DP Research Thread #1 ("Old")

[Atlas]

no it doesnt work surgo, if you sleep talk pursuit, itll always be 40 dam

 

[Matt]

Posting to confirm that Gravity does NOT remove Stealth Rock.

 

[FaInt..]

Does Big Root affect:

- Leech Seed
- Rain Dish/Ice Body

Also how does it interact with Liquid Ooze? Will the "drainer" take more damage if it has Big Root attached?

 

[Sarenji]

Arceus has a Sticky Hold-like ability.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=396662&postcount=16

 

[SDShamshel]

Arceus has a Sticky Hold-like ability.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=396662&postcount=16

This feels like RBY Mewtwo all over again in the sense that "Arceus can counter all of its counters" and "No true counters exist," only magnified because there are absolutely no universal Arceus strategies to get it into a position where your attacks are even super effective.

 

[X-Act]

Was Skill Swap's effect permanent in ADV? That is, if you switch the Skill Swap user out and bring it back, would it have the old or new ability? And does this happen also in DP?

 

[ΩDonut]

It was only temporary in Advance. I imagine it's much the same way in DP.

 

[Best]

Another question about traits: Is Steadfast working on FP flinches?

 

[Tytus]

Driftblim avoided Rock Slide!

I'd say that confirms it. Attacks that hit both opponents in 2v2 will have a "Pokemon avoided the attack!" message in 1v1 rather than the normal "The attack missed!" message.

Also, WTF at the U-Turn thing. It shouldn't come up much, but it's weird.

This was the same way in Advance, wasn't it? I remember my Tyranitar using Rock Slide in 2v2, and it had the "(pokemon) avoided the attack!" message.

 

[AJC]

Another question about traits: Is Steadfast working on FP flinches?

those aren't real flinchs no so

 

[Pablo]

CB Pursuit on a switching foe DOES NOT allow you to switch moves, unlike in the JPN games where you are able to.

 

[Suikama]

CB Pursuit on a switching foe DOES NOT allow you to switch moves, unlike in the JPN games where you are able to.

Oh snap! Looks like CBTar just got a blow it's it's power.

 

[ΩDonut]

It seems odd that they would very suddenly change the game mechanics like that. Could you give a blow-by-blow description of the battle in which you found this?

 

[Jibaku]

Uhh...what would happen in a WiFI match?
(I'm guessing that they'll go in separate mechanics, since the U.S game might not detect the move change as illegal and proceed).

This is another reason that I'm grateful that I brought the Jap version.

In that case, Japanese games have a slight advantage in online battles when faced against the English version

 

[Pablo]

This is what happened:

PaBlO sent out Metagross
Lupo sent out Weavile

Weavile is about to switch out.
Metagross used Pursuit, 50% damage.

Lupo sent in Gyarados.
Gyarados Intimidate doesn't work.

Then I clicked on ThunderPunch confidently, but I got the message: Choice Band allows the use of only one move.

 

[Impetus]

choice band only allows the use of one move, but once you switch out you can choose whatever again when it comes back in (although it will lock it again).

 

[Pablo]

... we know that.

 

[ΩDonut]

Read the disclaimer regarding Pursuit and Choice items on the front page. (Which will now have to be re-updated.)

 

[Zephyr Delta]

Avalanche doesn't get 2x damage if a Sub is hit. Disappointing.

 

[ΩDonut]

It worked that way for Revenge in Advance, too.

 

[Deaga]

Uhh...what would happen in a WiFI match?

Well, in GSC they changed Present's mechanics in Crystal. If I'm not mistaken, in a Gold or Silver vs. Crystal match, Present would work like it does on Crystal. Maybe that's the case on Pursuit too?


And on the fifth generation let's remember to NOT post any glitches we discover anywhere, or they'll be fixed. ;x

 

[KevlarX290]

Does anyone know the effects of Secret Power in D/P?

Also, what about Nature Power? I saw someone post a list of what it turns into a while ago, but I can't find it anymore.

 

[Wild Eep]

A Medicham in Victory Road tried to Hi Jump Kick my Mismagius. The game said "It doesn't affect Mismagius..." and then the Medicham crashed!

I don't remember Hi Jump Kick causing crashes when attacking Ghosts in previous generations. Is this a new thing?

 

[KevlarX290]

They don't crash in the ADV games. So yes, this is a new thing.

 

[Jibaku]

A Medicham in Victory Road tried to Hi Jump Kick my Mismagius. The game said "It doesn't affect Mismagius..." and then the Medicham crashed!

I don't remember Hi Jump Kick causing crashes when attacking Ghosts in previous generations. Is this a new thing?

New thing

It's probably a balance because it has 100 BP now, and that it technically goes right through the ghost