Lileep (Sandless Special Sponge) [GP 2/2]

Al_Alchemist

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[QC 2/2] [Diana, Aerrow]
[GP 2/2] [Zystral, jc104]

[Done]



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[SET]
name: Sandless Special Sponge
move 1: Energy Ball
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Recover
move 4: Stealth Rock / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Calm
evs: 148 HP / 140 Def / 32 SpA / 140 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is the best set Lileep can run when you can't afford to run Hippopotas on your team. With its already high defensive stats, it can tank special attacks with or without a sandstorm boost. Lileep is a great counter to several top threats, such as Chinchou, Gastly, and Staryu. However, Ferroseed will often provide stiff competition if you are looking for a counter to the aforementioned Pokemon. Although Lileep lacks Iron Barbs and an arguably better secondary typing in Steel, it makes up for it with several key traits. It lacks any kind of weakness to Fire-type attacks, which is appreciated, as Ferroseed's popularity has caused them to be preferred over Ice attacks. With Energy Ball and Hidden Power Fire, it gets excellent coverage in just two moves, hitting two of the previously mentioned Pokemon for super effective damage, while also 2HKOing Ferroseed to prevent setup. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Lileep insane longevity, making sure your opponent will not be able to take it down easily. Lileep's amazing ability Storm Drain also grants it immunity to Water-type attacks, along with a boost to Special Attack should it be hit by one. The last moveslot depends on what your team would appreciate more; Stealth Rock is always a good entry hazard for any team, while Toxic lets Lileep stall opponents to death. Of course, if your team already has a Stealth Rock user, Toxic would be the superior option.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs given are used to maximize Lileep's overall defenses with Eviolite, while taking off one point of HP in order to gain an additional stat point in both Speed and Special Attack. Hidden Power Ice is an option over Hidden Power Fire to hit Flying- and Dragon-types for super effective damage. However, Hidden Power Fire has superior coverage, letting Lileep actually touch Ferroseed and other Steel-types. Unfortunately, Giga Drain is illegal with Storm Drain, but if you don't mind losing your immunity to Water-type attacks you can use it over Energy Ball. If you decide to forgo Storm Drain, you must be aware that Lileep will struggle to counter Pokemon such as Carvanha, as without an immunity to Water-type moves the damage will add up fast, even with Eviolite and Recover. Lileep's dual typing of Rock/Grass leaves it at the mercy of the plethora of Fighting- and Ice-type attacks in Little Cup, so Pokemon such as Mienfoo and Slowpoke are great teammates. In fact, a core of Slowpoke, Lileep, and a bulky Fighting-type has great synergy, each covering the others' weaknesses, and provides the team with one of the strongest defensive backbones in Little Cup.</p>
 

Diana

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I've been owned by this thing so many times. It just plain works.


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Zystral

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[SET]
name: Sandless Special Sponge
move 1: Energy Ball
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Recover
move 4: Stealth Rock / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Calm
evs: 148 HP / 140 Def / 32 SpA / 140 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is the best set Lileep can run when you can't afford to run Hippopotas support on your team. With its already high defensive stats, it can still tank Special Attacks with or without a Sand Stream boost. Lileep is a great counter to several top threats, such as Carvanha, Chinchou, Misdreavus, and Staryu. However, Lileep will often find itself in competition for a counter role, for the previously mentioned Pokemon, on your team with Ferroseed. However, Ferroseed will often provide stiff competition if you are looking for a counter to the aforementioned Pokemon. Although Lileep lacks Iron Barbs and an arguably better secondary typing in Steel, it makes up for it by possessing several key traits that Ferroseed does not. It lacks any kind of weakness to Fire-Type attacks, which is appreciated, due to Ferroseed's popularity causing Fire-type attacks to crop up over Ice Beam to hit the 4x weakness. are moves that have taken priority over Ice Beam on common movesets, thanks to Ferroseed's popularity 4x weakness to the it. With Energy Ball and Hidden Power Fire, it gets excellent coverage in just two moves, hitting three out of four of the previously mentioned Pokemon for super effective damage, while also being able to 2HKO Ferroseed so it can't set up on you. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Lileep insane longevity, making sure your opponent will not be able to take it down easily. Lileep's amazing ability Storm Drain also grants it an immunity to Water-type attacks, along with a boost in Special Attack should you get hit by one. The last moveslot depends on what your team would appreciate more; Stealth Rock is always a good set up hazard for any team, while Toxic provides Lileep with the ability to Toxic-stall opponents in order to beat them more easily. Of course, if your team already has a Stealth Rock user, Toxic would be the superior option.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs given are used to better maximize Lileep's overall defenses with Eviolite, while taking off one point of HP in order to gain an individual stat point in both Speed and Special Attack. Hidden Power Ice is an option over Hidden Power Fire for its ability to OHKO Gligar on average, while also being able to hit other Flying-Types for super effective damage. However, Hidden Power Fire has superior coverage, along with it being able to actually touch Ferroseed and other Steel-Types. Unfortunately, Giga Drain is illegal with Storm Drain, but if you don't mind losing your immunity to Water-Type attacks you can use it over Energy Ball. If you do decide to forgo Storm Drain, you must be aware that absorbing Water-Type attacks from the Pokemon that you're supposed to be countering, will be significantly harder, since a lack of resistance to those attacks will take a huge toll on your health, even with Eviolite and Recover. Lileep's dual typing of Rock/Grass leaves it at the mercy of the plethora of Fighting- and Ice-Type attacks in Little Cup, so Pokemon such as Meditite and Slowpoke are great teammates. In fact, a core of Slowpoke, Lileep, and a bulky Fighting-Type have great synergy together, resisting each others weaknesses, and provides the team with one of the strongest defensive backbones in Little Cup.</p>
 

Al_Alchemist

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is a Past SPL Champion
Thanks guys, this only needs one more GP check and stamp.

@Zystral: I also went through and changed all the capital "t's" in X-Type and X-Types to a lowercase "t", since you lower cased the "Water-type" one, I assume the other ones follow the same rule. Please correct me if I'm wrong though.
 

jc104

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[SET]
name: Sandless Special Sponge
move 1: Energy Ball
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Recover
move 4: Stealth Rock / Toxic
item: Eviolite
ability: Storm Drain
nature: Calm
evs: 148 HP / 140 Def / 32 SpA / 140 SpD / 16 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is the best set Lileep can run when you can't afford to run Hippopotas support on your team. With its already high defensive stats, it can still tank special attacks with or without a sandstorm Sand Stream boost. Lileep is a great counter to several top threats, such as Carvanha, Chinchou, Misdreavus, and Staryu. However, Ferroseed will often provide stiff competition if you are looking for a counter to the aforementioned Pokemon. Although Lileep lacks Iron Barbs and an arguably better secondary typing in Steel, it makes up for it with by possessing several key traits that Ferroseed does not. It lacks any kind of weakness to Fire-type attacks, which is appreciated, due to as Ferroseed's popularity has caused them to become extremely common causing Fire-type attacks to crop up over Ice Beam to hit the 4x weakness. With Energy Ball and Hidden Power Fire, it gets excellent coverage in just two moves, hitting three out of four of the previously mentioned Pokemon for super effective damage, while also being able to 2HKOing Ferroseed to prevent setup so it can't set up on you. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Lileep insane longevity, making sure your opponent will not be able to take it down easily. Lileep's amazing ability Storm Drain also grants it an immunity to Water-type attacks, along with a boost to in Special Attack should it be you get hit by one. The last moveslot depends on what your team would appreciate more; Stealth Rock is always a good set up entry hazard for any team, while Toxic lets Lileep stall opponents to death provides Lileep with the ability to Toxic-stall opponents in order to beat them more easily. Of course, if your team already has a Stealth Rock user, Toxic would be the superior option.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs given are used to better maximize Lileep's overall defenses with Eviolite, while taking off one point off HP in order to gain an additional individual stat point in both Speed and Special Attack. Hidden Power Ice is an option over Hidden Power Fire for its ability to OHKO Gligar most of the time on average, while also being able to hit hitting other Flying-types for super effective damage. However, Hidden Power Fire has superior coverage, letting Lileep along with it being able to actually touch Ferroseed and other Steel-types. Unfortunately, Giga Drain is illegal with Storm Drain, but if you don't mind losing your immunity to Water-type attacks you can use it over Energy Ball. If you do decide to forgo Storm Drain, you must be aware that absorbing Water-Type attacks from the Pokemon that you're supposed to be countering, will be significantly harder, since a lack of without a resistance these to those attacks will take a huge toll on Lileep's your health, even with Eviolite and Recover. Lileep's dual typing of Rock/Grass leaves it at the mercy of the plethora of Fighting- and Ice-type attacks in Little Cup, so Pokemon such as Meditite and Slowpoke are great teammates. In fact, a core of Slowpoke, Lileep, and a bulky Fighting-type have has great synergy together, each covering resisting the others' each others weaknesses, and provides the team with one of the strongest defensive backbones in Little Cup.</p>


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edit: discussed a few things; it's all good.
 

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