Project Core Analysis Workshop (Discussing Partners for Mega Sharpedo + Tank Chomp)

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Altaria @ Altarianite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 168 SpA / 92 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hyper Voice
- Fire Blast
- Roost
- Heal Bell / Earthquake

Excadrill and TTar are threatened by Fighting- and Water- types, both of which Altaria does a pretty good job checking. It also provides the team with Hel Bell support to remove Burns caused by the likes of Rotom-W. Not only that, but Altaria supports the core pretty well offensively too, by luring Scizor, Ferrothorn and Skarmory, which can prevent Excadrill from sweeping.
 
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Latias @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 72 HP / 184 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power Fire
- Roost

Latias helps to patch up the Keldeo weakness and is able to check Fighting-types such as Breloom, Conkeldurr and Chesnaught. It is also able to do well against bulky Water-types such as Suicune and Manaphy while also being a reliable switch-in against Mega Charizard-Y. Excadrill helps out Latias by providing an answer to Mega Gardevoir, Clefable and Jirachi, all of which Latias struggles against. Hidden Power Fire is chosen over Healing Wish to lure Mega Scizor, Ferrothorn and Skarmory, all of which are annoying foes. Roost is used so that Latias is not worn down too quickly.
 
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Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 104 Hp / 152 Def / 252 SpA
Bold Nature
- Psychic
- Giga Drain
- Recover
- HP Fire/Thunder Wave/HP Ice

Celebi works extremely well as a Status Absorber for WoWs from Rotom W and works well against both Fighting and Water types, something the core struggles against. These EVs maximize the defensive bulk Celebi has to avoid the 2hko from a Poison Jab Assault Vest Conkeldurr while being able to 2hk0 98% of the time with Psychic. Celebi also checks Breloom, Choiced Landos without U-Turn. Manaphy Ice Beam does not 2hk0 either while you 2hk0 back with Giga Drain. Its a nice switch in to Bulky Waters as well.

252 SpA Manaphy Ice Beam vs. 104 HP / 0 SpD Celebi: 164-194 (44.6 - 52.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Celebi Giga Drain vs. 80 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 204-242 (56.5 - 67%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Poison Jab vs. 104 HP / 152+ Def Celebi: 158-188 (43 - 51.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Celebi Psychic vs. 0 HP / 236 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 174-206 (49.5 - 58.6%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO

252 Atk Landorus-T Stone Edge vs. 104 HP / 152+ Def Celebi: 93-110 (25.3 - 29.9%) -- 0.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 104 HP / 152+ Def Celebi: 69-82 (18.8 - 22.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

Your 4th moveslot depends on what you want to hit. HP Ice hits Dragons and Garchomp. HP Fire hits steels like Scizor/Ferrothorn while Thunder Wave is nice for Speed Control.
 
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Keldeo (any set)

Keldeo @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Justified
EVs: 6 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Secret Sword
- Hydro Pump
- Icy Wind

Keldeo is a great partner for this core as it can kill bulky grounds that are in the way of an exca sweep and it appreciates the pursuit support from tar which removes the lati twins. They also have decent defensive synergy as keldeo can take water attacks and not mind scald burns while exca can take flying/electric and psychic attacks for keld.
 

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Kyurem-Black @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Atk / 32 SpA / 224 Spe
Naive Nature
- Ice Beam
- Outrage
- Fusion Bolt
- Dragon Claw

Some threats that Tyranitar and Excadrill struggle with are Hippowdon, Lando-T (including choice scarf), Tank Garchomp, Mega Venusaur, Azumarill, Keldeo and Charizard Y. Even though Tyranitar has Ice Beam, so Lando-T isn't a problem, but Tank chomp can 2HKO Tyranitar and it's also able to survive an Ice Beam as well. Kyurem-Black is able to provide a stronger faster Ice Beam that's able to 1HKO Lando and Garchomp, and also 2HKO Mega Venusaur and Hippowdon. Keldeo, Azumarill and Charizard-Y all fall to Fusion Bolt, and Choice Scarf is necessary to outspeed Keldeo, which could otherwise just KO Kyurem-Black with Secret Sword.
 
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Dragonite @ Life Orb
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Ice Beam
- Fire Blast
- Thunderbolt / Roost

Sand offense is often focussed on cleaning with Excadrill but there are some pokemon that need to be removed before Excadrill can sweep. Not only does Dragonite have great defensive synergy with both Excadrill and Tyranitar, as it resists fighting, water and ground, but it is also able to lure in almost every switchin to Excadrill. Offensive threats that can check Excadrill or Tyranitar, like Banded Azu, Keldeo, Breloom and MScizor, are all OHKOd by one of the moves Dragonite has to offer. Other pokemon that can switch in against Exca like Slowbro, Rotom-W, Quagsire, Chesnaught, Ferrothorn, Hippowdon and Skarmory can also switch in against Dragonite, assuming it is either banded or DD, but will be surprised by one of the coverage moves. Dragonite still struggles with fairies if it doesn't run Iron Tail / Head, but Excadrill can beat almost every fairy type in the game.
 
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Dad (Tyrantrum) @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Head Smash
- Outrage
- Superpower
- Aerial Ace (for chesnaught... Lets b real tho ur just gonna use head smash. Everything else is filler)

Double dino.
CB tyrantrum breaks sooo HARD. It literally kills every Exca counter with its STABs. hippo is 2hko by outrage. Head Smash merks bro, Rotom and skarm. Offensive lando can't even switch in. Ttar Pursuits latios so it won't revenge this guy. Exca checks most fairy types. It makes you weak to Keldeo so Latios or Altaria fit perfectly with these mons. Also some steels that resist rock are annoying but Superpower helps and Exca has EQ so nbd.
 
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Serperior @ Life Orb
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse
- Hidden Power Fire
- Giga Drain

Serperior is a great part of this core because it checks the grass and water types both TTar and Drill fear while providing a mean special attacker to compliment their offense. Drill and TTar open holes by beating Heatran, Lati@s, and Talonflame which gives Serperior room to sweep.
 

Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Psyshock / Thunderbolt
- Rapid Spin / Hidden Power Fire

Offensively, and all-out attacking starmie OKHO's - 2HKO's every one of this cores counters. With its insane coverage it hits pretty much everything that's a problem for this core super effectively bar azumarill if you opt for psyshock over tbolt, who takes roughly half anyway.
 

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Ok new core for the week:


Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Calm Nature
- Calm Mind
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled
- Thunder Wave


Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 244 HP / 8 Def / 200 SpD / 56 Spe
Careful Nature
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Roost

Strong balance core that cover each other pretty well and offer bulky win cons & status absorbers. Clef handles Weavile, Kyu-B, many variants of Keldeo and electric types carrying ice type coverage for Gliscor. In return Gliscor handles Gengar, Heatran and Bisharp to an extent while also being able to deal with things like Amoonguss. I threw T-Wave on Clefable because that set is extremely popular right now.

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Keldeo @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Icy Wind

Specs Keldeo is capable of powering its way through Clefable and Gliscor with Hydro Pump, or just Scald after prior damage on Clefable

252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 244-288 (61.9 - 73%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Hydro Pump vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 492-582 (139.7 - 165.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Scald vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 178-210 (45.1 - 53.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Choice Specs Keldeo Scald vs. 244 HP / 192+ SpD Gliscor: 356-422 (101.1 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Manaphy @ Lum Berry
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
- Tail Glow
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball / Psychic / Hidden Power Fire

Thanks to Manaphy outspeeding both members of the core, once Manaphy gets to +3, it's pretty much over for both Clefable and Gliscor. Lum Berry grants it a one-time immunity to Clefable's Thunder Wave, proceeding to 2HKO with Scald, while Clefable does pitiful damage back thanks to Manaphy's good bulk. Gliscor has literally no chance lol, as even unboosted, Ice Beam OHKOs after Rocks.
 
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Thundurus @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Ice
- Sludge Wave

Boosts up with Nasty Plot, doesn't care about Thunder Wave and OHKOes both with Super Effective coverage moves. You can use Life Orb to have a OHKO on Gliscor but the increase in power is unnecessary since you can just boost in front of the core.
 

Charizard @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze (Drought)
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature / Modest Nature
- Fire Blast
- Solar Beam
- Focus Blast
- Roost

Zard Y steamrolls right over them, and Gliscor lacks Stone Edge to KO Zard. Zard Y hates Thunder Wave and fails to OHKO Clefable, but Clefable dislikes dealing with Zard Y's raw power anyways
 
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Azumarill @ Choice Band
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet
- Superpower

Azumarill puts a lot of work against Balanced cores. Indeed, it OHKO Gliscor with Waterfall and outspeeds and 2HKO Clefable with Play Rough / Waterfall

252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 280-331 (71 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 250-295 (63.4 - 74.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Gliscor: 392-464 (111.3 - 131.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 118-141 (30.7 - 36.7%) -- 64.9% chance to 3HKO
0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 172 HP / 4 Def Azumarill: 124-147 (32.2 - 38.2%) -- 97.2% chance to 3HKO
 
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Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Hammer Arm
- Ice Punch

Switches into anything from Clefable bar Thunder Wave, and very easily OHKOs with Meteor Mash:

252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Meteor Mash vs. 252 HP / 174 Def Clefable: 446-528 (113.1 - 134%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Gliscor can't switch in becuase it is OHKOed by Ice Punch:

252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Metagross Ice Punch vs. 244 HP / 8 Def Gliscor: 388-460 (110.2 - 130.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Ice Punch
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Sucker Punch

Pretty soft check/answer to the core as it cant switch into either well as it dies from EQ and dislikes losing Life Orb to Knock Off as well as being paralyzed by Clefable, although it can take a Moonblast in a pinch. Offensively, it OHKOs Clefable with Gunk Shot and OHKOs Gliscor after Stealth Rock damage with Ice Punch [unless you're absurdly unlucky].

252 Atk Life Orb Toxicroak Gunk Shot vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 463-549 (117.5 - 139.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Toxicroak Ice Punch vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Gliscor: 307-364 (87.2 - 103.4%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
 
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Diggersby @ Life Orb
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Earthquake
- Quick Attack
- Swords Dance

Diggersby easily 2HKO both members of this core even without a Life Orb (!) with a devastatingly powerful STAB Return.

252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 294-347 (74.6 - 88%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Life Orb Huge Power Diggersby Return vs. 244 HP / 8 Def Gliscor: 231-273 (65.6 - 77.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
 
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Heracross @ Heracronite
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Pin Missile
- Rock Blast
- Swords Dance

Eats up anything Gliscor can throw at it, sets up a Swords Dance and proceed to break both members of the core. It can also set up on Clefable (Moonblast doesn't KO) but getting paralyzed by Thunder Wave is annoying.
 

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Atk / 16 Def / 200 SpD
Impish Nature
- Swords Dance
- Roost
- Bullet Punch
- Knock Off

Standard Scizor Mega. 1 SD and Clef dies to BP. Gliscor's unboosted attack deals a small damage to Scizor and if Gliscor sets up at the same time as Scizor, Scizor would win due to priority of BP. T-Wave from Clef is annoying though.

0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 200 SpD Mega Scizor: 41-48 (11.9 - 13.9%) -- possible 8HKO
+2 44 Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 172 Def Clefable: 398-470 (101 - 119.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+4 0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 16+ Def Mega Scizor: 207-244 (60.3 - 71.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+4 44 Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 244 HP / 8 Def Gliscor: 234-276 (66.4 - 78.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
 

Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
IVs: 29 HP
Timid Nature
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Wave
-Focus Blast
-Icy Wind

Clef and Gliscor can't switch into Shadow Ball, which is Gengar most spammable move, and are afterwards KOd by the appropiate move. Can't really switch into the core, but once it's in it can really threaten both of them.
 
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Medicham @ Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- High Jump Kick
- Zen Headbutt
- Ice Punch
- Fake Out/ Bullet Punch

Mega medicham is a very underrated wallbreaker atm that's seeing a rise in usage and for good reason. Mega Medicham can raise hell against most teams when it gets a free switch and this is no different with this core. Though it can't switch into clefable clefable also can't switch into any of medicham's moves without avoiding a ko the next turn except maybe Fake Out whereas Gliscor is easily outsped & 1hkoed by ice punch.
 
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Nidoking @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt


The replacement to lando-i right here, switches into Clefable for free pretty much, Sludge Wave is a OHKO/easy 2HKO (roll). Gliscor on the other hand gets outsped and decimated by Ice Beam. Can live one +0 EQ if you really need to switch it into Gliscor for whatever reason, lol.



252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Sludge Wave vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 359-424 (91.1 - 107.6%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Nidoking Ice Beam vs. 244 HP / 200+ SpD Gliscor: 458-541 (130.1 - 153.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Atk Gliscor Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Nidoking: 254-302 (83.8 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

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neon lights (Starmie) @ Life Orb
Ability: Analytic
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Rapid Spin

Really big threat, because Analytic-boosted Hydro Pump 2HKOes Clefable on the switch, and either Ice Beam or Hydro Pump OHKOes Gliscor. Obviously can't switch in on Clefable for fear of Thunder Wave or Gliscor for fear of taking quite a bit of damage from Earthquake or a potential Knock Off.

Calcs:

252 SpA Life Orb Analytic Starmie Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 231-273 (58.6 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 84+ SpD Clefable: 177-211 (44.9 - 53.5%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
(177, 179, 181, 185, 187, 188, 191, 192, 195, 196, 199, 200, 203, 204, 207, 211)
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Ice Beam vs. 244 HP / 200+ SpD Gliscor: 390-463 (110.7 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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