The only thing you aren't understanding is that your trying to dismiss this pokemon by comparing it to TWO pokemon that EASILY outclass it when placed in similar situations that benefit them! Despite the fact that you continue to mention Salamence's, and Gachomps ability to use fire based abilities to check Ono's obvious problems when it can't even hit with a fire based special/physcial attack which is even more irrelevant because it's already been stated, and can be seen without it having to be mentioned every other page. You then go about mentioning the OBVIOUS advantages, and individualities that the other two have over it i.e. mence's intimidate and typing, Garchomps Sand Veil and typing, and then continue to make it seem like Ono's OBVIOUS individualities are "inferior" to theirs, when it's pretty damn clear that Ono isn't meant to be as versatile as the other two and has a specific niche in it's own right.I don't get why you're posting if you're going to ignore everyone elses opinions. I have actually provided arguments, you haven't. It's been stated that it shouldn't be compared to Mence, but without adequate reasoning; yes, both have advantages, but Ononokusu's main perk is that it doesn't die to random Ice attacks. Salamence is faster and can use Fire Blast to nail stuff like Nuttre and Skarm, not to mention that Dragon / Flying with Intimidate is so much easier to set up than a really specially frail pure Dragon. Bulky DD Ono is even more outclassed since it doesn't get recovery and has worse defenses and defensive typing.
Rayquaza is likely to be Uber in Gen V, Salamence probably won't be. So that part of your argument is irrelevant.
Relevant calcs.
Not only are your calcs failing to show his perks from the other dragons other then the plain as day x2 ice weakness, but then your placing it in situations that's already been noted as unfavorable to it, and still continue to place it in the same bracket as those two screwing over your own logic by comparing them. I mentioned Rayquaza because you so readily, and willing, mentioned Salamence's obvious features. In respect to tiers you have NO clue what the hell the tiers are going to be like in the begining other then by speculation, so in a fair situation, Ray had it's mentioning, and as such, you immediately jumped to the conclusion of Ubers in Gen V. Lets put it in a gen IV perspective then shall we?
Mence popped into the Uber metagame with an obvious showing that it would be outclassed by Rayquaza. In your argument, you would be arguing his obvious perks over Rayquaza while still noting that it is obviously outclassed. In my situation apart of the arguement, not only would I realize that Mence in the Uber bracket against my Ray would be inferior, but I would have the common sense to not compare the apparent superiority that Rayquaza would have over Mence. Now swap that back over this current Gen, replacing Mence with Ono, and like wise to Ray with Mence. Not only am I defending it's obvious advantages, but im not mentioning the plain as day superiority to Mence. Instead, you lack the common sense to seperate Mence from Ono because it's obviously inferior, and continue to put up a one-sided arguement against it, which was the difference be the above example of this situation.
Im not passing of your post, but im questioning the logic behind why you continously post up the obvious factors as to why Ononokusu SHOULDN'T be compared to Mence, and Chomp. All of your statements and post CLEARLY show that they shouldn't be compared, yet fail to realize that yourself. What's stopping someone from not giving a care weither or not Mence, or Chomp can do this and that better then Ono? For one thing, if they needed a specific thing that Ono could fill better, i.e a niche, then they would obviously pick Ono. And in the same case can be said if that niche could be filled by Mence and Chomp simply because those specific perks come into play. With each dragons specific perk from one and the other it seperates them from having to be constantly paired towards each other. I have yet to see you bring up a comparison to between Chomp, and Mence, yet, you probably wont mention that because it obvious that those two shouldn't be compared right? SO! What the hell is stopping the same to be true for Ono?
@atticus- i agree that Skarm is definitely a problem. The lack of SE was pretty dissappointing as well since it would have been able to deal with a couple of other situations alot better.