At best, it's optional. At worst, it's Navi in Rotom form.
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Gen VII: Pokémon Sun and Moon (New info Post #5834)
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What's with them making the es? Dodging it from Espeon?
Unless there's Ghost version of Acrobatics, yeah... she's going to possibly the only cover legendary sunk to something around NU. :<
I feel cheated. Psy/Gst looks plausible, but this is just....
... sorry, a little salted lately.
Plugging it into the calculator really quick; for a Level 50 Pokémon to have 212 HP with a 0 IV in HP and 0 HP EVs, then at the lowest, it's Base HP would be 152
Gengar is weak to Psychic so it could be that too, hopefully it isn't though lol!
True, I forgot about that. But ghost is a safe bet. Do any legendaries have a signature move that isn't the same type as themselves?
It could also mean that they can stuff all the handholding away in the rotomdex so NPCs don't have to tell you everything any more.
Well, there are plenty of Pokemon with 4x weaknesses. I mean all you have to do is take Hoopa and give it a good speed stat and I guarantee you that it would also be Uber. So, I'd give it a shot until we see the stats.
As much as I dislike easier Pokemon games, I have to admit I don't see a certain amount of this as being a problem. I bought Omega Ruby for my seven year old cousin, and while he "got" battles and items and catching, when it comes to figuring out what is essentially a series of fetch quests, he was pretty stumped. Mostly because he can't be bothered to a) read b) talk to npcs and c) go back and do all of that again when he gets stuck/forgets what he's doing, but even so, a Rotom Dex might streamline this particular experience for kids in a similar position.
As long as it's optional, or non-intrusive..
I hope that we can turn it off
Damn, I'm so pissed by the typings of the legends. Mega pyroar might stand a chance in ubers as a mence+xerno check, but magearna might do that better and lunala really needs to have a ridiculous amount of bst to be effective. Literally ghost+anything else but psychic would have been good, I thought that gamefreak learned something from hoopa...
Anyways the rotodex is so cool, hope we could use that in battle as well.
Anyways the rotodex is so cool, hope we could use that in battle as well.
The Gengar in the video has 120 HP which is only possible with 0 IVs and EVs, so could be plausible.
With this I hope their lore justifies their typing. Maybe we will have lots of supernatural things in the storyline.
Honestly Solgaleo looks like it would be the "Slow but Bulky" type compared to Lunala. So, Base 152 HP sounds...reasonable.
Well, well, well... quite interesting news we got today.
Solgaleo with Full MetalAlchemist Body and Sunsteel Strike: I certainly would have never expected that typing. I could have expected things like Fire or Electric, but Psychic/Steel? I guess its rather metallic body makes sense, now. Regarding its Ability, it is essentially a Clear Body clone. I have nothing against it. If all, he could be a decent physical sweeper that doesn't fear Intimidate, especially if Sunsteel Strike is a Steel-type attack. Though, Sunsteel Strike... I wonder if it will become the Steel version of Sacred Fire. considering that the move seems to engulf Solgaleo in flames (which is kinda ironic, considering its typing).
Lunala with Shadow Shield and Moongeist Beam: Psychic/Ghost, huh? I personally would have preferred Fairy/Ghost, since it could have made it a perfect counterpart of Solgaleo (Ghost beats Psychic, Steel beats Fairy), but the typing is still cool. Also, Shadow Shield being a Multiscale clone should make it quite durable despite the double weakness to Dark and Ghost. Hopefully it will get a healing move to make good use of its Ability. Perhaps Moonlight? Regarding its signature attack, it seems that it will be a Ghost-type move, judging by the name. I wonder if it will have additional effects...
Rotom Pokedex: Oh, wow, yet another unexpected thing! A new Rotom form! It would be nice if it could be used for battles as well. Maybe it could get Electric/Steel as a typing, in case it could be used to fight? However, it seems to be able to communicate with the player... I wonder what other things it can doand how it will be adapted in the anime.
Alola: The region is bigger than how it first appeared, that's for sure. I love the fact that it is divided in multiple islands. In fact, I wonder if you will have to use ferries or ships to move between them, at least at the beginning.
Human Characters: I would like to learn a few more things about them first, but I personally really like them, especially the professor. The assistant had a quite serious expression in the artwork, so I wonder if she is overall serious or reserved as a character. The kid, instead, has been defined as "friend" rather than "cousin" like in the other trailer. So, maybe the term cousin is more used as the typical Hawaiian term rather than used to indicate him as being blood-related to the protagonist.
Solgaleo with Full Metal
Lunala with Shadow Shield and Moongeist Beam: Psychic/Ghost, huh? I personally would have preferred Fairy/Ghost, since it could have made it a perfect counterpart of Solgaleo (Ghost beats Psychic, Steel beats Fairy), but the typing is still cool. Also, Shadow Shield being a Multiscale clone should make it quite durable despite the double weakness to Dark and Ghost. Hopefully it will get a healing move to make good use of its Ability. Perhaps Moonlight? Regarding its signature attack, it seems that it will be a Ghost-type move, judging by the name. I wonder if it will have additional effects...
Rotom Pokedex: Oh, wow, yet another unexpected thing! A new Rotom form! It would be nice if it could be used for battles as well. Maybe it could get Electric/Steel as a typing, in case it could be used to fight? However, it seems to be able to communicate with the player... I wonder what other things it can do
Alola: The region is bigger than how it first appeared, that's for sure. I love the fact that it is divided in multiple islands. In fact, I wonder if you will have to use ferries or ships to move between them, at least at the beginning.
Human Characters: I would like to learn a few more things about them first, but I personally really like them, especially the professor. The assistant had a quite serious expression in the artwork, so I wonder if she is overall serious or reserved as a character. The kid, instead, has been defined as "friend" rather than "cousin" like in the other trailer. So, maybe the term cousin is more used as the typical Hawaiian term rather than used to indicate him as being blood-related to the protagonist.
Well, actually, once the attack struck Salamence, it immediately said that Salamence fainted, without showing the "it's not very effective" part (which always happens before the Pokemon faints). So, I think the attack hit neutrally.
Oh shit, Pokemon Sun and Moon and Pokemon Go are confirmed for Treehouse Live, guess we are getting Pokemon at E3 afterall!
https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/738362050192117761
https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/738362050192117761
Hopefully. Being a (massive) bat, she should have great speed to match. But two double weakness still makes me a bit pessimistic about her in Ubers.
I'll just hope the main villain won't use Ghost or Dark Pokemon just to laugh at Lunala when we faced them.
I'm going to assume it's a more rounded number - either 140, 145 or 150 - but yeah.
Japanese trailer dropped; this gives us a nice look at the 'dex and Pokémon center.
Manaphy has Heart Swap and Tail Glow. The latter was exclusive to it in the generation it was introduced in, and I believe Heart Swap is still unique to Manaphy.
Gosh I was hoping Lunaala (whatever, I like spelling this way) would be something like Ghost/Fairy, Or Dark/Fairy D:
I don't really play competitive but 2 double weaknesses is kinda ugh. But being a moon pokemon, at least we know it will get Moonlight, so that hope that nice Multiscale clone isn't wasted ;(
I don't really play competitive but 2 double weaknesses is kinda ugh. But being a moon pokemon, at least we know it will get Moonlight, so that hope that nice Multiscale clone isn't wasted ;(
Oh that's neat. It acts like a GPS too giving us that overhead look we're no longer really going to have in this game.
I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that Lunala's signature move is Ghost. Psychic is a shared type between the legendaries so unless Sunsteel Strike is also Psychic - with a name that literally has Steel in it when it's a steel-type 'mon - and Dark is the only type it could be that isn't one of Lunala's. So yeah, Ghost is a pretty good bet.
Also gosh, there's so much negativity about the typings. They're fine typings and if you're slagging off Ghost/Psychic because Hoopa-U isn't good in Ubers then I'm not entirely sure why you know Hoopa-U isn't good in ubers.
Also gosh, there's so much negativity about the typings. They're fine typings and if you're slagging off Ghost/Psychic because Hoopa-U isn't good in Ubers then I'm not entirely sure why you know Hoopa-U isn't good in ubers.
Well I can honestly say I did not predict Solgaleo's typing at all. Guess it really was a Zoids lion after all.
Edit: Also noticed the Salamance still has his flying battle sprite. I was kind of hoping the Sky Battle "everything must fly" models would get replaced. For Xatu's sake (amongst others).
Edit: Also noticed the Salamance still has his flying battle sprite. I was kind of hoping the Sky Battle "everything must fly" models would get replaced. For Xatu's sake (amongst others).
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I doubt either move is Psychic type, considering that's the type both of them share. To differentiate the two moves, I think they're going to be the secondary types of each of the legendaries, Steel and Ghost, like how Fusion Flare/Fusion Bolt and Blue Flare/Bolt Strike were. Makes sense when you consider they are called Sunsteel Strike and Moongeist Beam.
TL;DR if it's a Psychic move I'll eat my hat.
EDIT: Greninja'd hardcore by Kurona .
ALRIGHT, Super Map Analysis time!
- There seem to be many boats traveling around, these will probably be our main mode of transportation before surf
- Alongside the four main islands (Which I will call One, Two, Three, and Four) there also seems to be two smaller islands (to the left of One and to the right of Three.)
- There also seems to be a strange white "island" in the center, likely the location of the elite four?
- There is a LOT of Water, so hopefully we get some water diversity
- ISLAND ONE: Seems very desert-y and rocky, many of the scenes from the last trailer seem to take place here. There is one visible Pokemon center and a stairway leading to a grey plateau. Could this be where we meet our legendaries? There also seems to be a lava-rock area with geysers. Surprisingly, no real visible towns past the little port area.
- ISLAND TWO: This has been analyzed, as it is the island from the previous trailer. Most likely where we'll start.
- ISLAND THREE: The lower island seems to have an airport and a lighthouse. The main island has many towns and cities with large, fancy houses. Weird water structures. There seem to be 6 Pokemon Centers here, so it's likely a large portion of our adventure will take place on Islands Three and Four.
- ISLAND FOUR: A large, walled in area up top which could also be the elite four. Tall mountains with icy areas up top and a Pokemon center, likely meaning there will be an Ice-type or Dragon-type gym up there. A bit in from the left center there seems to be a circular area of some sort, though it is unclear what this could be for. 5 Pokemon centers and even more towns.
- There seem to be many closed off watery areas around the islands. This could mean that we can only surf in those areas and cannot actually surf between the islands, but that seems somewhat unlikely, though possible if the elite four or battle frontier-esque building actually is the thing in the middle and they want to keep us from getting to it.
It's moreso that Ghost / Psychic is bad offensive typing and worse defensive typing. Ghost + Psychic is one of the few Ghost / X typings you can get that won't ensure you hit every type for at least neutral damage. Defensively, a Ghost-type only gets a Psychic resistance from Psychic typing, and in exchange, becomes neutral to Bug and a crippling x4 weak to Dark and Ghost.
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