Empoleon (Full Revamp) [QC 3/3] [GP 2/2]

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[Overview]

<p>Meet the bird of honor, Empoleon. It possesses the typing, stats, and movepool it needs to succeed as a special wall. For a bulky Water-type, Scald is standard fare; however, Empoleon also has access to Stealth Rock, giving it a niche among bulky Water-types. One might think that this makes Empoleon destined to be yet another bulky Water-type, but this is simply not the case. Its typing goes a long way offensively as well, making it an excellent pivot and setup sweeper. An above average Special Attack stat and powerful attacks, such as Hydro Pump and Ice Beam, give Empoleon the tools it needs to succeed on an offensive front. All is not sunshine and daisies for Empoleon, however, quite the contrary to be frank. Unfortunately, it is slow and is outsped by common Choice Scarf users, such as Terrakion and Landorus, even after an Agility boost. Weaknesses to common Ground-, Fighting-, and Electric-type attacks do it no favors, and unlike most bulky Water-types, it takes neutral damage from Fire Blast. Despite these setbacks, Empoleon has many positive attributes, which it can abuse to become one of the great kings of the deep sea.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Grass Knot / Hidden Power Grass
move 4: Surf
item: Choice Specs
ability: Torrent
nature: Modest
evs: 200 HP / 252 SpA / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>As previously mentioned, Empoleon has a sizable Special Attack stat that it can put to good use with a Choice Specs set. This set takes advantage of everything that Empoleon can do, and is not outclassed by other Water-type special attackers, such as Keldeo, thanks to its Steel typing and stellar defenses. On the topic of its Steel typing, it grants Empoleon numerous opportunities to switch in thanks to its many resistances. This makes Empoleon one of the best pivots around, as one can simply switch it in on any resisted attack and launch a powerful Hydro Pump. Fear not if Empoleon gets worn down, as Torrent will make it even more of a threat, boosting the power of Empoleon's STAB Water-type attacks when it is low on health. Perhaps the most notable of the attack that it can switch in on is Tornadus-T's Hurricane, one of the biggest and baddest attacks present in OU. Its immunity to Toxic prevents the Gastrodon and Vaporeon of the world from stalling it out, which is a huge advantage over other Water-type attackers. Additionally, Empoleon obtains lots of momentum by forcing its opposition out, which can be a deciding factor in many battles.</p>

<p>The attacks on this set are very straightforward; Hydro Pump is the powerful STAB move of choice, powering through all but the bulkiest of resists and the pink blobs Chansey and Blissey. Its damage output is low when compared to the monstrous Keldeo, but it is still extraordinarily powerful and makes almost all Pokemon pay the price if they switch in to it. Ice Beam occupies the second moveslot and provides much-needed coverage on Dragon- and Grass-type Pokemon, especially important for the former because Empoleon makes an excellent switch-in to their primary STAB attacks. A choice of Grass-type move is then presented so that Empoleon can get past its Water-type brethren; Grass Knot hits Jellicent and Politoed harder, but Hidden Power Grass hits Rotom-W, Gastrodon, and Vaporeon harder. The choice is yours, though it should be noted that if anything besides a Water-type switches in, in most cases Grass Knot will do more damage, making it the preferred choice. Lastly, Surf is there mainly as filler, but is quite useful if you want to hit hard with a STAB move but at the same time have perfect accuracy for when it is undesirable to miss.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Since Empoleon's main claim-to-fame as a Choice Specs user is its bulk, quite a bit of EVs are dumped into its HP stat. Maximum investment in Special Attack is used to ensure that Empoleon hits as hard as it can, supplemented by a Modest nature. 56 Speed EVs allows Empoleon to outrun 8 Speed Scizor Vaporeon. With that aside, it is immediately apparent that Ferrothorn is an issue. Hidden Power Fire is a viable option to beat Ferrothorn&mdash;however, it deals lackluster damage to anything else, which is important because most teams will have other switch-ins that take pittance from Hidden Power Fire.</p>

<p>The first piece of information that must be considered when attempting to support Empoleon is what types of teams it fits into. While it might seem like this Empoleon is best suited for bulky offense and balance teams, the reality is that it works excellently on heavy offense, providing said teams with some much-needed bulk and a handy pivot. Rain might seem extremely important, but the reality is that Empoleon already hits hard enough and increasing the amount of Pokemon weak to Thundurus-T's STAB is not desirable. This makes Deoxys-D an obvious partner, specifically suicide lead variants, as it can carry Psycho Boost, which hits one of Empoleon's premier counters, Tentacruel hard. The entry hazards that Deoxys-D sets up are invaluable because of the many switches that Choice Specs-boosted STAB Hydro Pump forces. Empoleon makes an excellent member of a Fire-Water-Grass core, specifically one with Heatran and Celebi, as they boast amazing type synergy together. Heatran roasts Ferrothorn, a roadblock for Empoleon, and can set up Stealth Rock, and beats specially defensive Jirachi. Celebi beats bulky Water-types, another roadblock to Empoleon, which are troublesome despite the fact that it carries a Grass-type attack. It also provides a decent switch-in to Thundurus-T and resists Ground-type attacks. Another option over Celebi is Roserade, which sets up Toxic Spikes that Empoleon can utilize to defeat Blissey and Chansey thanks to its immunity to Toxic. However, Roserade cannot switch in on Fighting- and Ground-type attacks, so Celebi is usually the superior choice. If not running Heatran or another Fire-type, a trapper, such as Magnezone or Gothitelle, or a lure, such as Expert Belt Salamence, is recommended to get rid of Ferrothorn. A fast Wish passer, such as Latias, can be used if wanted to heal off some of the damage that Empoleon takes from switching into entry hazards and resisted attacks repeatedly. Lastly—and bear with me on this—it is an excellent abuser of Gravity, possessing the bulk, power, and resistances central to the strategy's success and benefiting by gaining a perfectly accurate Hydro Pump.</p>

[SET]
name: SubPetaya
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Agility
move 3: Surf
move 4: Ice Beam / Grass Knot
item: Petaya Berry
ability: Torrent
nature: Modest / Timid
evs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Nostalgia fans, meet DPP Empoleon, BW style. It's barely changed since last generation, with the same playstyle and the same potential devastation that it can cause if played correctly. History aside, this set has a very straightforward setup process: switch in on one of Empoleon's numerous resistances, set up three Substitutes and obtain a +1 boost courtesy of its Petaya Berry, set up an Agility at some point during this time, and proceed to smash apart its opposition. By the end of this process, it hits like a nuke and outspeeds +1 Dragonite. In short, over the course of a relatively simple 4 to 5 turns, Empoleon is ready to go.</p>

<p>The attacks on this set are relatively simple—Surf is powerful enough after a Petaya Berry boost and rain, and one Hydro Pump miss could doom Empoleon because of the low amount of health required to activate its item. Additionally, it will be Torrent-boosted as well in Petaya Berry range, so rest assured Surf hits more than hard enough. The choice of coverage move mainly depends on what Empoleon's teammates can KO; Ice Beam hits Dragon- and Grass-types super effectively, such as Dragonite, Celebi, Latios, Latias, and Venusaur, and hits Toxicroak for neutral damage. Alternatively, Grass Knot can be used to hit Jellicent, Gyarados, Kingdra, Politoed, and Gastrodon hard, but outside of those immune to Surf, Surf does more than enough damage in rain, rendering Grass Knot an inferior option. For an exact Base Power, resisted Surf in rain with a Torrent boost has 160 Base Power, which is more than adequate to hit these Pokemon.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The given EVs may seem complex, but they serve a purpose. 12 HP EVs makes Empoleon's HP stat divisible by 4, which means that it will only take 3 Substitutes from full health to activate Petaya Berry. 240 Speed EVs are enough to outrun +1 Jolly Gyarados, as however rare it may be, there is no use moving what would amount to 4 EVs elsewhere. Maximum investment in Special Attack ensures the largest possible damage output. A Modest nature is preferred to supplement this power, but Timid is equally viable—it allows Empoleon to outspeed Choice Scarf Rotom-W, Choice Scarf Haxorus, Choice Scarf Genesect, and Choice Scarf Salamence after an Agility boost, which is important because all of them could otherwise stomp all over Empoleon.</p>

<p>On the topic of moves, Hydro Pump is a viable alternative to Surf, hitting significantly harder, but it gains few notable KOs and has an unreliable 80% accuracy, and at the low range of health that Empoleon must be at to activate Petaya Berry, a miss could be the difference between an Empoleon sweep and a dead Empoleon. Hidden Power Grass might seem optimal to hit Keldeo, Rotom-W, Gastrodon, and Vaporeon harder, but in all honesty, as the former two are hit hard enough by rain-boosted Surf, it only really matters for the latter two, and Grass Knot does more damage to Jellicent, who is more common than Gastrodon and especially Vaporeon. An alternative item could be Salac Berry, which allows Empoleon to outspeed Choice Scarf Keldeo, Choice Scarf Terrakion, Choice Scarf Thundurus-T, Choice Scarf Genesect, and Choice Scarf Landorus. The lack of power can be remedied by a Pokemon to Baton Pass it Special Attack boosts, such as Mew or Celebi.</p>

<p>While not completely necessary, rain from Politoed is extraordinarily helpful, allowing Empoleon to achieve many KOs that could make or break its sweep. Despite this set's massive power set up, Pokemon with the ability Sturdy or that hold a Focus Sash spell doom for it. As you obviously want Empoleon to sweep unhindered, Deoxys-D, Ferrothorn, or Forretress is recommended to set up entry hazards. Additionally, Tentacruel or Roserade can set up Toxic Spikes, which are helpful to break through bulky Water-types if running Ice Beam and to stall out Blissey and Chansey. Whatever coverage move is chosen obviously leaves Empoleon open to something. If running Ice Beam, a Pokemon that can defeat bulky Water-types, such as Celebi or Thundurus-T, is needed. If running Grass Knot, a Pokemon such as Mamoswine or Choice Scarf Salamence is needed to defeat Dragon- and Grass-types. There are two more partners that should be considered. The first is the often overlooked Weavile, who has the unique ability of being able to both remove opposing Grass- and Dragon-types and trap Latios, Latias, Jellicent, and Celebi, which is quite useful for Empoleon. The second is Gothitelle, as its trapping abilities are extremely helpful. It can trap and kill Celebi if it runs Signal Beam, Ferrothorn if it runs Hidden Power Fire, Breloom with its STAB Psychic-type attack, and Blissey and Chansey with Psyshock. Additionally, its STAB hits Poison-types super effectively, most importantly the grounded ones that can absorb the beneficial Toxic Spikes. Gothitelle can have its moveset put together for any and all of your trapping needs, and with the right moveset is a huge benefactor in an Empoleon sweep.</p>

[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Scald
move 3: Toxic / Roar
move 4: Protect / Ice Beam
item: Leftovers
ability: Torrent
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 44 Def / 216 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While Empoleon's other sets are based on showcasing its offensive capabilities, this set takes advantage of its excellent defensive typing to make a solid special wall. Empoleon's unique Steel typing among bulky Water-types gives it the capacity to switch into powerful special attacks such as Draco Meteor, Hydro Pump, Hurricane, and Blizzard. It should be specifically mentioned how amazing of a switch-in it is for Tornadus-T's Hurricane, taking pittance from an attack that blows numerous OU Pokemon off the map. Its typing also gives it resistances to both of Scizor's STAB moves, making it an excellent check to the infernal metal bug. Unlike its bulky Water-type brethren, it is immune to Toxic, the bane of Gastrodon and Jellicent everywhere.</p>

<p>Scald is an incredibly useful tool for Empoleon, giving it the ability to take on strong physical attackers due to its high burn chance. Thanks to STAB, it prevents frail sweepers, such as Gengar and Alakazam, from taking their sweet time to set up on Empoleon. Protect enables Empoleon to scout for super effective attacks, such as Choice Scarf Rotom-W's Volt Switch and Tornadus-T's Superpower, as well as providing an extra turn of Leftovers recovery, which helps compensate for its lack of reliable recovery, and racking up Toxic damage. Speaking of Toxic, it allows Empoleon to beat opposing bulky Water-types and wears down Life Orb sweepers, especially when combined with sandstorm damage, very quickly. It is also a huge help against Substitute + Calm Mind Latias. Alternatively, Roar can be used to prevent Calm Mind Reuniclus and Latias from using Empoleon as setup fodder, while also spreading entry hazard damage. Ice Beam is a viable option over Protect to aid in the defeat of Dragonite and Salamence, both having their primary STAB resisted by Empoleon. Last up is the ace in the hole, Stealth Rock. Give me one bulky Water-type that has Stealth Rock. If you can name one, I can guarantee that it has no place on that Pokemon's moveset. With Empoleon, this is not the case, as it is not cramped for moveslots and has numerous opportunities to set up Stealth Rock.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs are simple—to start off, 248 HP EVs ensure that Empoleon takes minimal damage from Stealth Rock and Leech Seed. The Defense EVs are invested so that Empoleon can better handle Dragon Dance Dragonite and Salamence, while the remaining EVs are placed in Special Defense to bolster Empoleon's ability to handle special attackers. Some EVs that are invested into the defenses can be moved to Speed for Scizor, Skarmory, Tyranitar, and Jellicent. A Grass-type attack might be desired to hit opposing Water-types because of the ease with which Empoleon switches into them, with Grass Knot being mostly superior but Hidden Power Grass hitting Rotom-W, Keldeo, and Gastrodon harder. However, Toxic is more effective in the long run, as Jellicent and Gastrodon have reliable recovery to heal off any damage taken from Grass Knot or Hidden Power Grass. Yawn is an alternative to Roar for a sort of psuedo-phazing move, and is deadly with BW's sleep mechanics. On the other hand, Substitute users, such as Dragonite and Latias, cannot be beaten with Yawn, thus Roar is preferred.</p>

<p>Due to its weaknesses to common physical attacks and lack of much investment in Defense, a partner that can take them is needed. Gliscor in particular stands out, boasting perfect type synergy with Empoleon and benefiting from the burns that Empoleon spreads to handle physical attackers even better. Due to its lack of reliable recovery, a Wish passer is useful. Xatu is a good candidate, having excellent type synergy outside of their shared weakness to Electric-type attacks. Lastly, something to sponge special Electric- and Fighting-type attacks, such as Thunder, Secret Sword, and Focus Blast, is needed. Good choices for the job include Celebi and Latias.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>When wielding a Choice Scarf, Empoleon outspeeds all of unboosted OU below Starmie, but it is straight up outclassed by Keldeo and is pretty weak as well. A Swords Dance set is possible, with attacks such as Earthquake, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, Drill Peck, Return, and Avalanche being viable offensive options; however, base 86 Attack is disappointing and Empoleon cannot break through physical walls without rain and heavy entry hazard support. Gyarados and Feraligatr outclass it, making it even less desirable. Rain Dance could see use to support a rain team and to become a more self-sufficient sweeper, but the loss of valuable coverage or a setup move makes it difficult to find room for. Blizzard should be used over Ice Beam if you have hail support. Defiant, Empoleon's Dream World ability, might seem viable, but in reality Empoleon's inability to use its mediocre Attack stat well makes it inferior to Torrent, which provides a more useful boost to Empoleon's primary STAB. Flash Cannon should be mentioned in passing, as while it is a STAB move it lacks any additional coverage. Wrapping up, a Agility + 3 attacks set is very viable for the extra coverage move, and although it lacks protection from priority and a power boost, this is made up for by the ability to handle a wider variety of threats.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>While it is very threatening, Empoleon does have its hard counters. Ferrothorn is the best one, as although boosted Ice Beams do a decent amount, even SubPetaya will not win, as Leech Seed can catch it off guard while it sets up Agility and Power Whip breaks its Substitutes. Blissey and Chansey, also known as the pink blobs, have extraordinary special bulk that allows them to check offensive sets, but their vulnerability to Toxic makes them unreliable against defensive variants and SubPetaya with Toxic Spikes support. Rotom-W is a decent answer to Empoleon, resisting its STAB, Ice Beam, and taking little damage from Grass Knot due to its low weight, but it must be wary of Hidden Power Grass. It can retaliate with STAB Volt Switch or Thunderbolt. Bulky Water-types in general do well against offensive variants of Empoleon, though Empoleon's immunity to Toxic means that only those running super effective attacks, such as Hidden Power Electric Vaporeon, can actually kill it; otherwise they must rely on the slow, painful process of wearing it down with burns from Scald. However, depending on Empoleon's choice of Grass-type move, they might be taken down as well.</p>

<p>Moving on from the more reliable responses to Empoleon, there are quite a few ways to check it. Trappers, more specifically Dugtrio and Magnezone, outspeed, make Empoleon unable to switch out, and have super effective STAB moves which they can utilize to KO it. However, they cannot switch into Empoleon's STAB and are non-issues with an Agility boost. Thundurus-T can only switch in on Grass Knot or Hidden Power Grass, but its powerful STAB Thunder in rain fries Empoleon so completely that it turns back into a Piplup, with Modest Empoleon being unable to outspeed Choice Scarf variants at +2. Genesect is similar, and without a Timid nature Choice Scarf variants will still outspeed, allowing it to hit back hard with a super effective Thunderbolt or Thunder. Lastly, Technician Breloom's Mach Punch is an excellent check, as Breloom resists Empoleon's STAB and can use Bullet Seed on a predicted Substitute, as well as completely walling SubPetaya variants lacking Ice Beam. Generally, the best way to beat Empoleon is to exploit its low Speed stat and rather unfortunate set of weaknesses, and stopping its momentum will condemn it to the sea, unable to rise ever again.</p>


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Thanks Oglemi, your check is implemented except for in the first AC, where you said to take out 8 Speed Scizor and replace it with Vaporeon, I just put standard Scizor and Vaporeon. The reasoning for that is because running Speed EVs to outrun Vaporeon admittedly sounds pretty useless to me at least when you don't see it very much at all. Scizor, on the other hand, is well worth outspeeding. Just trying to not be misleading/be complete/et cetera.

Oh and in OO, your second change, you accidentally put "a Agility + 3 attacks set" instead of "an Agility + 3 attacks set".

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Outspeeding 8 Speed Scizor is Speed creep, hence why I changed it to Vaporeon since that's the reason Scizor runs 8 Speed. That or you have to find something else to outspeed.
 

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