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Favorite non-ubers you use in ubers.

Discussion in 'BW Ubers' started by Mr_br_kill, Jun 12, 2011.

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  1. Mr_br_kill


    Jun 7, 2010
    What are your favorite ou, uu or even ru pokemon to use in ubers. Please post effective pokemons that have a purpose, so don't post luvdisk and friends.
    I've enjoyed scarfed adamant reckless Staraptor and banded scisor.
  2. Farewell


    Jul 4, 2008
    Abomasnow: Leftovers
    252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    (+SpD, - Spe)
    Snow Warning

    Wood Hammer
    Leech Seed

    Slow enough to control weather, defensive move set to make-up for lack of defensive stats, just high enough base power to make-up for lack of offensive stats. Blizzard Dragons and Flying types, Wood Hammer other weather starters.

    Protect is great for scouting Choiced foes, and stalls Leech Seed, Leftovers, and Hail. Protect makes up for a lot of Abomasnow's stats.

    Abomasnow encourages Kyurem on your team, and allows for a few other Blizzard users like Mewtwo. Abomasnow's purpose is to prevent weather working on your opponent's favor, while also chipping away at your foe's HP.
  3. Harlock


    Mar 20, 2010
    Could you explain that set please? I really don't see how that set would be effective in Ubers.
  4. Mr_br_kill


    Jun 7, 2010
    With reckless and adamant nature it reachs an atk stat of 446. It has the power to 2hko all offensive ubers pokemon. Like doing 75-91% to specs kyorge and ohkos darkrai with rocks for exemple. With a scarf he outspeeds all non scarfed users. It's great revenge killer. I've had lots of success using it and I recommend you try it.
  5. Electro Gypsy

    Electro Gypsy

    May 11, 2010
    I've had success with a Sub Punching TTar to break down key pokemon in uber stall teams for my CM Kyogre + Giratina-O offensive team. It usually got in on Chansey/Blissey and -2 Choiced Dracos. From there, nothing but Groudon switched in safely. It would be more effective when the Latis are given back their soul dew, as their usage would surely rise. From there i'm particularly fond of Ferrothorn as a defensive pivot, and check to such a huge variety of problematic pokemon such as Zekrom, Lugia, and Palkia, as well as luring in pokemon like Blaziken and paralyzing them with a well timed Twave.
  6. shrang

    shrang Draw me... like one of your human girls
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    Jul 24, 2009
    I think most Ubers players know how much I love Tyranitar in Ubers. Simple set I'm running:

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 SpD
    Nature: Brave / Adamant
    - Crunch
    - Pursuit
    - Low Kick
    - Ice Beam / Stealth Rock

    This will be even more effective when Soul Dew and Shadow Tag Chandelure is released, but so far, you can take down stuff like Giratina-O and Lugia with it. Mixed Giratina-O is removed by Pursuit or Crunch, since it really can't do anything back to you, while Lugia can sometimes be taken out by Def drops from Crunch followed by Pursuit. Low Kick deals a lot of damage to Dialga, while I used Ice Beam because Gliscor is a piece of shit.
  7. polop

    is a Contributor Alumnus

    Apr 29, 2011
    Tentacruel actually has a purpose in ubers but no one seems to use it. It's the only fast thing that can use toxic spikes and has insane sp def.

    Tentacruel@ black sludge
    Ability: rain dish
    Evs: 252 hp/ 252 sp def/ 4 def
    Nature: calm
    - knock off/ confuse ray
    - scald
    - toxic spikes
    - rapid spin

    This thing can absorb special blows and still have quite a bit of hp left. It can easily set up toxic spikes on a scarfer locked into a neutral special attack that isn't draco meteor. Knock off screws over every chansey and blissey in the game (to an extent every poke) but confuse ray can offer you more time to set up. Scald can burn things so that it isnt complete set up bait. Rapid spin enables it to win 1 vs 1 between it and forry.
  8. mamoswineFTW


    Sep 23, 2010
    I used Shuckle as a wall for a good 2 months (though now replaced by Eviolite-Chansey), and also as a phazer Scrafty. This guy gets to 300 in both Defensive stats with the right investment, can absorb status with SS and phaze with Dragon Tail. Winner!
  9. TM13IceBeam


    Oct 22, 2010
    Specially defensive Scizor is quite awesome really. I run SD/Roost/Bullet Punch/Bug Bite and its fun to setup in the face of random things like Darkrai and Skymin. Also, setting up in the face of Draco Meteor is just... AWESOME.

    Forretress is also excellent, providing spin/hazard support, but all I can say about Forry is...

    fuck you Giratina.
  10. Ninjadolphin


    Sep 4, 2010
    My favorite is definately:
    bold Registeel@leftovers
    252 def, 253 hp, 5 sp def
    seismic toss
    stealth rock
    Dual status registeel is excellent at shutting down nearly all offensive threats in ubers, and it can stall out a lot of things with toxic+s-toss
  11. IcyMan28


    Sep 18, 2008
    ^I would rather use Jirachi, Registeel is essentially dead weight and will lose to anything with 101 Subs (a good bit).
  12. Focus

    Focus Ubers Tester Extraordinaire

    May 27, 2010
    My favorite pokemon to use when I am in the trolling mood is this little thing:

    Whimsicott @ Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
    Bold (+Def, -Atk)

    -Leech Seed
    -Stun Spore / Memento

    Bring it in on something, use Encore on a set-up move or a weak-enough attack, get behind a sub, then have the time of your life. Whimsicott is one mean subseeder. Priority on all four of these moves is simply divine. It is surprisingly beefy with maximum investment in the Defense stat, letting it take on most purely physical threats like a champ (though it does not like facing Extremekiller too much). Not only can this thing subseed, Whimsicott is great at helping to stop a potentially disastrous sweep from Mewtwo, Darkrai, or whatever. Either slow your opponents to a crawl with Stun Spore or cripple a pokemon with Memento in a pinch.
  13. guanlong


    Dec 10, 2010
    In the past I used Specially Defensive Scizor as a defensive pivot with Palkia, and as a revenge killer for Darkrai (after Sleep Clause) and slightly weakened Deoxys-A. Bullet Punch didn't OHKO, but Deoxys-A rarely carries HP Fire, allowing Scizor to beat it easily. It served my team well, especially when I was using Arceus-Fighting, but I've since replaced it with Arceus-Steel, who beats the Extreme Killer (Scizor was walled by it), is far bulkier, and can actually take unSTAB Fire Blasts.

    However, if your team can't use an Arceus, I would recommend Scizor. It beats a pretty wide variety of Ubers, such as Mewtwo without Fire attacks, Deoxys-A without HP Fire, and Darkrai once Sleep Clause is activated. Arceus can only beat Deoxys-A by switching to a strong physically defensive Pokemon (like Groudon) to sponge the Superpower, then switch back in to kill Deoxys-A. Scizor doesn't have such trouble with Deoxys-A.
  14. verycoolguy


    Dec 1, 2009
    I love using Tornadus in teams with Kyogre.

    Tornadus@Life Orb
    252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 filler

    Grass Knot
    Hammer Arm/Focus Blast

    Tornadus is such a good teammate for Kyogre since it is almost like a pure anti-Groudon. It can switch in on Earthquakes, and OHKO most of them with Grass Knot, so the sun threat is cleared. Hurricane is its main STAB which greatly damages anything that doesn't resist it. And there's Tailwind which basically gives itself or any other teammate a 2-3 turn sweep.
  15. TM13IceBeam


    Oct 22, 2010
    If Ampharos has no defense boosts, any Groudon with minimum investment in Attack will insta-floor it with EQ. Support Groudon, the one Groudon you'll most likely see with the lowest attack, still OHKO's it with EQ.

    On the other hand, Signal Beam does like 18% to Groudon. I don't need to say about a resisted Power Gem.

    ScarfOgre, one of the biggest threats in the meta, 2HKOs with Water Spout. SpecsOgre has a chance to outright KO.

    Basically, Ampharos isn't really the best thing to use in ubers. Despite a decent amount of special bulk its not going to be able to weather up to strong and powerful attacks.
  16. VaporeonIce


    Mar 11, 2010
    Because there are a million other Pokemon with way better defensive stats, who can actually do something offensively? Because everything and its mother can just set up Substitutes and Calm Minds in your face? Because trying to wall without giving yourself the ability to kill things, phaze, or recover HP is suicide in Ubers?
  17. Dark Prince Raven

    Dark Prince Raven

    Jan 22, 2011
    Thundurus is great for killing Groudons too, it also has priority Thunder Wave and Taunt, making it a great lead.
  18. breh

    breh 強いだね

    Feb 6, 2010
    I enjoyed using SpD heatran to sponge DMs on a sun team. Lava Plume is hilarious when it burns palkia in the sun since it can't do anything in return.
  19. fatsnorlax


    Jun 18, 2011
    I've used a couple that were pretty good:

    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Ability: Serene Grace
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 252hp/40def/216Sdef
    -Stealth Rock
    -Iron Head

    Jirachi's cheap hax strategy is very effective. It's also quite bulky, allowing it to get up rocks nicely.

    Salamence @ Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 252atk/4Satk/252spd
    -Dragon Dance
    -Fire Blast

    Not as effective as Raichi, but can sometimes help clean up whatever mess his buddy, Rayquaza started.

    -pics handdrawn by Aaragornbird
  20. alphatron

    alphatron Volt turn in every tier! I'm in despair!

    Oct 5, 2010
    Jumpluff. Fastest sleep inducer during sunlight. Fastest cleric in a pinch. Immune to toxic spikes. Fast momento for when I need to set up. Has actually saved my weakened team from being destroyed by deo-a and is my go to guy for when giratina shows up.

    Then again, I'm relatively sucky at ubers.
  21. polop

    is a Contributor Alumnus

    Apr 29, 2011
    Actually whimsicoot is faster then jumpluff at mementoing and sleeping but he's not immune to toxic spikes.

    I've used gravity chansey on one of my stall teams and being able to poison the likes of giratina and lugia with toxic spikes was always fun. Also gengar is actually a usable spin blocker lol. Subbing up on forry and threatening him or all the spinners with focus miss or hp fire, and thunderbolt is always just hilarious. It even beats tentacruel with specs thunderbolt .
  22. Pika25


    Mar 30, 2007
    Mr.lol, Gengar needs STAB Shadow Ball. I'm assuming you are switching around focus blast and hp-fire. Shadow ball is the best option for the myriad psychics that show up, such as Mewtwo. And yes, Whimsicott with Prankster Ability may be used in any weather (although it needs its leftovers to cancel out damage from sand or the rarely seen hail).

    Obviously this gen's ubers is pretty much weather spamming. If Kyogre is the summoner, I would obviously go the top three swift swimmers (Ludicolo, Kabutops, Kingdra) or maybe someone like Lanturn. Pikachu with Light Ball might be an option, at least if given the speed boosts first, as it is really frail compared to the ubers, and is under the base 90 speed tier, the same as Groudon, Kyogre and company. If it's Groudon, the obvious options are the Chlorophyll sweepers. Yes I am talking to you, Venusaur! Also obvious are the big fire attackers, such as Volcarona and Darmanitan. What if it's another weather? First thing I think of is the Tyranitar to Excadrill combo, especially if Excadrill carries X-scissor for those random psychics. And Jolly to out-speed stuff like Scarf Chomp.
  23. TM13IceBeam


    Oct 22, 2010
    Nitpick: Adamant Excadrill outspeeds Scarfchomp under sand.
  24. Shiki1335


    Jul 30, 2011
    2 pokes I use cause other then that my sister will sweep me.
    Lum berry scizor takes out Darkrai with little trouble.
    MY own verison of breeloom.
  25. No. 1 Machop Fan

    No. 1 Machop Fan

    Aug 25, 2010
    I have to answer Shedinja! It's fun to force panic attacks and forfeits when I send it into battle! >:D
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