In fact this is what i think: they should make a pokemon origins for every region, with the main character being the male/female protaganist in the game (of each region) each season should be at least 12 episodes.
All the characters in the anime are wannabes. Ash never achieves his goal at becoming master, iris doesnt achieve her dream.I do agree that the anime does give Pokemon a bad reputation, mainly because the main protagonist, Ash, is like the worst character in existence and he tells you that its basically just for younger ages, which made some people view it as "all old gens are good", "the new ones are terrible" mainly because he stayed at 10.
Remove the anime, and moer people would play pokemon ;p
Also, I liked Iris, never thought she was that annoying.
Also, I know many adults that think of all video games as childish. They usually have a pretty limited knowledge of video games but think of Nintendo first. And in fact, anything Nintendo usually gets viewed as childish...
That is true, but you do have to look at the overall demographics for Nintendo itself. They have an extremely big demographic to keep, both young and old. It really irks me that people view Nintendo as kiddy when they are simply trying to create as much consumers as possible with their wide-demographically made games, such as Pokemon.If you get rid of the anime, Pokemon is still a game about battling cute monsters. Pokemon designs aren't like the monsters in Monster Hunter. Cute monsters suggest a younger target audience. Things that have lasted for generations (like Disney's stuff) might be loved by adults but they're STILL seen as primarily targeted towards kids... because they are.
Also, I know many adults that think of all video games as childish. They usually have a pretty limited knowledge of video games but think of Nintendo first. And in fact, anything Nintendo usually gets viewed as childish...
So I don't think the anime really makes a difference. I don't think I know anyone that refuses to play Pokemon because of their impression of the anime.
I know, I never said you said that. I was just speaking about everyone else that might say that.I'M not saying Nintendo is kiddy. But when you talk to people in their 50s about Nintendo who don't play games themselves, what do they usually think?
A game made in storybook example would seem to back that point up, sword thrust through forehead or not. I mean, even Disney has its dark moments.
The anime is also contradictory in its morals. When a trainer abandons their pokemon, they are seen in a bad light. I, however, have seen the recent X/Y special premiere, which stated Froakie abandoned its starter trainers because it deemed them weak, but Ash still felt bad for Froakie, still demonizing the trainers. I'm like, what? There's a glaring double-standard to the anime, completely losing sight of its moral of "people and pokemon are partners". Goes to show how poorly written it is.Very true. And the anime overall is just marketed towards children to make money with lackluster diolouge, characters and plot.
The logic in the anime is absurd, with pikachu being able to beat a regice , but unable to beat a lv 5 snivy and (in the new anime) unable to beat a bunnelsby. WTF.
Probably the most ridiculous logic in the show so far is when ash's pignite beat both a heatmor and emboar at the same time with a flame charge (or a fire pledge, i dont remember). The anime is so predictable, with ash losing the league and befriending pokemon........with too many cliches aswell. Children like the show, but to an anime fan like me, the show is a disgrace to anime (the movies are terrible too)
See this video for an extended analysis of why the first movie sucks.^Still doesn't beat the first movie, where the moral is "Pokémon shouldn't fight" (what?!?), then after spending an hour and a half realizing this, the protagonists' memory gets wiped, so they forget all about it ten minutes later.
"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis
"Childish" and "Poorly written" are two completely different things.You might be surprised by by the number of adults that play Pokemon. Adults out of college - out of grad school even. Adults with careers and spouses and children.
You might be even more surprised to that find that features such as PokeAmie are quite popular with the adult demographic (both male and female). And perhaps most most interesting of all is the fact that competative battling isn't that popular with the majority of adults that play Pokemon. (Not to say there aren't adults, such as myself, that enjoy competitive Pokemon.)
Why is this? To bring up a rather famous quote:
Of course they are. Nobody said any different."Childish" and "Poorly written" are two completely different things.
Surgo said:When a man whips out a pink DS with Pokémon, you know he isn't afraid of anything
This would be a fantastic idea. Pokemon Special doesn't have many of the problems of the anime - the comparative lack of character development in the anime and the perpetual idiocy of the main characters come to mind here. The PokeSpe protagonists all end up maturing to some extent, and resets in the maturity levels of the protagonists are perfectly fine because they're ACTUALLY NEW CHARACTERS whom we watch as they themselves grow, as opposed to the apparent amnesiac Ash. The protagonists are also not completely incompetent when it comes to battle strategy - they START OUT knowing what they're doing to some extent, and even the ones who dislike battling (I'm thinking mostly of Yellow, Ruby, and Diamond) start coming up with innovative and effective strategies as time goes on (although the lava-surfing Substitute is completely off the wall). Then, of course, there's the humor factor. I stopped seriously watching the anime midway through 4th-gen, when Ash's idiocy and the generally annoying Dawn drove me away, but I'd have stuck around if we had more funny things than just Piplup on a consistent basis. (The BW arc was completely unsalvageable, but I'm getting off track.) PokeSpe, on the other hand, has humor in spades, including delightfully cringe-inducing puns, although the English translation of the DPPt arc demonstrates that some of Diamond and Pearl's manzai acts are difficult to pull off outside of the original Japanese. Bits like Blue's Pokeball chest stunt, Gold's borderline-harassment (hell, sometimes more than borderline) when it comes to hitting on girls, and maybe even some of Emerald's adorable schmuckdom would be censored in the dubs, unfortunately (VIZ recently re-released translations of the early PokeSpe chapters, and a fair bit of stuff was missing or bastardized), but even with that taken into account, a PokeSpe anime would be MUCH better than the real one. Pokemon Special never even came close to losing its charm, and the fact that it's so much more mature than the current anime would help the perception of the series as a whole, I think.This goes to anybody who has read Adventures: Do you guys think that the storyline in the manga is enough to make an anime adaptation (similarly to FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood) for a more dark and mature series? Objectively, Adventures is pretty comical most of the time rather than serious (tho i still love the storyline and the characters, i never got bored of the manga once, but some arcs couldve definetely been doen better *cough* Emerald *cough*), so, personally, i would like it better off taking a darker side and expanding on the characters more. However, one could always argue that the manga would just be treated as another marketing business due to its childish nature at times, but i digress since, lets say, the infamous pokeball in chest scene, or the development for Silver in HG/SS are examples of scenes directed to the more mature readers.
I love this guy, and btw, Golds harassment in GSC is completely justified, its Blue, hello?This would be a fantastic idea. Pokemon Special doesn't have many of the problems of the anime - the comparative lack of character development in the anime and the perpetual idiocy of the main characters come to mind here. The PokeSpe protagonists all end up maturing to some extent, and resets in the maturity levels of the protagonists are perfectly fine because they're ACTUALLY NEW CHARACTERS whom we watch as they themselves grow, as opposed to the apparent amnesiac Ash. The protagonists are also not completely incompetent when it comes to battle strategy - they START OUT knowing what they're doing to some extent, and even the ones who dislike battling (I'm thinking mostly of Yellow, Ruby, and Diamond) start coming up with innovative and effective strategies as time goes on (although the lava-surfing Substitute is completely off the wall). Then, of course, there's the humor factor. I stopped seriously watching the anime midway through 4th-gen, when Ash's idiocy and the generally annoying Dawn drove me away, but I'd have stuck around if we had more funny things than just Piplup on a consistent basis. (The BW arc was completely unsalvageable, but I'm getting off track.) PokeSpe, on the other hand, has humor in spades, including delightfully cringe-inducing puns, although the English translation of the DPPt arc demonstrates that some of Diamond and Pearl's manzai acts are difficult to pull off outside of the original Japanese. Bits like Blue's Pokeball chest stunt, Gold's borderline-harassment (hell, sometimes more than borderline) when it comes to hitting on girls, and maybe even some of Emerald's adorable schmuckdom would be censored in the dubs, unfortunately (VIZ recently re-released translations of the early PokeSpe chapters, and a fair bit of stuff was missing or bastardized), but even with that taken into account, a PokeSpe anime would be MUCH better than the real one. Pokemon Special never even came close to losing its charm, and the fact that it's so much more mature than the current anime would help the perception of the series as a whole, I think.