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Discussion in 'Global Battle Union' started by PungentFruit, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. PungentFruit


    Jan 17, 2011
    HP: 80
    Atk: 90
    Def: 80
    SAtk: 130
    SDef: 110
    Spe: 110

    Levitate: Damage dealing Ground-type moves have no effect on this Pokémon. Cannot be trapped by Arena Trap ability. Takes no damage from Spikes.
    Moves (open)
    [B]Level-Up Moves[/B]
    1 Psywave		
    5 Heal Block	
    10 Helping Hand
    15 Safeguard		
    20 DragonBreath	
    25 Protect		
    30 Refresh		
    35 Luster Purge		
    40 Zen Headbutt	
    45 Recover		
    50 Psycho Shift	
    55 Dragon Dance	
    60 Psychic		
    65 Heal Pulse	
    70 Telekinesis		
    75 Power Split		
    80 Dragon Pulse	
    85 Memento
    [B]TM/HMs Learned[/B]
    TM01 Hone Claws
    TM02 Dragon Claw
    TM03 Psyshock		
    TM04 Calm Mind	
    TM05 Roar		
    TM06 Toxic		
    TM10 Hidden Power		
    TM11 Sunny Day		
    TM13 Ice Beam	
    TM15 Hyper Beam	
    TM16 Light Screen		
    TM17 Protect	
    TM18 Rain Dance		
    TM19 Telekinesis	
    TM20 Safeguard		
    TM21 Frustration		
    TM22 SolarBeam		
    TM24 Thunderbolt		
    TM25 Thunder		
    TM26 Earthquake		
    TM27 Return		
    TM28 Psychic		
    TM30 Shadow Ball		
    TM32 Double Team	
    TM33 Reflect		
    TM37 Sandstorm	
    TM40 Aerial Ace		
    TM42 Facade
    TM44 Rest		
    TM45 Attract		
    TM48 Round	
    TM53 Energy Ball		
    TM57 Charge Beam		
    TM65 Shadow Claw	
    TM67 Retaliate		
    TM68 Giga Impact		
    TM70 Flash		
    TM73 Thunder Wave	
    TM77 Psych Up		
    TM78 Bulldoze		
    TM85 Dream Eater
    TM86 Grass Knot	
    TM87 Swagger		
    TM90 Substitute		
    HM01 Cut		
    HM02 Fly	
    HM03 Surf		
    HM05 Waterfall		
    HM06 Dive	
    [B]Egg Moves[/B]
    [B]Pre-Evolution Moves[/B]
    [B]Move Tutor Moves[/B]
    Draco Meteor
    [B]Other Gen IV Moves:[/B]
    TM03 Water Pulse
    TM34 Shock Wave
    TM43 Secret Power
    TM47 Steel Wing
    TM51 Roost
    TM58 Endure
    TM78 Captivate
    TM82 Sleep Talk
    TM83 Natural Gift
    HM05 DPPt: Defog
    HM05 HGSS: Whirlpool
    [B]Gen IV Tutor Moves[/B]
    Magic Coat
    Fury Cutter
    Icy Wind
    Last Resort

    GBU Singles Sets

    Special Sweeper

    Latios @ Life Orb / Expert Belt
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
    - Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
    - Hidden Power [Ground] / Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Psyshock / Psychic
    - Grass Knot / Thunderbolt / Recover / Substitute

    • With Latios' array of possible moves, it has a lot of sweeping opportunities.
    • Life Orb or Expert Belt are great items with Latios to make it even more powerful.

    GBU Doubles Sets


    Latios @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk) / Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
    - Psychic / Psyshock
    - Shadow Ball / Trick
    - Hidden Power [Ground] / Ice Beam

    • Latios serves as a tremendous sweeper with it's very high special attack and speed.
    • Latios has an array of moves and STAB choices to be the ultimate special sweeper.
    • With a Choice Scarf, it reaches a very high speed of 243 with a Modest Nature at Level 50 which makes a Choice Scarf a very viable option.
    • With Choice Specs, Latios becomes an outstanding Special Sweeper that can deal loads of damage. At Level 50, its speed reaches 178 and Special Attack, 273 with a Timid Nature at Level 50.
    • With its huge specially-based moveset options, Latios can have a ton of great niches in this metagame.


    Special Sweeper

    Latios @ Life Orb / Dragon Gem
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
    - Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
    - Shadow Ball / Hidden Power [Ground]
    - Psychic / Psyshock
    - Protect

    • A Life Orb Latios is perfect for a late game or early game sweeper.
    • With its very large movepool, there are numerous options to utilize its huge special attack and very good speed.
    • The Life Orb makes up for that lost power when given a Timid Nature and unlike the Specs or Scarf set, Latios can continue attacking with different moves to adjust to the situation at hand.
  2. Solace

    Solace cheap thrills
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    Nov 4, 2009
    edited some formatting

    also i think you should slash surf somewhere in there, as latios uses it greatly and can help it out in doubles vs the common users who get STAB off of heat wave, rock slide, and earthquake.
  3. soul_survivor


    Sep 12, 2010
    I've seen many people use hidden power fire, because latios is walled by mons like excadrill, and ferrathorn. Basically most steel pokemon.
  4. Jibaku

    Jibaku Who let all these plants survive??
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    Dec 13, 2005
    I use two Latios sets in singles

    Latios @ Choice Specs
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf
    - Dragon Pulse / Thunderbolt
    - Trick

    Latios @ Expert Belt / Life Orb
    - Draco Meteor
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Grass Knot
    - Psychic / Psyshock / Recover / Substitute

    Latios enjoys the lack of Jirachi in this metagame, although it has to deal with Metagross being more common. The first set performs better against gimmicky teams, because a few can withstand Specs Draco Meteors or Dragon Pulses, while Trick messes up any random Sucker Punches (hi there, Mawile -__-). I prefer Dragon Pulse to Thunderbolt because of its reliability (and since locking into Thunderbolt where Ground sweepers are very common can easily spell your doom). The second set works best if you want to take out Latios' usual counters such as Scizor, Ferrothorn, Metagross and Tyranitar, but may have issues murdering things with Draco Meteor (i.e Zapdos, Rotom) if you go with EBelt, and loses out on the base 110 speedtie . I prefer Life Orb personally, but I already have the orb given to someone else, and Expert Belt is actually not a bad substitute. I haven't tested Substitute yet, but it seems nice in theory because Latios gets targeted by Sucker Punch a -lot- in my experience

    Other than that, this should be self explanatory.
  5. sandman

    sandman Bum bum bum bum
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    May 11, 2007
    I would slash Trick onto the doubles Choices set. Trick can be pretty good for screwing up Cresselia and other supportors, steal Dusclops's Evolite and give it a Scarf and many other uses.
  6. muffinhead

    muffinhead b202 wifi vgc
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    Mar 6, 2010
    latios loves having hp ground for metagross and heatran, and even chandelure in some cases.
  7. cosmicexplorer

    cosmicexplorer pewpewpew
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    May 25, 2010
    Dragon gem is a nice alternative to life orb or Choice Specs, and it doesn't leave you locked in like Choice Specs, allowing you to use Protect alongside Draco Meteor and other moves.
  8. Ashenlock


    Aug 17, 2007
    Agreed. Choice Specs isn't super-common in Double Battles, and is usually passed up for Life Orb or Dragon Gem.
  9. Solace

    Solace cheap thrills
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    Nov 4, 2009
    i'm also curious as to why shadow ball on latios

    i dont think it really gives it anymore benefit, and there are probably better move choices. (LIKE SURF!)

    also i would slash psyshock before psychic, so it isn't totally special wall bait
  10. JRank

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    Jan 16, 2010
    Yeah HP Ground is awesome, if I run Latios I usually run something like Dragon Pulse / HP Ground / Psyshock @ Life Orb / Haban Berry, and it is strong, very strong.

    Yeah Dragon Gem makes Draco Meteor kill everything that doesn't resist it, and even some of those! Also makes Dragon Pulse great.

    (yes I know I just seconded other people but they were good suggestions and I wanted re-iterate them so people would know how great HP Ground and Dragon Gem is!)
  11. ~Golden Emp

    ~Golden Emp

    Mar 31, 2009
    Don't forget the Singles Sweeping Latios =D

    @Life Orb
    EV's: 252 spatk, 252 spe, 4 def
    Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    Ice Beam/HP Fire

    Psyshock OHKO's most Conkeldurr's (Well, I've seen a lot that invest in hp and special defense)
  12. PungentFruit


    Jan 17, 2011
    Edited in the changes and suggestions.

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