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Data Initial Gen 7 UU Banlists (updated in post #38)

Discussion in 'Smogon Metagames' started by Antar, Jan 5, 2017.

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  1. Nitrowafers

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    True, but I'd prefer to use an all OU team until I get more experience in the competitive scene.
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  2. TheNegativeOne

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    Being OU, UU, etc. doesn't matter in the slightest. It doesn't determine how good or viable a pokemon is in another meta. The only thing it determines is how popular it is. Tangrowth in ORAS, for example, was RU for the longest time but was always a great OU Pokemon, and then viola it got OU usage, and nothing changed at all in the long run. Use whatever your team needs, UU is basically ORAS OU at this point anyways.
  3. Kutscher

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    wich mons are banned from RU?
  4. Swaggy-G

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    OU Pokémon are still more viable than UU in general. There's a reason they are used more, and though popularity might play into it, it's not the biggest factor. Nothing wrong with using OU stuff if you're still starting out. That said, the meta is still young, and there's likely to be many changes.
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2017
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  5. TheNegativeOne

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    Yeah I know, my point was that you shouldn't discredit a mon or be reluctant to use it based on its tier.

    Anyways, would Scizor potentially get QBed? I know for a fact it'll be getting a suspect with how strong it is in UU, but I'm asking for opinions on a potential QB.
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  6. Zepeln

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    http://pastebin.com/9FBtJmTp

    Needless to say, RU has also gone through a major powercreep
  7. RodintheRiolu

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    I was likely the 0.159% using Lucario. :,(
  8. JTD783

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    Hey at least Lucario's amazing in RU now

    >inb4 quickban

    As people have said, many mons' viability will shift once the tiers sort themselves out. Never forget Quagsire, lads.
  9. Swaggy-G

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    Trevenant too.
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  10. Mewtastic

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    I used Lucario in UU. Once or twice. Then made a team that enjoyed much more.
    ...And then never again.
    He was still fun though, specs i think it was?
  11. Illusion's FTW

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    Trust me, Lucario won't get quickbanned anytime soon. Due to it's capability of getting revenge killed as well as LO recoil and weaknesses to the most common types in the metagame (Fighting,Fire,Ground) it'll have a long way to go from getting quickbanned from RU btw. A lot of things can survive a ESpeed from it too like Donphan, Emboar, Mienshao, and many more that can in turn hit back and KO Lucario or leave a huge dent to it with STAB moves or priority. And yeah never forget quag lol.
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  12. Bassie!

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    I don't agree with you since there is no hyper offensive team that can take a +2 extremespeed except running ghost types. Lucario is way too good for RU.
  13. Antar

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    So here's the combined usage stats and the UU tier changes based on Jan 1-26 "gen7pokebankou" data.

    Note that since UU is only just now leaving Beta, I'm using the standard cutoff of 3.41% for drops and rises.

    OU (open)
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    Combined usage for OU
    + ---- + ------------------ + ------- +
    | Rank | Pokemon            | Percent |
    + ---- + ------------------ + ------- +
    | 1    | Landorus-Therian   | 48.528% |
    | 2    | Tapu Fini          | 31.162% |
    | 3    | Metagross-Mega     | 29.884% |
    | 4    | Tapu Lele          | 27.199% |
    | 5    | Greninja-Ash       | 20.489% |
    | 6    | Magearna           | 16.463% |
    | 7    | Pheromosa          | 15.979% |
    | 8    | Tapu Koko          | 14.804% |
    | 9    | Heatran            | 13.994% |
    | 10   | Garchomp           | 13.735% |
    | 11   | Ferrothorn         | 11.833% |
    | 12   | Magnezone          | 11.669% |
    | 13   | Tapu Bulu          | 10.966% |
    | 14   | Marowak-Alola      |  9.925% |
    | 15   | Dugtrio            |  9.392% |
    | 16   | Excadrill          |  9.210% |
    | 17   | Scizor-Mega        |  9.117% |
    | 18   | Toxapex            |  8.987% |
    | 19   | Skarmory           |  8.645% |
    | 20   | Celesteela         |  8.385% |
    | 21   | Venusaur-Mega      |  7.380% |
    | 22   | Greninja           |  7.321% |
    | 23   | Charizard-Mega-X   |  6.948% |
    | 24   | Kartana            |  6.865% |
    | 25   | Chansey            |  6.846% |
    | 26   | Volcarona          |  6.291% |
    | 27   | Sableye-Mega       |  6.215% |
    | 28   | Latios             |  6.158% |
    | 29   | Hoopa-Unbound      |  6.085% |
    | 30   | Zygarde            |  5.953% |
    | 31   | Charizard-Mega-Y   |  5.802% |
    | 32   | Tyranitar          |  5.320% |
    | 33   | Zapdos             |  5.286% |
    | 34   | Rotom-Wash         |  5.266% |
    | 35   | Pinsir-Mega        |  5.131% |
    | 36   | Nihilego           |  5.130% |
    | 37   | Mimikyu            |  5.019% |
    | 38   | Buzzwole           |  4.685% |
    | 39   | Jirachi            |  4.486% |
    | 40   | Mamoswine          |  4.477% |
    | 41   | Manaphy            |  4.323% |
    | 42   | Salamence          |  4.104% |
    | 43   | Xurkitree          |  3.980% |
    | 44   | Tangrowth          |  3.770% |
    | 45   | Alakazam-Mega      |  3.733% |
    | 46   | Muk-Alola          |  3.538% |
    | 47   | Scolipede          |  3.522% |
    | 48   | Pelipper           |  3.511% |
    | 49   | Gyarados-Mega      |  3.366% |
    | 50   | Clefable           |  3.248% |
    | 51   | Dragonite          |  2.746% |
    | 52   | Gengar             |  2.674% |
    | 53   | Serperior          |  2.610% |
    | 54   | Kingdra            |  2.463% |
    | 55   | Keldeo             |  2.448% |
    | 56   | Amoonguss          |  2.436% |
    | 57   | Kyurem-Black       |  2.257% |
    | 58   | Azelf              |  2.218% |
    | 59   | Necrozma           |  2.167% |
    | 60   | Mantine            |  2.152% |
    | 61   | Gyarados           |  2.142% |
    | 62   | Bisharp            |  2.033% |
    | 63   | Tornadus-Therian   |  1.999% |
    | 64   | Porygon-Z          |  1.950% |
    | 65   | Sharpedo-Mega      |  1.921% |
    | 66   | Zygarde-10%        |  1.809% |
    | 67   | Mandibuzz          |  1.751% |
    | 68   | Weavile            |  1.643% |
    | 69   | Shedinja           |  1.638% |
    | 70   | Quagsire           |  1.574% |
    | 71   | Hydreigon          |  1.560% |
    | 72   | Togekiss           |  1.540% |
    | 73   | Breloom            |  1.539% |
    | 74   | Hippowdon          |  1.514% |
    | 75   | Alomomola          |  1.357% |
    | 76   | Decidueye          |  1.317% |
    | 77   | Ninetales-Alola    |  1.316% |
    | 78   | Gliscor            |  1.313% |
    | 79   | Salazzle           |  1.312% |
    | 80   | Seismitoad         |  1.273% |
    | 81   | Thundurus          |  1.236% |
    | 82   | Tentacruel         |  1.225% |
    | 83   | Latias             |  1.185% |
    | 84   | Azumarill          |  1.142% |
    | 85   | Smeargle           |  1.109% |
    | 86   | Victini            |  1.108% |
    | 87   | Terrakion          |  1.099% |
    | 88   | Ditto              |  1.097% |
    | 89   | Porygon2           |  1.067% |
    | 90   | Thundurus-Therian  |  1.053% |
    | 91   | Starmie            |  1.052% |
    | 92   | Mew                |  1.046% |
    | 93   | Scizor             |  1.042% |
    | 94   | Volcanion          |  0.987% |
    | 95   | Primarina          |  0.972% |
    | 96   | Araquanid          |  0.963% |
    | 97   | Chandelure         |  0.871% |
    | 98   | Dhelmise           |  0.798% |
    | 99   | Nidoking           |  0.783% |
    | 100  | Golisopod          |  0.765% |
    | 101  | Slowbro            |  0.715% |
    | 102  | Espeon             |  0.704% |
    | 103  | Bronzong           |  0.703% |
    | 104  | Venusaur           |  0.689% |
    | 105  | Raichu-Alola       |  0.671% |
    | 106  | Suicune            |  0.623% |
    | 107  | Kabutops           |  0.621% |
    | 108  | Krookodile         |  0.618% |
    | 109  | Raikou             |  0.608% |
    | 110  | Shuckle            |  0.600% |
    | 111  | Hawlucha           |  0.585% |
    | 112  | Absol-Mega         |  0.566% |
    | 113  | Cloyster           |  0.521% |
    | 114  | Minior             |  0.518% |
    | 115  | Conkeldurr         |  0.509% |
    | 116  | Aerodactyl-Mega    |  0.507% |
    | 117  | Persian-Alola      |  0.504% |
    | 118  | Gastrodon          |  0.504% |
    | 119  | Klefki             |  0.486% |
    | 120  | Crawdaunt          |  0.481% |
    | 121  | Blissey            |  0.480% |
    | 122  | Umbreon            |  0.472% |
    | 123  | Diggersby          |  0.463% |
    | 124  | Bewear             |  0.458% |
    | 125  | Infernape          |  0.454% |
    | 126  | Alakazam           |  0.453% |
    | 127  | Arcanine           |  0.448% |
    | 128  | Ninetales          |  0.440% |
    | 129  | Celebi             |  0.437% |
    | 130  | Cresselia          |  0.435% |
    | 131  | Garchomp-Mega      |  0.415% |
    | 132  | Tsareena           |  0.411% |
    | 133  | Slowbro-Mega       |  0.407% |
    | 134  | Staraptor          |  0.397% |
    | 135  | Pyukumuku          |  0.396% |
    | 136  | Kommo-o            |  0.392% |
    | 137  | Goodra             |  0.390% |
    | 138  | Darmanitan         |  0.377% |
    | 139  | Galvantula         |  0.355% |
    | 140  | Torkoal            |  0.353% |
    | 141  | Forretress         |  0.352% |
    | 142  | Talonflame         |  0.341% |
    | 143  | Lycanroc           |  0.338% |
    | 144  | Exeggutor-Alola    |  0.328% |
    | 145  | Donphan            |  0.321% |
    | 146  | Sylveon            |  0.319% |
    | 147  | Blastoise-Mega     |  0.284% |
    | 148  | Reuniclus          |  0.277% |
    | 149  | Entei              |  0.271% |
    | 150  | Vikavolt           |  0.263% |
    | 151  | Whimsicott         |  0.263% |
    | 152  | Sandslash-Alola    |  0.261% |
    | 153  | Empoleon           |  0.250% |
    | 154  | Rotom-Heat         |  0.247% |
    | 155  | Snorlax            |  0.245% |
    | 156  | Heracross          |  0.237% |
    | 157  | Metagross          |  0.229% |
    | 158  | Gigalith           |  0.228% |
    | 159  | Drampa             |  0.223% |
    | 160  | Jolteon            |  0.221% |
    | 161  | Moltres            |  0.215% |
    | 162  | Omastar            |  0.215% |
    | 163  | Roserade           |  0.208% |
    | 164  | Crobat             |  0.205% |
    | 165  | Swampert           |  0.204% |
    | 166  | Lucario            |  0.201% |
    | 167  | Flygon             |  0.199% |
    | 168  | Slowking           |  0.196% |
    | 169  | Nidoqueen          |  0.192% |
    | 170  | Xatu               |  0.182% |
    | 171  | Milotic            |  0.180% |
    | 172  | Chesnaught         |  0.180% |
    | 173  | Ribombee           |  0.178% |
    | 174  | Komala             |  0.174% |
    | 175  | Ludicolo           |  0.170% |
    | 176  | Politoed           |  0.162% |
    | 177  | Incineroar         |  0.152% |
    | 178  | Golem-Alola        |  0.150% |
    | 179  | Uxie               |  0.149% |
    | 180  | Vaporeon           |  0.149% |
    | 181  | Mudsdale           |  0.145% |
    | 182  | Froslass           |  0.132% |
    | 183  | Aerodactyl         |  0.130% |
    | 184  | Wishiwashi         |  0.130% |
    | 185  | Rhyperior          |  0.129% |
    | 186  | Audino             |  0.127% |
    | 187  | Toxicroak          |  0.126% |
    | 188  | Cofagrigus         |  0.125% |
    | 189  | Comfey             |  0.123% |
    | 190  | Crabominable       |  0.122% |
    | 191  | Machamp            |  0.122% |
    | 192  | Guzzlord           |  0.120% |
    | 193  | Victreebel         |  0.118% |
    | 194  | Carbink            |  0.116% |
    | 195  | Haxorus            |  0.114% |
    | 196  | Electivire         |  0.113% |
    | 197  | Feraligatr         |  0.112% |
    | 198  | Swellow            |  0.111% |
    | 199  | Bruxish            |  0.110% |
    | 200  | Turtonator         |  0.107% |
    | 201  | Lanturn            |  0.107% |
    | 202  | Doublade           |  0.107% |
    | 203  | Dugtrio-Alola      |  0.106% |
    | 204  | Jellicent          |  0.104% |
    | 205  | Silvally           |  0.103% |
    | 206  | Zoroark            |  0.103% |
    + ---- + ------------------ + ------- +
    


    Kingdra moved from OU to UU
    Scolipede moved from BL to OU
    Charizard-Mega-Y moved from BL to OU
    Clefable moved from OU to UU
    Mantine moved from OU to UU
    Salamence moved from BL to OU
    Volcarona moved from BL to OU

    Edit: combined stats that include Jan 27-31 are here. The changelist stays the same.
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  14. mashonem

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    Lando-T is literally on half of all OU teams

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    Drizzle better look out, it's gonna be next on the BL chopping block at this rate.

    Hooray for stall

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  15. adamant excadrill

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    why the fuck people still use xurkitree blows my mind. Anyways im shocked people haven't picked up on how good bronzong and gastrodon are right now. They are great in the current meta game same with serperior
  16. MaahirMomtaz12

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    Xurkitree breaks walls
  17. Mikael

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    gg people, rain is busted now.

    tfw when zapdos, mimikyu and xurkitree are still in OU. at least clefable looks lit. the real talk is the RU changes tho. that is crazy

    also, landorus on literally half of teams is just cancer to me. it's making me wish it gets to boot for more diversity inb4 garchomp becomes new lando after that
    there are better stuff at breaking walls tho.
  18. Dussky

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    oh joy, clef and mantine are UU.
  19. Umirozen

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    Xurkitree is like the Sylveon of Gen 6 lel
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    Because a LOT of people copy pasted robopoke's RMT team which includes BP w/ Xurk.
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  21. Seth_

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    It is official: Landorus-T is Primal Groundon of OU.

    OU is so overcentralized around few top threads. It is time to change.
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  22. Kyuzeth

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    Thundurus-T does it better, though, since it's got a better movepool and a superior Speed tier of 101, which is a troll number. Volt Absorb also gives it utility, letting it soft check Tapu Koko among others.
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    It's everywhere on Scolipede+Baton Pass teams. Slap it an Air Ballon to laught at Lando-T and you get yourself a free Tail Glow.
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    Primaldon hit 97% usage already so this ain't nothing.
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  25. MaahirMomtaz12

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    If Xurkitree were to drop it'd probably be busted with that high Special Attack stat. The lowest it could be in is BL.

    Xurkitree ain't bad guys. At least it's better than a certain UB...
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