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Current OU Metagame Analysis

Discussion in 'Archives' started by Judgement, Jun 7, 2006.

  1. Judgement

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    May 24, 2006
    I think the title makes the point pretty obvious. Anyway, another point to this is that there have been changes in the metagame in terms of usage.

    Lets look at the OU tier list:

    * Aerodactyl
    * Alakazam
    * Blaziken
    * Blissey
    * Breloom
    * Celebi
    * Charizard
    * Claydol
    * Donphan
    * Dragonite
    * Dugtrio
    * Dusclops
    * Exeggutor
    * Flygon
    * Forretress
    * Gardevoir
    * Gengar
    * Gyarados
    * Heracross
    * Jirachi
    * Jolteon
    * Ludicolo
    * Magneton
    * Marowak
    * Medicham
    * Metagross
    * Milotic
    * Moltres
    * Ninjask
    * Raikou
    * Regice
    * Regirock
    * Rhydon
    * Salamence
    * Sceptile
    * Skarmory
    * Slaking
    * Snorlax
    * Starmie
    * Steelix
    * Suicune
    * Swampert
    * Tauros
    * Tyranitar
    * Umbreon
    * Vaporeon
    * Venusaur
    * Weezing
    * Zapdos

    However, recent trends have shown that the most common OU pokemon (in order) are these:


    You'll notice that some previously common Pokemon, such as Jolteon are not on the list. This is because of the fact that they are becoming less common because of newer tactics and strategies. Pokemon like Regice and Ninjask are becoming more popular, while Blissey and Snorlax continue to dominate.

    However, a cursory list of Pokemon is not simply effective enough. Some previously common strategies have become less prevalent over time. For example, the CBmence and the Agiligross strategies are not used as much because people decided that the prevalent DDmence and more common CBgross were better, as they suit those Pokemon better. Also, the previously feared "Tyraniboah" has also been used less and DDtar is gaining usage in the current metagame environment. However, DDmence is still seen more, while DDGyarados is seen every so often.

    A note, though. Some Pokemon are making a comeback, including the excellent mixed sweeper, Blaziken. It is known as a common counter for the ever-popular SkarmBliss combo. This has caused the use of Skarmory to lessen somewhat, as even a switch to Blissey is not a safe move anymore.

    However, we can always simply say that those Pokemon are the most common OU pokemon. However, it would not be helpful enough to do that. What use is it without explaining how to counter them? Well, I will do that right now.

    Next to each name will be the name of the most common counters for each Pokemon.

    *Blissey- Blaziken, Metagross, Snorlax, Salamence, Gengar, Marowak, Tyranitar, Jirachi, Heracross, Flygon
    *Snorlax- Blaziken, Metagross, Snorlax, Salamence, Gengar, Milotic, Marowak, Tyranitar, Jirachi, Heracross
    *Salamence- Claydol, Suicune, Milotic, Salamence, Aerodactyl, Regice, Starmie, Marowak, Flygon
    *Swampert- Raikou, Sceptile, Celebi, Suicune, Zapdos, Gyarados
    *Milotic- Raikou, Regice, Sleeptalking Zapdos/Snorlax, Zapdos
    *Starmie- Raikou, Zapdos, Gengar, Dusclops, Snorlax, Blissey
    *Metagross- Blaziken, Metagross, Swampert, Salamence, Marowak, Claydol, Forretress
    *Gengar- Gengar, Snorlax, Dusclops, Raikou, Celebi, Jirachi, Metagross, Swampert, Jolteon, Blissey
    *Skarmory- Blaziken, Raikou, MAGNETON, Snorlax w/ Fire Blast, Claydol, Donphan, Armaldo, Forretress
    *Blaziken- Metagross, Suicune, Snorlax, Dusclops, Celebi, Jirachi, Swampert
    *Ninjask- Armaldo, Aerodactyl, Skarmory, Weezing, Medicham, Suicune, Arcanine
    *Marowak- Any Water type, Sceptile, Ludicolo, and anything faster that has a strong attack.
    *Regice- Medicham, Machamp, Blaziken, Swampert, Snorlax, Metagross, Marowak, Flygon, Tyranitar, Heracross, Jirachi
    *Zapdos- Metagross, Aerodactyl, Regice, Swampert (if Zapdos does not have HP Grass), Flygon (if Zapdos does not HP Ice), Salamence (if Zapdos does not have HP Ice)
    *Flygon- Milotic, Zapdos w/ HP ice, Regice, Swampert, Raikou w/ HP Ice
    *Tyranitar- Claydol, Swampert, Metagross, Aerodactyl, Salamence, Blaziken
    *Forretress- Blaziken, Houndoom, Magneton w/ HP Fire
    *Dusclops- Gengar w/ Shadow Ball, Snorlax w/ Shadow Ball, Suicune, Milotic, Skarmory, Houndoom, Tyranitar
    *Claydol- Milotic, Suicune, Gengar, Snorlax, Houndoom
    *Celebi- Forretress, Gengar, Snorlax, Houndoom, Suicune, Dusclops, Skarmory, Gyarados, Espeon, Alakazam, Celebi
    *Heracross- Salamence, Tyranitar, Gyarados, Zapdos, Dodrio, Skarmory, Weezing, Dusclops, Arcanine, Moltres
    *Jirachi- Moltres, Metagross, Salamence, Tyranitar, Dugtrio, Swampert, Steelix, Claydol, Snorlax, Blaziken

    Also, some Borderline Pokemon, such as Houndoom are being used a bit more, as Houndoom can counter Celebi and other Pokemon fairly easily with its diverse movepool. Another "BL" Pokemon that is seeing a bit more use is Cloyster, a good defensive wall that is unfortunatley weak to both Rock and Fighting, two fairly common types of physical attacks. It also has the ability to use Spikes, a strategy that is not used quite as much in current times. It can catch opponents off-guard, however, if used properly, since many people are not carrying Rapid Spin as much as they used to.

    However, besides all of that, using some of the less-used OU Pokemon can lead to a small advantage since opponents don't expect to see these Pokemon as much. A good example is Medicham. It has a few good uses. Here is a list of some its options:

    * CBcham
    * JaskCham
    * Endure/Reversal Medicham
    * Baton Pass Medicham
    * Bulk-Up Medicham

    All of those have their uses. CBcham makes an excellent starting Pokemon and can quickly take something out. JaskCham is the combination of Ninjask and Medicham, which can lead to a quick sweep. Endure/Reversal Medicham can be used as a last-ditch effort, but is easily foiled by Tyranitar. Baton Pass Medicham can be used to keep a Baton Pass chain going, but should watch out for phazers. Bulk-Up Medicham is a physical sweeper, as well, and can set up to sweep. While Medicham can use Calm Mind, that is not wholly recommended because of its weak Special Attack.

    Another Pokemon that deserves some more usage is Moltres. It has a fairly decent stat spread and has some good moveset options. The best are these two: Sunnybeaming Moltres and Sleeptalking Moltres. It could probably use Choice Band or be used in combination with Ninjask for some physical sweeping, but its weakness to Rock, Water, and Electric does not help it that much.

    As stated previously, using some of these less-used OU Pokemon can be good if the opponent does not know what to expect.

    However, no matter what happens, prediction is always key. If you can't predict, you'll never win. But this analysis will hopefully help you predict what Pokemon your opponent will use, and then it's up to you from there.

    edit- some spelling and grammar, etc.
  2. balladofwindfishes


    May 27, 2006
    Like I said in netbattle, great job, really shows the counters well. I don't see too many dusclops, but oh well, I don't battle that much
  3. noobster

    noobster space cowboy
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    Apr 1, 2005
    I do sort of like the analysis, but the problem I'm seeing with putting this up is that since the metagame is constantly changing, even if it is very gradual changes, it will become outdated fairly fast, which means that it would have to be taken off due to not giving the most up to date information.

    Nice work though, it can still be read

    EDIT: I barely skimmed it, but I'll add my corrections and opinions soon.

    EDIT2: Now that I read it over, I sorta find this guide supbar

  4. ToP


    May 14, 2005
    What I think would be more appropriate would be a Metagame Diary, kind of like Marble Palace used to have. There would be an update about every month or so.
  5. Aeroblacktyl

    Aeroblacktyl The pizza doesn't scream in the oven! LOL!
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    Feb 19, 2005
    Just thought I cleaned it up.
  6. Carl

    Carl or Varl
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    Dec 23, 2004
    Quoting for emphasis.
  7. Mekkah

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    Feb 8, 2005
    I agree with what everyone else said - too temporary (though I'm a firm disbeliever in a real developping metagame on NetBattle because I don't think you need to take it into account for a new team and there's lots of people just ignoring it and making a good team regardless of what's used and what not), and Pokemon like Marowak, Blaziken and Flygon are not that common.
  8. noobster

    noobster space cowboy
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    Apr 1, 2005
    might as well lock since case is closed!

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