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Middle Cup Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Stark Mountain' started by Zystral, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. doominic77

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    Ok, whoever can take all the stats from all MC legal pokemon (stats on top of page 13) and average them gets a Doom point which does something (don't know yet) and helps out the MC community.

    Here's a start 66/??/??/??/??/??

    E: On another note IMO the fact B/W are out merits a Mark II
  2. NixHex

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    This thread hasn't been active much since Uncharted Territory arrived, but I thought I better post this soon. I am proud to announce the arrival of a dedicated Middle Cup Shoddy Battle server, complete with a ladder! Here's how to connect.
    On the Shoddy Battle Welcome Window, click 'Advanced' below 'Connect' and enter this information:

    Host: middlecup.net
    Port: 30000

    There will not be a PokéLab server at this time (meaning new Pokémon/moves/items etc.), because there has not been a guide written and I don't really know how to do it myself - shouldn't be much more difficult than setting up a shoddy battle server though, so when the appropriate time comes, it will be updated.

    Deep gratitude to user Duck92 who has been a constant presence of support in the Shoddy Battle subforum and did a majority of the work in setting this up for me (no no precious, for us).

    Some things to address
    -Level 50 Clause and level-up moveset restrictions have not been implemented, but will be shortly. Use the honor code, people.
    -I am relearning PHP so I can make a leaderboard display.
    -A fancy Pokémon usage statistics page is not viewable at this time.
    -I am still quite new to this server stuff and that knowledge will come in time. It will still be fun to at least have a ladder, though!
    -I contacted Cathy about having the server listed on the front screen server list, but for now you have to insert the info manually.
    -If the welcome screen shows 5 dudes, don't worry, it's still the Middle Cup server. I will change the welcome screen later!


    So, have fun guys!
  3. Alexa888

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    From the little MC I have played Metang seems to be on a good choice. It is certainly an anti-metagame Pokemon. It has Pursuit for Haunter/Kadabra, Bullet Punch for Rhydon and a relatively strong Meteor Mash. Slap a Choice Band on to make up for 75 Base Attack and you're good to go.

    Nothing strikes me as outright Uber so far, but Rhydon definitely needs a suspect test.
  4. waffles101

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    I agree with many of your things ( good pokes etc.) but your all saying that chansey and rhydon are broken but chansey is beaten by any stall breaker (e.g. Monferno, electabuzz, SubSplit haunter) and scarfchomp outspeeds +2 Rhydon with EVs left over. I havent had too much trouble with P2 but I havent met an apparently scary agility set.

    My Votes

    Rhydon: OU
    Chansey: OU
    Porygon2: IDK
  5. NixHex

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    We're listed!

    The Shoddy Battle Server has been listed!
    It should be listed on the Shoddy Battle server list screen as "Middle Cup" with a capacity of 100. If for some reason you don't see us listed, you can connect manually to shoddy.middlecup.net:30000.

    As previously noted, HG/SS moves are available, as well as a leaderboard. Credit to Duck92 again for his endless work and Bearzly for the short response!

  6. pizzapie

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    Nice job on this guys.
  7. Dmarcin

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    I don't see how in any way NU is a 'gimmick' tier. Though I've never tried it, so I can't speak from experience, I don't believe CAP is a 'gimmick' either. From experience, I can tell you, NU has a small, yet growing community, and is far from gimmicky. I suppose you think UU is gimmicky too, because of it's lack of Azelf and Scizor?

    On another note, I have to agree with you that this seems like a bad idea. I don't think there's really room for it. From what I can see, there'll be about 20 usable Pokemon including 'mons from the release of B/W, and many of them appear broken to me. Things like P2-Chansey-Dusknoir cores will be nearly unbreakable. If some of those walls were to be banned, 'mons like Pikachu, Magneton, Haunter, Kadabra, ect would run rampant, so basicallly it's let 3-4 Pokemon wall everything in the tier, or ban them and let another 3-4 Pokemon sweep everything in the tier.. Seems to me like a cool idea, but I just don't see it working until there's more Pokemon for it to work with.

    EDIT: Let me know if anything I said has already been mentioned, I only read the first page and can't be bothered to read 10 more right now.

    EDIT2: Didn't realize I bumped a 20 day old thread, sorry.
  8. doominic77

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    Thinking of creating Middle Cup Discussion Thread Mark 2 on Dragonspiral Tower. Also can someone give me a link to the MC Forums.

    Yes, I know I'm bumping a 5 month old thread.

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