because investing 100 Speed to outrun this now standard Heatran is Speed Creeping, should those points just be plopped into SpD now, with just a mention of those 60 Speed to outrun minimum Speed Heatran? If the Speed isn't being really used to outrun that threat, it seems just like wasted EVs Breloom could desperately use to tank special hits better, like random HP Ices.
Food for thought.
Food for thought.
Sorry for the reply once your done but Noivern has been rejected and should probably be replaced with Mence.
And I can't believe there's no mention of Gourgeist-S in C+C. Sure if its poison heal they stalemate each other but if its offensive it can outspeed and burn it be immune to Spore and Mach punch, resists bullet seed and has bulk to take on Rock Tomb
And I can't believe there's no mention of Gourgeist-S in C+C. Sure if its poison heal they stalemate each other but if its offensive it can outspeed and burn it be immune to Spore and Mach punch, resists bullet seed and has bulk to take on Rock Tomb