Lapras (3/3) (GP 2/2)

[Raseri]

the overview can be touched up a little bit, it doesn't really talk about how well Lapras functions. Lapras is an OK Pokemon in NU, it mashes up a bunch of cool things, but doesn't really do one thing exceptionally well, like the other Water-types do. So if you could clarify that Lapras isn't an amazing Pokemon, I'd be really happy.

Other than that, I think you focus a little bit to much on Water Absorb. It's a great ability for Lapras, but I think the primary reason it's good is access to Thunderbolt and STAB Ice Beam. Water Absorb trails behind that.

Finally, in checks and counters, you imply that offensive teams can really beat Lapras, but I'd make the mention more explicit. Lapras functions best vs more balanced teams. It doesn't have the power to break stall, and offensive teams can outrun it with nearly anything. So I'd mention that it isnt fast enough to check offense, or strong enough to break stall.

I trust you to make these changes right, just highlight me when its done and ill give you the 3rd stamp

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[Metal Sonic]

Raseri

implemented :)

 

[Raseri]

last thing that has to be changed is the setname :( I love it, but Bulky Attacker is much more appropriate.

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[Overview]

<p>Lapras has access to a wonderful ability in Water Absorb, granting it an immunity to Water-type attacks, and allowing it to function as a great check to the myriad of Water-types lurking in the NeverUsed tier thanks to its access to Thunderbolt. Offensively, Lapras faces competition for a slot on the team with other Water-types such as Samurott and Seismitoad. However, Lapras can play the role of an offensive tank, especially with its decent bulk and BoltBeam type coverage. Finally, Lapras's Ice-typing Ice typing also allows it to check some of the threatening Ice-types in the tier. Thus, Lapras is a fair Pokemon in the tier, as it is able to perform multiple roles decently, but it isn't an amazing one either as it doesn't do one thing exceptionally well.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Substitute / Frost Breath
item: Leftovers / Choice Specs
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Modest
evs: 200 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 44 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Access to Thunderbolt and a STAB Ice Beam is Lapras's niche. Water Absorb is a great ability, granting Lapras an immunity to Water-type moves and restoring 25% of the user's its health when hit by one; thus there is a great incentive to switch into a predicted Water-type attack and check the opponent. Lapras's great bulk lets it take on the powerful Water- and Ice-types in the tier with ease, especially from Samurott. Hydro Pump is an obvious STAB option,[remove] and helps take down Fire-, Rock- and Ground-type opponents, for example Golem, Probopass, Torkoal, and Charizard. Thunderbolt is a great move to take down the Water-types that Lapras checks, namely like Samurott, Alomomola, and more. Ice Beam is used for defeating Grass-types that threaten Lapras, for example Roselia and Vileplume, and potentially KO them before they have a chance to strike back. Substitute is used to ease prediction on the Leftovers set and can also block status moves. Lapras can take the opportunity to set up Substitutes on Alomomola or when it forces a switch. Frost Breath should only be used on the with Choice Specs set, allowing Lapras to break through opponents with Special Defense boosts thanks to its 100% critical hit rate.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The 44 Speed EVs are to allows Lapras to outspeed notable opponents Roselia and Alomomola. The rest of the EVs are put into its bulk. Some EVs are invested into the defenses rather than having all EVs put into HP, as this results in an overall bulkier spread for Lapras, while having HP indivisible by 4 to reduce damage taken from Stealth Rock damage taken. With the given EVs you survive two LO HP Hidden Power Grasses from Samurott after Leftovers, a +2 Megahorn after SR, and even a +2 HP Grass from LO Gorebyss at full HP, which is useful to note as one of Lapras's roles is to check offensive Water-types.</p>

<p>Roselia and Garbodor are great teammates for Lapras, being able to provide Hazard entry hazard support and also soak up the Toxic Spikes which cripple Lapras. Garbodor is a fantastic check against Fighting-types which threaten Lapras, while Roselia is great to take for taking on Electric-types and fast Grass-types such as Serperior and Simisage. Rapid Spin support is nice to have for Lapras; Pokemon like Sawk, Torterra, and Serperior can be great partners and can also easily prevent Stealth Rock. Torkoal is the best spinner to pair with Lapras as it resists Grass-type moves for Lapras, can spin away entry hazards and set up its own. Meanwhile, Lapras can reliably take down the Water-, and Ground-types that try to force Torkoal out with Toxic or Ice Beam respectively. Some Ground-types like Golem,[add] who are which is immune to Electric-types moves and can take Rock-type attacks for Lapras, while Lapras can take any Water- and Ice-type attack for it, make for great teammates. These can also set up Stealth Rock to support its team. Sawk and Torterra deserve special mentions for being great partners with Lapras, both resisting Rock-type attacks for Lapras and can easily prevent entry hazards thanks to Mold Breaker and Bullet Seed respectively. Meanwhile, Lapras can handle the Ice-type attacks that Torterra hates.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A specially defensive set can be used for Lapras to take on Gorebyss and special Samurott. A physically defensive set can be used to beat SD Swords Dance Samurott and Ground-types easier. However, Walrein will be more adept at this role due to its greater bulk and access to Encore.</p>

<p>Lapras has access to Dragon Dance, and can run a physically offensive set with Waterfall, Ice Shard,[add] and Drill Run with its fair Base 85 Attack. However, its Base 60 Speed leaves much to be desired and can be outsped by multiple Choice Scarf users and KOed even after a boost or two. Meanwhile, a physical Curse set can be used to take advantage of Lapras's great bulk, but Lapras's multitude of weaknesses to common typings such as Fighting and Grass makes it unable to set up safely. Lapras has access to Heal Bell to act as a cleric, but this is generally done better by bulkier teammates like Musharna and Audino. A Hydration and Rest set may look cool on first sight, but Lapras will rarely stay in to utilize the rain turns as it is easily forced out due to its poor defensive typing.</p>

[Checks & Counters]

<p>As Ice is a poor defensive typing, Lapras gains multiple weaknesses which allow it to be forced out easily. The extra weakness to Stealth Rock and vulnerability to Spikes leaves Lapras severely weakened after a few switch-ins. Fast Pokemon with STAB super effective moves against Lapras can achieve this if they switch in safely, prime examples include Ludicolo, Electabuzz, Sawk, and Primeape. As Lapras can easily get worn down by Substitute, entry hazards (especially Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock), and offensive pressure, care should be taken to minimise the amount of residual damage taken by Lapras. In general, Lapras is too slow to check offensive teams, yet lacks the power to break stall teams. Either one of these team archetypes will be able to handle Lapras easily.</p>

Your wording is a bit odd, but I can't really put my finger on it.

Hopefully the next checker can hammer out the last details.

GP Approved 1/2

 

[blitzlefan]

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[Overview]

<p>Lapras has access to Thunderbolt and a wonderful ability in Water Absorb, which grants it an immunity to Water-type attacks, allowing it to function as a great check to the myriad of Water-types lurking in the Neverused tier. Offensively, Lapras faces competition for a slot on the team from other Water-types such as Samurott and Seismitoad. However, Lapras can play the role of an offensive tank, especially with its decent bulk and BoltBeam coverage. Finally, Lapras's Ice typing allows it to check some threatening Ice-types. Lapras is a fair Pokemon in the tier as it can perform multiple roles decently; however, it isn't an amazing one either as it cannot perform any of them exceptionally well.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Substitute / Frost Breath
item: Leftovers / Choice Specs
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Modest
evs: 200 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 44 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Access to Thunderbolt and a STAB Ice Beam is Lapras's niche. Water Absorb is a great ability, granting Lapras an immunity to Water-type moves and restoring 25% of its health when hit by one. Thus, there is a great incentive to switch Lapras into a predicted Water-type attack so it can check the opponent. Lapras's great bulk lets it take on powerful Water- and Ice-types with ease, especially Samurott. Hydro Pump is an obvious STAB option and helps take down Fire-, Rock-, and Ground-type opponents such as Golem, Probopass, Torkoal, and Charizard. Thunderbolt is a great move that smashes the Water-types that Lapras checks, including Samurott and Alomomola. Ice Beam is used for defeating Grass-types that threaten Lapras, such as Roselia and Vileplume, and potentially KO them before they have a chance to strike back. Substitute is used to ease prediction on the Leftovers set and can also block status moves. Lapras can set up with Substitute against Alomomola or when it forces a switch. Frost Breath should only be used with Choice Specs, as it allows Lapras to break through opponents with Special Defense boosts thanks to its 100% critical hit rate.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The 44 Speed EVs allow Lapras to outspeed Roselia and Alomomola, while the rest of the EVs are put into its bulk. Some EVs are invested into Lapras's defenses rather than its HP, as this results in an overall bulkier spread. Having an HP stat indivisible by four reduces the damage Lapras takes from Stealth Rock. With the given EVs, Lapras can survive two Life Orb-boosted Hidden Power Grasses from Samurott after Leftovers recovery, a +2 Megahorn after Stealth Rock damage, and even a +2 Life Orb-boosted Hidden Power Grass from Gorebyss given that it is at full HP. This is useful as one of Lapras's roles is to check offensive Water-types.</p>

<p>Roselia and Garbodor are great teammates for Lapras, as they can provide entry hazard support and soak up Toxic Spikes, which cripple Lapras. Garbodor is a fantastic check to Fighting-types that threaten Lapras, while Roselia can take on Electric-types and fast Grass-types such as Serperior and Simisage. Rapid Spin support is nice to have for Lapras. Torkoal is the best spinner to pair with Lapras as it resists Grass-type moves, can spin away entry hazards, and can set up its own entry hazards. Meanwhile, Lapras can reliably take down the Water- and Ground-types that try to force Torkoal out with Toxic and Ice Beam, respectively. Some Ground-types such as Golem make for great teammates, as they are immune to Electric-type moves and can take Rock-type attacks aimed at Lapras. Furthermore, they can set up Stealth Rock to support the team. In return, Lapras can take Water- and Ice-type attacks for them. Sawk and Torterra deserve special mentions as partners for Lapras, as both have a resistance to Rock-type attacks and have the ability to prevent opposing entry hazards from being set up thanks to Mold Breaker and Bullet Seed, respectively. Meanwhile, Lapras can handle the Ice-type attacks that Torterra hates.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A specially defensive set can be used for Lapras to take on Gorebyss and special Samurott. A physically defensive set can allow it to beat Swords Dance Samurott and Ground-types more easily. However, Walrein is more adept at this role due to its greater bulk and access to Encore.</p>

<p>Lapras has a fair base 85 Attack and access to Dragon Dance, so it can run a physically offensive set with Waterfall, Ice Shard, and Drill Run as its attacking moves. However, its base 60 Speed leaves much to be desired, and it can be outsped and KOed by multiple Choice Scarf users even after a boost or two. Lapras can utilize a physical Curse set to take advantage of its great bulk, but its multitude of weaknesses to common attacking types such as Fighting and Grass makes it unable to set up safely. Lapras has access to Heal Bell and can act as a cleric, but such a role is generally done better by bulkier teammates such as Musharna and Audino. A set with Hydration and Rest may look cool at first sight, but Lapras will rarely stay in to take advantage of rain, as it is easily forced out due to its poor defensive typing.</p>

[Checks & Counters]

<p>As Ice is a poor defensive typing, Lapras has multiple weaknesses that make it easy to force out. Lapras's weakness to Stealth Rock and vulnerability to Spikes leave it severely weakened after a few switch-ins. Fast Pokemon with super effective STAB moves can force it out if they switch in safely: prime examples include Ludicolo, Electabuzz, Sawk, and Primeape. As Lapras can easily be worn down by Substitute, entry hazard damage (especially Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock), and offensive pressure, care should be taken to minimize the amount of residual damage it takes. In general, Lapras is too slow to check offensive teams, yet lacks the power to break stall teams. Both of these team archetypes are able to handle Lapras easily.</p>

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[Overview]

<p>Lapras has access to Thunderbolt and a wonderful ability in Water Absorb, which grantings it an immunity to Water-type attacks, allowing it to function as a great check to the myriad of Water-types lurking in the NeverUused tier thanks to its access to Thunderbolt. Offensively, Lapras faces competition for a slot on the team withfrom other Water-types such as Samurott and Seismitoad. However, Lapras can play the role of an offensive tank, especially with its decent bulk and BoltBeam coverage. Finally, Lapras's Ice typing also allows it to check some of the threatening Ice-types in the tier. Lapras is a fair Pokemon in the tier, as it is able tocan perform multiple roles decently; however, but it isn't an amazing one either as it doesn't do onecannot perform any of thingem exceptionally well.</p>

[SET]
name: Bulky Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Substitute / Frost Breath
item: Leftovers / Choice Specs
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Modest
evs: 200 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 44 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Access to Thunderbolt and a STAB Ice Beam is Lapras's niche. Water Absorb is a great ability, granting Lapras an immunity to Water-type moves and restoring 25% of its health when hit by one; t. Thus, there is a great incentive to switch Lapras into a predicted Water-type attack so it cand check the opponent. Lapras's great bulk lets it take on the powerful Water- and Ice-types in the tier with ease, especially from Samurott. Hydro Pump is an obvious STAB option and helps take down Fire-, Rock-, and Ground-type opponents, for example such as Golem, Probopass, Torkoal, and Charizard. Thunderbolt is a great move to take downhat smashes the Water-types that Lapras checks, likeincluding Samurott, and Alomomola, and more. Ice Beam is used for defeating Grass-types that threaten Lapras, for examplesuch as Roselia and Vileplume, and potentially KO them before they have a chance to strike back. Substitute is used to ease prediction on the Leftovers set and can also block status moves. Lapras can take the opportunity to set upset up with Substitutes on against Alomomola or when it forces a switch. Frost Breath should only be used with Choice Specs, as it allowings Lapras to break through opponents with Special Defense boosts thanks to its 100% critical hit rate.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The 44 Speed EVs allows Lapras to outspeed Roselia and Alomomola. T, while the rest of the EVs are put into its bulk. Some EVs are invested into theLapras's defenses rather than having all EVits put into HP, as this results in an overall bulkier spread for Lapras, while h. Having an HP stat indivisible by 4 tofour reduces the damage Lapras takens from Stealth Rock. With the given EVs you, Lapras can survive two Life Orb-boosted Hidden Power Grasses from Samurott after Leftovers recovery, a +2 Megahorn after Stealth Rock damage, and even a +2 Life Orb-boosted Hidden Power Grass from LO Gorebyss given that it is at full HP, which. This is useful to note as one of Lapras's roles is to check offensive Water-types.</p>

<p>Roselia and Garbodor are great teammates for Lapras, being able toas they can provide entry hazard support and also soak up Toxic Spikes, which cripple Lapras. Garbodor is a fantastic check againsto Fighting-types whichthat threaten Lapras, while Roselia is great forcan takinge on Electric-types and fast Grass-types such as Serperior and Simisage. Rapid Spin support is nice to have for Lapras. Torkoal is the best spinner to pair with Lapras as it resists Grass-type moves, can spin away entry hazards, and can set up its own entry hazards. Meanwhile, Lapras can reliably take down the Water-, and Ground-types that try to force Torkoal out with Toxic orand Ice Beam, respectively. Some Ground-types lisuch as Golem make Golem, whofor great teammates, as they are immune to Electric-type moves and can take Rock-type attacks for Lapras, whileaimed at Lapras can take any Water- and Ice-type attack for it, make f. Furthermore, they can set up Stealth Rock to support greathe teammates. TheseIn return, Lapras can also set up Stealth Rock to supptake Water- and Ice-type attacks fort its theam. Sawk and Torterra deserve special mentions for being greatas partners withfor Lapras, as both have a resistingance to Rock-type attacks and can eashave the ability to prevent opposing entry hazards from being set up thanks to Mold Breaker and Bullet Seed, respectively. Meanwhile, Lapras can handle the Ice-type attacks that Torterra hates.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>A specially defensive set can be used for Lapras to take on Gorebyss and special Samurott. A physically defensive set can be usedallow it to beat Swords Dance Samurott and Ground-types more easierly. However, Walrein will beis more adept at this role due to its greater bulk and access to Encore.</p>

<p>Lapras has a fair base 85 Attack and access to Dragon Dance, andso it can run a physically offensive set with Waterfall, Ice Shard, and Drill Run withas its fair Base 85 Attacking moves. However, its Bbase 60 Speed leaves much to be desired, and it can be outsped and KOed by multiple Choice Scarf users and KOed even after a boost or two. MeanwhLapras can utilize, a physical Curse set can be used to take advantage of Lapras'its great bulk, but Lapras'its multitude of weaknesses to common typattacking types such as Fighting and Grass makes it unable to set up safely. Lapras has access to Heal Bell toand can act as a cleric, but thisuch a role is generally done better by bulkier teammates likesuch as Musharna and Audino. A set with Hydration and Rest set may look cool onat first sight, but Lapras will rarely stay in to utilize thetake advantage of rain turns, as it is easily forced out due to its poor defensive typing.</p>

[Checks & Counters]

<p>As Ice is a poor defensive typing, Lapras gainhas multiple weaknesses which allowthat make it easy to be forced out easily. The extLapras's weakness to Stealth Rock and vulnerability to Spikes leaves Lapras it severely weakened after a few switch-ins. Fast Pokemon with STAB super effective STAB moves against Lapras can achieve thiscan force it out if they switch in safely,: prime examples include Ludicolo, Electabuzz, Sawk, and Primeape. As Lapras can easily getbe worn down by Substitute, entry hazards damage (especially Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock), and offensive pressure, care should be taken to minimisze the amount of residual damage it taken by Lapras. In general, Lapras is too slow to check offensive teams, yet lacks the power to break stall teams. EiBother one of these team archetypes will bare able to handle Lapras easily.</p>

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[blitzlefan]

Metal Sonic DONE! :)

 

[Raseri]

uploaded :D