Hi everyone! I'm new here and I want to share some info about Chesnaught, I don't know if this has been answered yet but I managed to breed my female Chespin with a male Torkoal with Shell Smash and the hatched Chespin didn't learned it. I didn't try breeding my female Chesnaught with Torkoal, but I don't think it can learn Shell Smash anyways. Hope this info can help here in someway.
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Pokémon Chesnaught (Revamp Occurring)
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We already covered that on accident. All we can hope now is that Z or an event gives it to him, right? Thanks for the help, and welcome to Smogon!
Zebraiken in the Battle Mechanics Research Thread proved that Bulletproof makes Chesnaught immune to Shadow Ball, Focus Blast, and Sludge Bomb which is basically most of Gengar's offensive movepool besides Thunderbolt (which it resists) and Psychic (which is rare... for now at least). Obviously Sub + Disable and Destiny Bond are still going to be a pain in the ass but if Chesnaught is ever up against an offensive Gengar it can kill it off with Shadow Claw or Earthquake for Mega Gengar.
Sorry to be "that guy", but would you be able to get a screenshot? All previous information said he COULDN'T get it as an egg move, but I'm really hoping he can.
Also, anyone know if he can get Focus Punch? If so, he could run the ooooold SubSeedPunch set. With either Wood Hammer or Shadow claw as a 4th move. I haven't seen or ran a subPunch set since early DPPt days, though, so I don't know if it changed in B/W at all.
Well, given enough support, it certainly has more potential then Verizon Wireless
Give an image to the research thread, then I'll add to the sets.
Virizion is a less powerful, faster, specially bulky Pokemon. Chesnaught is better compared to Breloom in terms of stats.
Sure is better than Overgrow, isn't it? Now all we need to know is the move legalities.
Breloom has paper thin defenses. Chesnaught is better suited as a tank. Key resistances to dark, water, grass, ground, rock, and electric are nice. Immunity to sludge bomb, focus blast, shadow ball and aura sphere are important as Chesnaught's special defenses are low. Also don't forget it's immunity to sleep power, stun spore, and spore. I'd go adamant 252 HP/252 Atk.
Legalities don't seem to be an issue within Gen 6, right? Just with stuff being transferred from earlier gens.
@Everyone arguing over whether Gengar will use Sludge Wave or Sludge Bomb: Sludge Wave is illegal with Disable since the former can only be obtained by catching a DW Gastly while the latter has to be bred. This means that Gengars (arguably) best set can't run Sludge Wave.
Bulletproof Chesnaught will be able to wall Gengar to hell and back once it figures out whether it could run Sludge Wave or not. Psychic is really the only other option for Gengar and that offers poor coverage otherwise. Although, Chesnaught will still have trouble actually hitting Sub Disable Gengar back since it resist or is immune to its STABs.
Bulletproof Chesnaught will be able to wall Gengar to hell and back once it figures out whether it could run Sludge Wave or not. Psychic is really the only other option for Gengar and that offers poor coverage otherwise. Although, Chesnaught will still have trouble actually hitting Sub Disable Gengar back since it resist or is immune to its STABs.
It has been confirmed that Chesnaught can't learn Drain Punch and it has also been confirmed that it gets Synthesis, so it has reliable recovery, which is very good news for both tankish and Bulk Up sets. Close Combat also hasn't yet been confirmed to be on its movepool, so remove it for now.
This just in: Chespin learns Spikes as an egg move.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/attachments/spikes-jpg.2295/
http://www.smogon.com/forums/attachments/spikes-jpg.2295/
I based it on its defense qualities, mirroring Virizions special defenses. I just wanted an opportunity to say Verizon Wireless, the inspiration for the pokemons name :P
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how is it immune to sleep/spores?
Grass Pokemon are immune to Powder-esque moves now.
In 6 gen Grass-type Pokémon are no longer affected by moves such as Spore, Stun Spore, PoisonPowder or Sleep Powder
Many thanks.
Second question: is there a thread with all gen 6 changes? I seem to be finding these out one at a time on different threads and can't find a universal one.
Wow, this fella might make it in OU with its two latest movepool additions (Spikes and Synthesis). Useful defensive typing, great physical bulk, good STABs and power, healing moves (Leech Seed and Synthesis), a great stalling move (the Protect that damages Pokemon that use contact moves), and of course Spikes. Ability to check Gengar, Mega Gengar, and other Poison-types that rely on Sludge Bomb, such as Tentacruel, is another really cool think it has going for it.
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OU might be a little too much of wishful thinking. Although the addition of synthesis and spikes were absolute godsends to Chespin's move pool, he simply cannot compare to the other spikers of OU. Roserade can now run sleep powder along with spikes, while deoxys is well deoxys, and klefki gets priority. I had little hope for Chesnaught believing him up to be put to the same fate as torterra, NU. Although I had hoped for a shell smash offender, I will settle for a brilliant spiking defender in lower tiers.
I saw that none attack moves go through King's Shield, is the same true for spiky shield?
I don't know about OU, but UU at most. Spikes is too important to pass up. NU is really not giving it credit for it's ability, typing, and movepool.
Sludge Wave is TM34. Is the TM incompatible with Gengar or something?
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