Sandstorm sounds like a cool option until you realize it hits your own mons, meaning you need more rock/steel/ground types than it's worth.
I got ahead of myself with smeargle, C+ is fine.
Yay, you encored the switchin into an attacking move. Time for recover loops! 70/82 from lax's DE and 50/59 from BS means lax has a good chance to outpace Recover, and should honestly be the only thing switching in bar dark-types. It doesn't even hit Lax or Kou twice with psychic without sacrificing itself (kou's thunder also does 50/59). It's true it consistently hits stuff for high damage - as I said, 135 off 368 - but it just doesn't have the bulk to get in enough to use it. Encore's 8 PP is also super easy to play around.
I'll trust borat's opinion on sandslash, not like anybody else has experience with it lol.
Thanks for restoring hope for Meganium, I'm for keeping it at C- at the moment, probably changing to C+ or D depending on just how effective and resilient it is, which is now more or less depicted as "enough".
Amphy doesn't deserve a rank. I already debunked DPunch and DPunch+TWave, which means the only niches left are holding Light Screen, TWave and Fire Punch. TWave and screens are frankly done better by Zap despite the different typing, while Fire Punch + HP Water/Ice/Grass isn't a big enough niche to keep it ranked. People overhype "mono-electric typing + things that zap has but kou doesn't".
Forretress can also lure cloy with toxic, and Encore is just that - cute. I don't see any point where I would want to choose Donphan over something else because mono-ground typing + encore.
I've also been thinking a bit about Slowbro to D. One-turn recovery, growl, thunder wave, I think it was OU for a small stint once upon a time, and there's probably a reason behind that not called metagame trends. While people certainly overhyped it, its capabilities are probably not unfounded. At least should be ranked along the lines of Venusaur.
edit: rip slack off then. Was still ou for a bit and everything else still applies, although now I'm less sure.
I got ahead of myself with smeargle, C+ is fine.
Yay, you encored the switchin into an attacking move. Time for recover loops! 70/82 from lax's DE and 50/59 from BS means lax has a good chance to outpace Recover, and should honestly be the only thing switching in bar dark-types. It doesn't even hit Lax or Kou twice with psychic without sacrificing itself (kou's thunder also does 50/59). It's true it consistently hits stuff for high damage - as I said, 135 off 368 - but it just doesn't have the bulk to get in enough to use it. Encore's 8 PP is also super easy to play around.
I'll trust borat's opinion on sandslash, not like anybody else has experience with it lol.
Thanks for restoring hope for Meganium, I'm for keeping it at C- at the moment, probably changing to C+ or D depending on just how effective and resilient it is, which is now more or less depicted as "enough".
Amphy doesn't deserve a rank. I already debunked DPunch and DPunch+TWave, which means the only niches left are holding Light Screen, TWave and Fire Punch. TWave and screens are frankly done better by Zap despite the different typing, while Fire Punch + HP Water/Ice/Grass isn't a big enough niche to keep it ranked. People overhype "mono-electric typing + things that zap has but kou doesn't".
Forretress can also lure cloy with toxic, and Encore is just that - cute. I don't see any point where I would want to choose Donphan over something else because mono-ground typing + encore.
I've also been thinking a bit about Slowbro to D. One-turn recovery, growl, thunder wave, I think it was OU for a small stint once upon a time, and there's probably a reason behind that not called metagame trends. While people certainly overhyped it, its capabilities are probably not unfounded. At least should be ranked along the lines of Venusaur.
edit: rip slack off then. Was still ou for a bit and everything else still applies, although now I'm less sure.
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