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I had a similar-ish concept to Harle actually, in that my design in based off a boat related to the dead. My concept is based from a viking funeral, if aren't familiar with these then basically the vikings put their dead in a boat, set if on fire and pushed it out to sea.

EDIT: Working process shown in links below.

Original Sketch - {X}
Beefed up the concept a bit - {X}
More Solid Lineart - (X)
First colour scheme - {X}

Final concept:


So this is my first attept at a colour scheme, I liked the idea of that when you see this pokemon, it does genuinely look like a flaming viking boat and not an animal so I gave it a sort of sea-greeney/blue skin colour, as a type of camouflage. The boat is obviously brown, but I was thinking of turning it to a more reddish brown to suit the fire theme... Same goes for the crest on the front, don't really know what colour to have that yet.

The fire would be added in later (hate drawing fire) into the 'hold' of the boat. I tried putting a sail in, and it looked fucking stupid so I decided to go with sail fins instead. Still got some playing around to do with the head and chest area, ,maybe some different flippers too - I wanted them to look kinda oar-like.

I feel like this is quite a versatile design I can work with, the one now looks quite bulky but I could obviously change it into a sleeker ship if the stats lean towards a faster pokemon.
 
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A Very Rough Draft I did today, didn't have much time:

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http://i.imgur.com/X6pu5wd.jpg

New one:
http://imgur.com/6PDQboN

(They're too big, so I put the links. I'll try to have them directly in the post soon)


I liked the head, so I used it for both

The first is based on a Crocodile, an animal which lives in tropics in Africa, Asia, Australia and America. They live in somewhat hot water, so that's where the idea came from. (I actually got the idea for the head by looking through a frozen window this morning) I put some fire on the tail, and maybe the tongue and head could be on fire too. I also put some (what would you call it, vents?) on the body, to make like it was filled with boiling water.

The second one is based off the Salamander, a small lizard that lived in the Middle Jurassic era. In mythology, they are said to spit out fire. Again, the tail is on fire and I put some fins on it for the "water" type thing, so it's kinda mixed with a fish.

EDIT: Added the loch ness with a volcano on its back one. It's really terrible, I'll make some color scheme when I have my Touch Tablet with me.

Again, this is a really rough draft, so any criticism is greatly appreciated :)

EDIT2: Thanks a lot Quanyails for the feedback, I'll probably stick with the salamander thing and maybe do a couple other drafts to see what I can do
 
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ok this is just a concept, not a final design. i still need to work on more fire type shit, and make it more detailed, which i will do later.

behold, my fucking fire fighting manatee
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This thing is based on various sea slugs, attached with thermal vents.
It was referenced from this: http://puu.sh/7JzAA.png, which is why it has that blank stare :D

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This isn't a final design! I'm still happy to listen to suggestions!

The typing of Fire/Water was really hard to think of a design for, and I planned to avoid fish-like creatures. So, I tried something I saw no one attempted yet. A sea slug.
Also, Slugma, a Fire type, and Shellos, a Water type, were both based on slugs, so I thought making a Fire/Water type slug wasn't going to be as awkward as it sounds @w@;

The things on its back are thermal tube vents, to which the design is more like a walking mass of thermal tubes. I'm not really a fan of pokemon whose design is based on a conceptualized object, rather than a theme, so I threw in the sluggy part so it is more akin to an animal.
 
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(Edit: The original being referred to in the beggining of this post can be found here.)

What I have so far. This design in particular, is based off of the Mantis Shrimp, seeing as it's main means of attacking (IRL) is through a usage of bubbles which tend to produce temperatures ranging in thousands of Kelvins. For this reason, I think this would make a pretty fitting design for a Fire/Water type.

This is by no means a final submission, as it still needs a lot of work, however I would like to share this concept, in hopes of possible feedback from what it is, as of now.

Also, teapot-elephant master race.

Edit- 3/31:

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Ladies and gentlemen, Mantis Shrimp 2.0. Finally was able to get this is full quality, and other than touch-ups and supporting material, this is probably the last leg of this design. Once again, (I know I keep saying this, and I know almost nobody responds, but still) any feedback or criticisms are more than welcome. Final Submission/Touch-Ups/Supporting Material to be posted shortly.
 
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I felt like there weren't enough silly designs so I made this:
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It's a fish that's supposed to be cooking in a boiling pot, but instead has bonded with it and is using it for protection. I know it's not especially clever, so I'll probably need some feedback to decide whether or not to stick to this concept. Incidentally, I also made a design based on the fire salamander, but considering how many volcanic animal designs there are already, I decided to submit this one first and see how it's received.
 
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>end lurking
While I like CAP as a whole, I've never paid as much attention to any of the sections as much as the art ones >_>
Fire/Water is a cool typing that I'm disappointed hasn't shown up in the actual games until the sixth gen, but I'm not disappointed by what you guys have been able to come up with already!
My favorites so far are Magistrum's Homunculus, Harle's Charon-fish, McFlareon's Hot Pot Crab (say it three times fast) and hot spring macaque, Precipice's Viking Boat, Yilx's Coelecanth, and Blue Frog's Fish-in-a-Pot. I can't wait to see what else everyone will come up with!
>resume lurking
 
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Original designs seen here
Design two seen here
HUGE EDIT: 3/28/13
Redesigned. Even bigger redesign coming soon.

Edit: Thank you very much for the feedback, Quanyails. I will expand on my dreamcatcher design.
Big edit: Overhauled the dreamcatcher design and have focused on it.

I made the dreamcatcher more obviously fire related, with flame designs and colors. It looks similar to a chakram, and is a lot more weaponized and sharp. I found the bells to be interesting from the original design, so I kept them, but with the addition of the wings, I only kept two and tied them together.
Originally it was just the top flame symbol that had an eye in addition to the water drop, but I felt it resembled Sigilyph too much, so I put them on every other flame as well.
It's less of a dream catcher now than a sort of pseudo-sun, but I still think it gives across a more abstract design rather well
I like this design, and will most likely use it for my final submission, or a slightly edited version, anyway.
As always, any and all feedback is greatly appreciated. I know it's not what most people expected to see.

Thoughts on others
I really love your poke, Sunfished. The Quagsire resemblance is adorable.

Precipice, your boat has a great design. I especially like how you incorporated the pokeball design down its side. The fire version of it looks great. The fins/arms look like they either need a new shape or new coloring.

Arekis, your design is wonderful. I'd love to see this go further.

TeamNormalizer, the fire on your dolphin's back does a fine job of imitating a fin.

The Steam Punk, I love love love your design. The only issue I have is that it resembles a pre-evolution more than a fully evolved pokemon.

Panzer Jaegar, your design is good, but on your normal coloration it appears that the pokemon has a head of blonde hair, which does not look great. I would suggest trying a new head design.

D4rk3r, I would suggest the raincloud design. The teapot has already been done a few times, one just looks like dragonair, and the other isn't much. If you do decide to go with a different one, then try and make your teapot stand out.

Blue Frog, great redesign! The only problem is the bit above the mouth where the antennae connect.
 
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Hey everyone! So many great designs here already, I don't know how I'm gonna compete! I'd comment on all of them, but unfortunately I'm a bit pressed for time, but I thought I'd just drop a quick WIP here to hopefully get some feedback.

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So when I thought of water and fire together, I immediately thought of the Ring of Fire from Finding Nemo. Even though it's not a literal ring in the movie, that led me to think of dolphins as marine animals that jump through hoops and how actual rings of fire are used in circus acts for things like lions to jump through. I ended up growing kinda attached to that idea, plus I realized that there's actually no existing dolphin Pokemon, so I drew this up. Sorry about the poor quality and the fact that it's on lined paper and not in color, by the way. I drew this in class, so I didn't have anything better available, and I've always had a terrible scanner. The scanner actually made it look a lot worse. It completely ruined the smoke coming from the blowhole.

Back to the design, I'm... not so sure I like how it came out. I feel like it looks a bit cluttered and wish I had simplified it a bit more, though I don't know how to do that. It's also lacking a real dorsal fin, but it looked WAY too cluttered when I put one on. I tried to put one in by manipulating the shape of the fire, but I don't think it worked since the positioning's off. It looked too much like an ichthyosaur without the fin though, and it still kind of does. For color scheme, I'm not quite sure what to go with. At the moment I have it as a pale, grayish baby blue underbelly and a light reddish brown top with silver or white rings. If anyone's got a better suggestion, let me know.

The one thing I like about the design is how well it lends itself to fun facts, some of which could relate the design to its stats. What I'm thinking here is that it has flaps under the rings that it can open and close at will. When open, fire escapes and it propels itself forward like a rocket, which could account for a high speed or physical attack and moves like Flare Blitz. It can do this above or below water, and can propel itself through the air for a short period of time. If it closes the flaps, it will stop moving, but when it does fire pressure begins to build up inside of it, which it then will release through its blowhole, creating a jet of either boiling water (ie Scald) or plain fire (Lava Plume, Flamethrower, etc). I may have to change the design if the CAP ends up being defensive though.

Anyways, I hope you guys like it! Also, if I've done anything wrong with my post in some way please forgive me, I'm new here on the forums.
 
Oh, boy, it's only been a day, and we already have a page of great art submissions. :D Here's my submission sketch.

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The vibrant colors, patterns, and proportions of the drawing are alll drawn from Chinese lion depictions; moreso the costumes used in festivals more than stone statues, but there's a bit of both in there. Lions are typically associated with fire, which is re-enforced with the reds, yellows, and whites of costumes. The addition of blue, alongside the wobbly lines and 'mane' gives the design watery characteristics without making it completely aquatic. It turns out that the patterns--in particular, the stripes--make the design resemble a tiger, which have an affinity for water. That works, too.

Comments:
  • Kadew: First in this time! :D Keep it up! I will warn you that 'fiery fish' seems to be a common idea for designs, so be aware of where your design stands among them. I personally think the body could have more design rather than the gradient through it, as pretty as it is. Another pattern, more fins, or something else?
  • magistrum: As mentioned on IRC, I like your homunculus. :) Both designs are neat, but the homunculus integrates Fire and Water as typings better for me. The kappa is more of a, well, kappa with fire-y elements. If I had to criticize anything for the homunculus, it'd be a question of what those patterns on the body are. Just ritualistic circles? :P It works, though they draw my attention and curiosity. Perhaps keeping them will keep the design more interesting.
  • pkmn-taicho321: I thought of a hydra at first, and I thought that would've worked because a hydra is a water serpent and Hercules burned its heads with fire. Perhaps you could go somewhere with that. :) If not, I'd like to see either more of a division between the two heads or less.
  • SquirtleSquad626: A platypus makes me think of Poison, but I guess I could see it working for Fire. You can have your description be anything as long as it doesn't specify later stages of the CAP process. While the idea is interesting, I wonder if it feels too much like you're adding Fire-type elements onto a watery design? Hey, if it works, it works, which your design does.
  • Birkal: It's cute, that's for sure. :P I like how the grate openings are the fins. A snapper would be, well, more snappy, I'd think. I couldn't identify it as a snapper versus another red fish. o3o Or just a fish that's red. You'd need more detail for that design to be more than a cartoonish fire-blowing fish.
  • mcFlareon: The crab immediately caught my eye, and it'd make a good candidate in case we get a certain ability. :P I wonder if it'll come out like Clauncher (its shiny palette in particular) in coloring and design, though? If so, you may want to go toward another option. I caught the macaque monkey design in idea immediately. :) It'd be a good way to go if you can incorporate Fire and Water well over other typings.
  • User of Shadows: The Antarctic sea slug is a perennial in fakemon, and here I see another interpretation. The design has the potential to be great instead of good if the fire and water components weren't so isolated. A sea slug is a SEA slug, but the volcano is isolated to one region instead of contributing to the design elsewhere. Volcanic veins spreading throughout the body would be cool; at least a dash of red beyond the fins and reflected eye light.
  • Sgt. Moose: Humorous, certainly. :P Firefighting, despite its name, does use water, so... thematically, it works. In design, though, it looks like a frog wearing a helmet. Maybe making the lid of the helmet the edge of the head and the dome the body or something will make it less artificial. The hose tongue, too. It's literally a hose at the moment, whereas it could benefit from being more tongue like.
  • HollowRidley: Ooh, cool deep-sea vent design. :D Those work with Fire/Water well. The 'orochi' part isn't conveyed that well to me; Barbaracle would convey the idea the same amount. Perhaps a serpentine body, not rooted to the ground, with it being more like a hydra, would work if you want to add that inspiration in more, if you'd like.
  • Dracoyoshi8: I don't see 'marine' just yet: volcanic, yes, but the marine part isn't evident from the lines alone. Perhaps you can prove me wrong with an updated post. :)
  • Flummoxen: Nice incorporation of ink jets, rockets, and squid. That's a sentence you don't hear everyday. :P I love the idea and the execution! If possible, editing the gray for a blue will make the design look less metallic and Steel-typed, but regardless of that, the design carries the typing well.
  • Arkeis: Aha! #cap was wondering about elephant teapots, Arkeis, and you have not disappointed! You can incorporate elements from these designs without flaw, as you've done here. :) Nicely done!
  • Dragonblaze052: The shape of the turtle interests me the most, I must say. I can't say much about the other designs, seeing how they're mostly sketches at the point, but out of the sketches, B catches my eye right away. I will say, though, if you are using volcanoes as a design element, to be wary of boring the viewer, given how they seem common to Fire/Water designs. :P
  • Yilx: Woah, nice sketches. Squid bears a slight resemblence to Arghonaut, but it isolated works quite well. The coelacanth and its ridges, steam, and such look cool; steampunk-ish, vaguely. There will be competition from volcanic sea critters, though, just to tell you, so... a sea angel would stand out.
  • Harle: Hmm, I've seen the idea before, in both in-game pokemon and as a CAP design. Not that that's a bad thint at all! An angler fish works well with Fire/Water, and your stylizations give the design charm. Those jagged fangs, wide eyes, and watercolor-inspired colors look great! Style definitely helps with your idea.
  • epicparker: Incorporate the fiery and watery parts of the design together, I'd say, unless it's meant to be chimeric. I like designs with coherency, personally, and that is something to consider for other voters as well.
  • Precipice: The design looks epic in the formal sense of the word. :O The fins, pokeball shields, and head all contribute to the aesthetic quite well. :) Fantastic!
  • TorterraX: Hmm, I'm not feeling the crocodile design. Is there anything more than the crocodile with the appropriate elements added? A salamander does have fire in mythology and is amphibious, so I would choose that idea to expand upon.
  • Agous: o3o I don't see it just yet; more of a hot water bottle more than a firefighting or fire fighting manatee. Please do expand on the design. :)
  • Sunfished: Adorable! :D I just love its derpiness and design in general! The patterns and design integrate into the typing fantastically, and the charm of the design is a bonus! I love it!
  • ZirconSubway: The style of the drawing is quite interesting; this wouldn't look out of place in-game, I'd think. :) The colors work, the inspiration works, and the style work... I do wish it was a little more eye-catching, though.
  • Blue Frog: Well, if the pot were slightly less artificial (that Magikarp insignia, in particular), I'd be more attracted to the design. The idea is cute. :)
  • FlinchMachine: Hmm...? o.O I'm not feeling the design, probably because it looks quite humanoid. Altering some proportions or colors will alleviate that Uncanny Valley-ness, but as it stands, the design doesn't appeal to me. Again, this is my opinion, so if you want to stay with the idea, you have complete freedom to.
  • Flame_Effigy: Ah, more abstract designs! The lower two remind me of Unown, and I think you should go in that direction. If not, then the cloud with a face should have more substance than just that. Those little details on the dreamcatcher help the design greatly. Abstraction, though, can make a design feel like a Psychic type; I don't particularly see Fire in any of the designs, so that would be something nice to bring out.
  • Mr Spyda: Can the design stand on its own, though? A watery Charmander would imply some relationship to the Charmander line, and CAPs have no relationship with in-game pokemon. If there is some reason behind the similarity, please do tell, but otherwise, something less drawn from existing material helps a CAP stand on its own.
  • TeamNormalizer: Dolphins! One of those oft-requested designs manifest as pokemon. I love the inspiration! Don't worry about if it looks different than its source; Pokemon has the freedom of doing so for original designs. As for the design itself: the fire could be less flat; it looks currently like it bursts everywhere from the rings--like grass skirts, maybe. :P Isolating the fire upwards or having it be like fins would give those areas more to focus on. Perhaps in another drawing, if you're unsatisfied with the current?
 
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A link to this image for when I inevitably remove it for the next stage in the artistic progress: http://imgur.com/k2DMRhj

First of all, This design is still in the draft phase, and is by no means final. This was the rough sketch I drew in the back of my math notebook after being stricken with the idea at school. I will eventually have it on nicer paper and colored of course.

I've played with the idea of a Fire/Water-Type for years, and always figured that steam best exemplified the combination. Until this CAP's Type was decided upon and inspiration struck, I couldn't decide how to represent steam as a Pokemon. And then it hit me, a boiler! The steam pouring from its pipes is as much a part of its design as smoke is to Torkoal's. That's allowed under the props rule, right?

I think my favorite part of this art is the steam clouds. I was having some trouble with them so I decided to get some ideas from Torkoal and I think that they came out great.

As much as I like this design, I'm still debating whether to keep the pressure gauge eyes or give it more "life-like" eyes. My other issue is that it may look too Steel-Type-y and not enough like a Water-Type. I'd appreciate some opinions/critiques.

My Comments:

D4rk3r Yeah, arkeis already posted something similar to yours and, personally, I like his design better. That doesn't mean that I don't like your's as well. Is it supposed to remind me of heffalumps and woozles or is that just my own thought processes?

Knirp: is that supposed to be smoke coming out of its head or a mane? Because, at the moment, it kind of looks like it's topped with whipped cream.

The Steam Punk : Surprisingly, your's and mine are the only designs I've seen so far that are "steam-powered" per se. Shame...

Yilx: I love it, it's adorable. Mods are gonna merge your posts.

psg edit: I've merged your posts; read the OP about posting limits
Thanks. Sorry 'bout that.
 
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I drew up something quickly, I don't think I will have time the coming weeks to fully participate in this CAP sadly...
but at least I can try to enjoy some of you with this odd clown fish:P

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I like quite a few of the designs that have been posted,
but Arkeis' elephant is my favorite for now:)
 
Well, when I heard Fire/Water, I immediately thought of a steam-powered Pokemon. But then I thought, "Nah, everyone'll jump on that bandwagon."
This is the second thing I thought of.
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Yes, it's Cauldron-mon! Constantly heated to a boil, this mon moves around by expelling steam from its bubbly brew through the ports on its legs. Its eyes are actually part of its internal fire, made visible by the eye-shaped holes in its body.
Huh. I guess it did end up being steam-powered. What do you all think?
 
http://m.imgur.com/8yYqMNt
Top left - It's a sun. On a raincloud.
Top right - Kettlephant V. 2
Bottom left - A sort of steam ball. It has water and fire floating around it.
Bottom middle - It's a seal with fire/steam/boiling water shooting from it's rings.
Bottom right - A fiery snake/seahorse with bubbles.
I have no idea which one I should do.
 
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Some awesome art in here, this is one of my favourite parts of the CAP! If I could offer some general advice to all submitters, perhaps trying to avoid the mandatory "sea-creature" image would make for a more interesting 'mon? Apologies if my post sounds rude, just my thoughts on the matter! Keep up the awesome artwork!
 
Welp no idea what I'm doing with this.

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I'll probably mess around with a few more ideas, and I can't really decide whether to go for this or the alt colour. I think the water "beard" looks nicer but I also sort of want to keep the fire/water references less in your face since the camel is supposed to be based around geothermal hot springs (high internal temperature + humps that store water?). Let me know what you all think re: the colour schemes or the concept in general.
 
OK SO!
I have a first pass from two days ago that I'd like to share.
http://s945.photobucket.com/user/MisterVii/media/Capture202013.png.html?sort=3&o=1
(sorry, the file size is a bit bigger than allowed and I can't edit the image size/quality right now)

It's based on the OwlBear from the d&d realm of monsters. I picked this to try turning into a pokemon, because the attributes of Fire and Water make me think of oracles and mystics, and a mastery of life (Fire is seen in some parts of the world as a creative/life giving element) and health (Water is often associated with recovery), and I feel like an owl and a bear combined represents my thoughts about this dual-type so perfectly. My plan here is to make a Pokémon that is essentially an eccentric but wise being who, in the Pokémon universe, may play a role as a river guardian, famed to bestow battling wisdom to anyone who gets to challenge it. I need to figure out where I want my reds and blues, but I want it to kind of look like it jumped right out of a native American painting.

Now, I just need to give it that Sugimori flair...

-On an editorial note, I have a few designs that I like so far.
Quanyails-I love seeing mammals getting interpreted into unorthodox type combos, and they always come with so much potential to be really inventive, so I'm excited to see where you take yours!

Precipice-You can get around having to draw fire if you gave it flame-shaped armaments. It is a boat, after all.

Magistrum-Your kappa reminds me too much of Pyroak. I'd be interested in seeing how far you can take the alchemy-themed one.

Also I'm in love with all of the teapots and kettles. If I had it my way, they'd all be sitting on my chachke shelf right now.

EDIT: miririri, just evolve that little darling and you'll be set. Hell, I'd want to train that.
 
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to start off, a cutesy concept of what i intended to do.
might make it more "fearsome" if necessary :')

Base animal concept: Salamander.
Salamanders have been told in myths to be born from flames, but at the same time in another myth, to be so cold they can put out flames with a touch.
I imagined a bulky salamander with access to acid armor, and so this was made:

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(casually names the thing salafoam)

well, any suggestions always appreciated ^w^
 
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Well, here's my renekton Submission! :D

It's based on a fireman and a crocodile/Alligator and its shiny form based on a WW2 flamethrower soldier. Its female form have some slight difference though

It fires the good stuff from its tail like a fireman's hose or a soldiers flamethrower nozzle.

I might post updates, for this though...
 
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Arkeis said:
Hi CAP, I haven't posted here (or anywhere on Smogon) for a while.

Here's my first idea for a Fire/Water type

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A combination of a teapot and those Indian elephants that carry people on their backs
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This is beautiful and perfect. Lots of great work here, but beyond being aesthetically wonderful, this one's just so clever.
 
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