Edit: PLEASE IGNORE THE ANGER RAISING TITLE. I don't want a flame war, and I'm sorry for making a title like that. Rather, this is a discussion on Flinch hax. For this game to be competitive as possible, random effects have to be reduced, so that skill can be the most accountable thing for winning a match. This is the reason why evasion moves are banned, and I think it goes on the same basis for serene grace flinching. The fact that these pokemon can (and often do) KO several more pokemon than they should because you don't have a chance to do anything is just plain silly. Yes I have a low post count and I haven't been around competitive pokemon for a long time. But I am not new to competitive gaming, and I know something out of whack. I think at least a discussion on the topic would be great.