The new vote to befriend a Pokemon thing grants us an amazing opportunity, to get Regenerator Ho-oh! Ho-oh is, quite frankly, lackluster without Regenerator, and I think it deserves to get it.
It's more like Ho-Oh is already really fucking good and gets really really fucking good with Regernerator.The new vote to befriend a Pokemon thing grants us an amazing opportunity, to get Regenerator Ho-oh! Ho-oh is, quite frankly, lackluster without Regenerator, and I think it deserves to get it.
I've decided to switch to Ubers - or, at least, I'll attempt to switch to Ubers. Several questions:
These are pretty much the same thing, so I'm gonna answer them in one answer.Why does it seem like there are way more Toxic users in Ubers compared to Thunder Wave? From my experience in other tiers, paralysis is typically more useful because it stops a sweeper at once instead of stops it several turns down the line. Surprisingly however, this doesn't seem to hold true in Ubers. Why?
Virtually all the tier seems extremely vulnerable to Toxic Spikes. Sure some Pokemon Levitate and avoid it, there are a few absorbers out there, Manaphy in rain doesn't care and Forretress is immune to it + can spin, but still: virtually all the tier seems extremely vulnerable to Toxic Spikes. Is Toxic Spikes very common in the tier, or is it simply too difficult to set up?
Ubers is all about hard hitting, and bulk. When you Paralyze something, you make it slower. Slower is not always good. Everyone focus their teams to have some kind of bulk, in order to take those hard hitting moves like Draco Meteor and Psycho Boost. However, when you Toxic a Pokemon, you completely limit its lifespan on the field. For example, a poisoned Scarf Palkia is gonna have a rough time in the battle field, because you need to hit fast and hit correctly. You don't want to waste moves when in each turn you lose more and more health. Toxic Spikes are just a way to poison the foe's entire team without using repeatedly Toxic, the ones who are vulnerable to that hazard anyway.
Uber tier is by far more threatening. With Draco Meteor everywhere, Weather controlling the metagame and lots of bulky Pokemon, each Pokemon can be dealt or played around.How does the Uber tier differ from other tiers considering the fact that many Ubers have no counter? For example, before Excadrill's banning from OU if one's team had trouble with it one could always slot in a hard counter (Skarmory, Gliscor, etc). It might ruin the team synergy and it might not fit the spirit of the team, but the option is always there. In Ubers, Deoxys-A will 2HKO everything in the game, so it has no counters. How then does a team survive against a Deoxys-A that may be predicting a switch-in? For that matter, how does anyone deal with the insanity of Specs Water Spout? Without immunity everything takes big damage from it, so they can all be worn down. This ought to imply that stall is ineffective, but that hardly seems to be the case. Why?
As for your Deoxys-A example. Deoxys-A is a powerhouse, no doubt. The best attacker in the entire game, peaking 504 Special Attack and/or Attack. It can shred teams with an ease.
BUT, Deoxys-A is frail as shit. Basically, any Scarfer or Priority user will end him up.
Kyogre's Water Spout is easily dealt to be honest. You gotta have either;
1) x4 Resist to Water - best example is Palkia which can Thunder back
2) Gastrodon / Shedinja - yup, Gastrodon works in ubers too :D, Shedinja sucks but it's a pure counter.
3) Big Special Defense Wall - Chanseyyy (although full powered Specs Water Spout 2HKOs)
Most teams pick the x4 resist because it's very easy to slap it in to a team, and Chansey is just too good. Kyogre can be easily checked too. Rayquaza can take Water Spout like it's nothing and do a crapload of damage with Outrage or Draco Meteor. Dialga is also a great counter, I think the standard Support set is not 2HKOed by Specs Water Spout. Tentacruel can take a Thunder from Scarf Kyogre, Protect and receive health back from Rain Dish + Leftovers, while also can set up Toxic Spikes to limit Kyogre's lifespan.
Hope I helped :P
Actually Specs cleanly 2HKOes without hazards and a full powered spout. Not sure about Specs Hydro Pump though. Gastrodon, Shedinja, and Specially Defensive Giratina-a are the only things that counter basically all forms of Kyogre (well unless sub cm is used then gastrodon is screwed and Gira-a also if it doesnt have roar). Normally however due to that fact Kyogre hates hazards its often only nessecary to pack a check like Scarfkia to prevent the power of Specs Spout from destroying a team.Dialga is also a great counter, I think the standard Support set is not 2HKOed by Specs Water Spout.
Although most Ubers have no counter, checks + hazards + priority/ scarfmon is enough to debilitate them to the point where they are worthless. Since stall does this effectively it was extremely popular earlier. Also immunity does not mean an attack is worthless, Ferrothorn's ability to shove off 4* Super Effective Fire blasts in rain from a dragon still occurs in ubers.How does the Uber tier differ from other tiers considering the fact that many Ubers have no counter? For example, before Excadrill's banning from OU if one's team had trouble with it one could always slot in a hard counter (Skarmory, Gliscor, etc). It might ruin the team synergy and it might not fit the spirit of the team, but the option is always there. In Ubers, Deoxys-A will 2HKO everything in the game, so it has no counters. How then does a team survive against a Deoxys-A that may be predicting a switch-in? For that matter, how does anyone deal with the insanity of Specs Water Spout? Without immunity everything takes big damage from it, so they can all be worn down. This ought to imply that stall is ineffective, but that hardly seems to be the case. Why?
just saying, a paralyzed ScarfPalk is a lot stupider than a Toxiced One as it has to take two hits from Kyogre before retaliating now...These are pretty much the same thing, so I'm gonna answer them in one answer.
Ubers is all about hard hitting, and bulk. When you Paralyze something, you make it slower. Slower is not always good. Everyone focus their teams to have some kind of bulk, in order to take those hard hitting moves like Draco Meteor and Psycho Boost. However, when you Toxic a Pokemon, you completely limit its lifespan on the field. For example, a poisoned Scarf Palkia is gonna have a rough time in the battle field, because you need to hit fast and hit correctly. You don't want to waste moves when in each turn you lose more and more health. Toxic Spikes are just a way to poison the foe's entire team without using repeatedly Toxic, the ones who are vulnerable to that hazard anyway.
Aside from Ludicolo, who seems way more like a specialized Kyogre counter than anything else, everyone else takes huge damage. The damage is so high that if the defender survives and has a recovery move, it's forced to use it if it is faster (if it's slower, it's dead anyway, so ...) in the hope that Kyogre switches out. If the defender does not have a recovery move, then it will only be able to switch in once or maybe twice if hazards are up. After that Kyogre will be KOing things each time it comes in. You can still revenge kill it, but you'll be losing Pokemon fast.131 Base Power Water Spout:
vs 252/216+ Ludicolo: 29.67% - 34.89%
vs 0/0 Palkia: 38.94% - 45.79%
vs 4/252+ Chansey: 42.52% - 50.16% (Possible 2HKO; guaranteed on Bold with Stealth Rock)
vs 252/224+ Tentacruel: 52.2% - 61.5% (Might survive for a bit with Rain Dish + Protect)
vs 252/252+ Ferrothorn: 53.98% - 63.64% (2HKO)
vs 252/4 Arceus (resist): 56.08% - 66.22% (OHKO on other Arceus)
vs 104/0 Zekrom: 79.84% - 94.01% (Possible OHKO with Stealth Rock)
vs 252/80 Lugia: 91.59%+ (OHKO with Stealth Rock)
low kick/superpower on deoxys-a: which is better?
You can win without SR you know. I never said you cant make a team without him, but he really can do anything you want better than most of the metagame.What are you talking about Go10? Plenty of successful teams doesn't have Arceus as a member.
Definitely Superpower like others mentioned.low kick/superpower on deoxys-a: which is better?