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Genesect unbanned from Ubers with typing drives.

Discussion in 'The Suggestion Box' started by ciaxel, Mar 10, 2013.

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  1. ciaxel


    Aug 5, 2012
    I apologize if this specific discussion is in the wrong forum section, an admin can move this thread to the appropriate section and even infract me if necessary - Smogon's forums are kindof clustered in my perception and therefore it's difficult to pinpoint the appropriate criteria in one specific area of the forum.

    Anyways, I was beyond satisfied once Genesect was finally brought up to Ubers. The redundant Choice Scarf lead was EVERYWHERE and I can't recall how many times I've seen it on others teams while it was still legal in OU play.

    However, I noticed that Genesect loses it's viability while equipping the Type Drives. OU play is very reliant on Life Orb this, Choice Scarf that, and Genesect loses that oppurtunity of a head start if forced to equip one of the typing plates.

    The distinction would be like Latios's and Latias's Soul Dew, but reversed. Soul Dew is banned in OU play and grants Latios and Latias a large placement in the Ubers tier. Similarly, Genesect could equip the typing drives to PURPOSELY hinder his versatality, perhaps dropping him to what I would perceive as BL or even UU.

    I HAVE experimented with the drives and they are actually quite viable if executed correctly. Then again, I haven't had experience with actual metagame testing so I wouldn't know how to particularly test this if this suggestion were to be considered.

  2. Lady Salamence

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    Aug 4, 2010
    To be fair, Smogon's community has never liked complex bans when it isn't absolutely necessary.
  3. jrp

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    Jul 24, 2010
    that's never happening. The tiering leaders are generally against complex bans, especially something as convoluted as this.
  4. Agonist

    Agonist The day the world went away
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    May 22, 2010
    In other words, you're proposing Genesect be allowed as long as it doesn't use a Choice item, or Life Orb (or any other useful items)? That's not going to happen.
  5. Mr. Uncompetitive

    Mr. Uncompetitive

    Jun 20, 2012
    I suggest you read the arguments presented in this thread for a better explanation as to why we are not doing complex bans like that (it is 100% relevant despite the title)

    This post in particular pretty much sums it all up.
  6. Birkal

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    Oct 12, 2010
    ThisMysteriousGuy summed it up pretty well. This is a good question to ask though! You can write me a message if you have any more questions. Welcome to Smogon =)
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