I've been using a new balance core in this Stoutland-dominated meta that I find to be pretty effective.
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I have a second offensive core that is especially potent now, considering the different types of defensive cores like SpDef Clefairy and Def Tangela that I've been seeing lately.
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First, I've been using defensive Tangela on a lot of my teams to eat up hits from CB Scrappy Stoutland especially. Using Defensive Tangela also has the benefit of stopping Shell Smash Barbaracle and Shell Smash Carracosta cold (except for the rarely seen Shell Smash + Ice Beam variant of Carracosta). At this point, this opens up the way to use Rain Dance LO Poliwrath because you no longer have to run Water Absorb on Poliwrath given Tangela is already a perfect stop to common Shell Smashers. They have nice defensive synergy together, with Tangela resisting Grass / Electric hits for Poliwrath, and Tangela resisting Bug / Fire / Ice hits for Poliwrath. And, if you need to keep Tangela's Eviolite, offensive Poliwrath still makes a decent switch-in into Pawniard despite its greater emphasis on Speed rather than HP.
While you’ve probably already noticed this core is not standalone because it’s weak to Flying (e.g.: Swanna, Dodrio, Jumpluff before Rain is set), high SpA Mons with great type coverage (e.g.: Kadabra, Mr. Mime, Zebstrika), fat mons that have SE coverage and don’t die in 1 hit (e.g. Grumpig), this is still a great starting point in teambuilding to handle the meta’s most offensive physical threats, like Pawniard, Sawsbuck, Carracosta, Barbaracle, and Stoutland to list a few.
In terms of EVs and IVs, I have Tangela running a small amount of Speed to finish off RestTalk Poliwrath before it can Rest and switch out, as well as Adamant 252 Spe Carracosta by 1 point (this is optional, so full Def is fine). On Poliwrath, I lowered its HP IV in order to reduce the recoil it takes from Life Orb. Tangela can also run a Hidden Power over Knock Off, but I found crippling Roselia switch-ins to be especially useful in this specific combination. Knock Off Tangela for Roselia switch-ins comes to me via a smart recommendation from gasquakee.
While you’ve probably already noticed this core is not standalone because it’s weak to Flying (e.g.: Swanna, Dodrio, Jumpluff before Rain is set), high SpA Mons with great type coverage (e.g.: Kadabra, Mr. Mime, Zebstrika), fat mons that have SE coverage and don’t die in 1 hit (e.g. Grumpig), this is still a great starting point in teambuilding to handle the meta’s most offensive physical threats, like Pawniard, Sawsbuck, Carracosta, Barbaracle, and Stoutland to list a few.
In terms of EVs and IVs, I have Tangela running a small amount of Speed to finish off RestTalk Poliwrath before it can Rest and switch out, as well as Adamant 252 Spe Carracosta by 1 point (this is optional, so full Def is fine). On Poliwrath, I lowered its HP IV in order to reduce the recoil it takes from Life Orb. Tangela can also run a Hidden Power over Knock Off, but I found crippling Roselia switch-ins to be especially useful in this specific combination. Knock Off Tangela for Roselia switch-ins comes to me via a smart recommendation from gasquakee.
Tangela @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 228 Def / 32 Spe
Bold Nature
- Stun Spore / Sleep Powder
- Giga Drain
- Knock Off / Hidden Power Ice
- Synthesis
Poliwrath @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Hydro Pump
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 248 HP / 228 Def / 32 Spe
Bold Nature
- Stun Spore / Sleep Powder
- Giga Drain
- Knock Off / Hidden Power Ice
- Synthesis
Poliwrath @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Hydro Pump
- Focus Blast
- Ice Beam
- Rain Dance
I have a second offensive core that is especially potent now, considering the different types of defensive cores like SpDef Clefairy and Def Tangela that I've been seeing lately.


These guys have nice defensive synergy, with Pawniard resisting Flying / Ice / Poison for Simisage and Simisage resisting Ground for Pawniard. Compared to that though, the way they work together in the meta to break certain defensive cores is the reason to use these two in combination. Simisage is able to take on many Pawniard checks and counters, like Poliwrath (bulky special and physically defensive), defensive Carracosta, defensive Stunfisk, and standard Piloswine among others. After these answers to Pawniard are removed by Simisage's STAB LO Leaf Storm, Pawniard is free to wreak havoc. In return, Pawniard can take on non HP-Fighting / non Powder variants of Roselia by resisting Giga Drain and being immune to Sludge Bomb for Simisage. Here are some calcs that show you how Simisage can open up the way for Pawniard:
Simisage and Pawniard are also cool because they form a Knock Off core together and dismantle many of the NFEs that form potent defensive backbones which keep many teams alive.
As far as the EVs /IVs / Nature / Movesets for these two goes, Simisage MUST run Leaf Storm to do this for Pawniard, and it should run Naive over Hasty in order to take Piloswine's Ice Shard better (takes 8% less). Simisage also takes a lowered HP IV to reduce LO recoil, like RD Poliwrath does above. Pawn is standard and doesn't need to be explained.
OHKO on standard Piloswine:
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Piloswine: 359-424 (89 - 105.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Piloswine: 359-424 (89 - 105.2%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
OHKO on defensive Carracosta:
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Solid Rock Carracosta: 760-901 (215.9 - 255.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
OHKO on Resttalk Poliwrath:
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Poliwrath: 393-463 (102.3 - 120.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
OHKO on Special Poliwrath (Seed Bomb barely misses the OHKO):
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 192 HP / 0 SpD Poliwrath: 393-463 (106.5 - 125.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
OHKO on Stunfisk after Rocks:
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 361-429 (85.5 - 101.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Piloswine: 359-424 (89 - 105.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Piloswine: 359-424 (89 - 105.2%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
OHKO on defensive Carracosta:
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Solid Rock Carracosta: 760-901 (215.9 - 255.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
OHKO on Resttalk Poliwrath:
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Poliwrath: 393-463 (102.3 - 120.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
OHKO on Special Poliwrath (Seed Bomb barely misses the OHKO):
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 192 HP / 0 SpD Poliwrath: 393-463 (106.5 - 125.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
OHKO on Stunfisk after Rocks:
4 SpA Life Orb Simisage Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Stunfisk: 361-429 (85.5 - 101.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Simisage and Pawniard are also cool because they form a Knock Off core together and dismantle many of the NFEs that form potent defensive backbones which keep many teams alive.
As far as the EVs /IVs / Nature / Movesets for these two goes, Simisage MUST run Leaf Storm to do this for Pawniard, and it should run Naive over Hasty in order to take Piloswine's Ice Shard better (takes 8% less). Simisage also takes a lowered HP IV to reduce LO recoil, like RD Poliwrath does above. Pawn is standard and doesn't need to be explained.
Simisage @ Life Orb
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
- Gunk Shot
- Superpower
Pawniard @ Eviolite
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 29 HP
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
- Gunk Shot
- Superpower
Pawniard @ Eviolite
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
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