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Extreme Speed is cool, but purely physical Pikachu is still probably its worst set. Volt Tackle hits hard, but you will in turn be taking massive recoil damage to Pikachu's miniscule HP stat, and your coverage options are limited to... Brick Break and Iron Tail. Stick with special Pikachu, or mixed if only for Extreme Speed.
 
is extremespeed worth giving up lightningrod on pikachu though?

also is surf pikachu legal? i'm pretty sure it isn't... >_>"
 
[08:43] <&TIBot> Gen 4 | Level 40 | Male | Mild | Surf / Thunder / Protect | Cherish Ball

Basically, no. I mean, it's legal if you want to run Mild Pikachu, but uh, yea.

But Pikachu probably isn't great anyways. It's fast, but not quite fast enough, outsped by common threats including Haunter, Frogadier, Electabuzz, Magmar, Kadabra, etc. Definitely not the joke it is everywhere else, but it's not really anything to write home about either.
 
[08:43] <&TIBot> Gen 4 | Level 40 | Male | Mild | Surf / Thunder / Protect | Cherish Ball

Basically, no. I mean, it's legal if you want to run Mild Pikachu, but uh, yea.

But Pikachu probably isn't great anyways. It's fast, but not quite fast enough, outsped by common threats including Haunter, Frogadier, Electabuzz, Magmar, Kadabra, etc. Definitely not the joke it is everywhere else, but it's not really anything to write home about either.
That's not the point. i'm pretty sure you can't send pokemon with HM moves over from Gen 4 to Gen 5, so you can't transfer them to gen 6...
 

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Chansey is so annoying - it just doesn't die. I wish it were banned. Porygon2 I'm not so sure about; at least it can be toxiced.

People really need to try out Eelektrik!

Eelektrik @ Assault Vest
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Gentle Nature
- Knock Off
- Volt Switch
- Aqua Tail
- Giga Drain

It's a great pivot, special wall, physical attacker, and special attacker in one, and due to its lack of weaknesses, takes physical hits decently. Knock off messes up so many pokemon in the tier, and the other three moves wreck most of the ones who don't care about knock off.
 
on a slight note, why gentle nature? i'd probably go for something like sassy over gentle =/
 
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some impressions:

swadloon is fucking annoying to play as, but sticky web is just so good. eh, worth the tradeoff i guess. still, fucking swadloon
marill is pretty shitty. i mean, belly drum marill shits over everything, but when max attack marill is like base 93 attack with max investment it just doesn't really seem very promising. =/
it's not like azumarill's groudon-level attack in OU where it still works without belly drum or CB, marill is a completely different story.
when fully invested his attack is still like, just 4 points higher than uninvested pikachu ffs
combusken is pretty broke
pikachu is an amazing nuke that needs SR to kill things (but is still a pretty damn good nuke otherwise)
 
If anyone is looking for a ridiculous wallbreaker, check out Specs SP Charmeleon. Requires sun support obviously, and Charmeleon is pretty frail and his 80 base speed is somewhat lacking, but...

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Chansey in Sun: 336-396 (47.7 - 56.2%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Not even the most specially defensive Chansey can switch in safely.

Movepool is pretty shallow, only having access to Dragon Pulse and Hidden Power, but for the most part Fire Blast is all you need, as even resisted hits have 135 123.75 BP after STAB and Sun boosts. Dragon Pulse is your best attack against any Dragon type, HP Grass hits Rock/Ground and Water/Ground types, and HP Rock hits Fletchinder and Flash Fire Lampent. Flamethrower is filler in the last slot if you need more end-game reliability.

For support, Golbat, Magneton, and Fletchinder are probably the best mons with access to the Sunny Day - U-turn combo. Since you'll be setting up sun anyways, picking another abuser is also a good idea, like Chlorophyll - Growth Weepinbell or Ivysaur.

EDIT: Some more calcs. Note that these are all against 252/252+ spreads with Leftovers or Assault Vest equipped, several of which are highly unlikely to be the standards for the mon in question.

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Wartortle in Sun: 199-234 (61.8 - 72.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Golbat in Sun: 415-490 (117.2 - 138.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Rhydon in Sun: 183-216 (44.2 - 52.1%) -- 15.2% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Rhydon in Sun: 356-420 (85.9 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Chansey in Sun: 336-396 (47.7 - 56.2%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Magmar in Sun: 192-227 (57.4 - 67.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Magmar in Sun: 128-151 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Dragonair in Sun: 216-255 (66.2 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Dragonair in Sun: 298-352 (91.4 - 107.9%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Togetic in Sun: 336-396 (107 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Marill in Sun: 259-306 (75.2 - 88.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Thick Fat Piloswine in Sun: 474-558 (117.3 - 138.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Thick Fat Piloswine in Sun: 314-372 (77.7 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Porygon2 in Sun: 358-423 (95.7 - 113.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Marshtomp in Sun: 216-255 (62.7 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Hidden Power Grass vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Marshtomp in Sun: 420-496 (122 - 144.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Lairon in Sun: 348-409 (107.4 - 126.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Dusclops in Sun: 288-339 (101.4 - 119.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shelgon in Sun: 259-306 (77.5 - 91.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shelgon in Sun: 358-422 (107.1 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Prinplup in Sun: 204-241 (61.4 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Gurdurr in Sun: 348-409 (93 - 109.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Hidden Power Rock vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Lampent in Sun: 230-272 (70.9 - 83.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Floette in Sun: 351-414 (112.5 - 132.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sliggoo in Sun: 159-187 (46.7 - 55%) -- 13.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Sliggoo in Sun: 218-258 (64.1 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Sliggoo in Sun: 106-126 (31.1 - 37%) -- 77.4% chance to 3HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charmeleon Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Sliggoo in Sun: 146-174 (42.9 - 51.1%) -- 5.9% chance to 2HKO


EDIT2: I had been running HP Rock myself out of fear of Lampent, but have yet to see one while Rhydon is everywhere. Probably switching to HP Grass.
 
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piloswine is pretty good. has better attack than marill (i swear i'm going to use marill as a comparison for attack from now on), LO ice shard hits like a truck, and it makes for a pretty good SR setter with decent bulk.

very few teams are packing wartortle or a defogger. this may be due to that most of them are pretty meh (wartortle is ok, but you have to use things like non-reckless staravia, nuzleaf for defog... basically the only good one is like golbat), but it allows me to get away with sticky web + SR pretty easily. suicide lead swadloon yolo

doublade is solid. probably the best out of the newcomers, aside from maybe sliggoo. a simple SD setup wrecks face, just like aegislash in OU. too bad it can't get away with 150 SpA shadow balls :( it basically can tank most priority attacks due to that defense: it's probably on par with deoxys-d!

also ran into some people running AV gurdurr. basically a poor man's version of AV conk, but it's effective and gets the job done. Knock Off screws over so many things its not even funny

the frog does not disappoint (i think...). unlike greninja in ou, frogadier has a lot less shit to deal with, so it's pretty good at tearing shit in here. also with protean we finally have a decent dark-type!
 
I've used Togetic and Prinplup as Defoggers and they're pretty good at doing their job. I got rid of it on Togetic however because I was sacrificing it for Roost. Wartotle's pretty good as a spinner, but it wishes it had Dark Pulse.

Some Pokemon to watch out for seem to be Kadabra, Doublade, Frogadier, Magneton, Chansey (ugh), Gurdurr, Machoke, Porygon2, Combusken and Rhydon. None of them seem too broken yet, but I could see Kadabra, Combusken, or Chansey being banned in the future. Combusken surprisingly hasn't been giving me too many problems.
 
Pls ban Light Ball, Pikachu is so fast and mows down the tier, bar Chansey, Porygon2, and Sliggoo lol.

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Some initial threats I've found so far:
- Bulky Without Eviolite Pokemon.

  • Porygon2, Chansey, Sliggoo, Dusclops
- Very Strong Pokemon lol.
  • Monferno, Fletchinder, LOMBRE
- Boosters
  • Duoblade, Marill (mini-azu), Whirlipede, Combusken
- Pikachu
  • Pikachu
 
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Actually I found Pikachu to be really underwhelming lol. It's strong like hell, but at the same time it's pretty frail. Two sets seem to stick out the best to me: Extremespeed, and good ol' light ball 4 attacks (with knock off over substitute or encore). It's no sweeper imo, but it's an effective wallbreaker and revenge killer. Definitely not overpowered especially when it can't use choice scarf and is basically outran by most scarfers!
 
It can literally just come in, wreck shit, get out. I am running Thunderbolt / Ice / Knock Off / Volt Switch and wow o.o Also, one huge threat I've noticed is Kadabra, it's the fastest in the tier, iirc? And has a great ability and a shit ton of power with Life Orb, only really priority and Duoblade can kill it.
 
pikachu is pretty much the literal definition of a glass cannon. it's also why i'm still questioning whether its actually /worth/ to give up lightningrod for extremespeed, because the electric immunity allows pikachu to actually offer some form of defensive synergy other than just "that random shit that dies'. it's a stretch, considering dragonair is the only other pokemon with extremespeed and it's not as strong as pikachu's. still, it offers the best special attack in the tier: it beats duosion by 10 points after factoring in light ball. the only thing about pikachu is that it can't have 252 evs in atk, spA and spe at the same time, which does limit his potential. it's good, but overpowered/broken? probably not. mind you, without light ball pikachu is probably one of the shittiest pokemon in the tier lol

doublade is love, doublade is life, doublade wrecks shit under sticky web it's not even funny. ok, maybe sticky web is a lot of support since it pretty much forces you to run swadloon (shitmon, can't even leech seed WTF??). but still, shadow sneak off 110 atk hits pretty hard, and it's also amazingly bulky to boot. easily my new favorite lol

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/middlecup-84531808

didn't know reckless staravia + defog was legal lel
 
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pikachu is pretty much the literal definition of a glass cannon. it's also why i'm still questioning whether its actually /worth/ to give up lightningrod for extremespeed, because the electric immunity allows pikachu to actually offer some form of defensive synergy other than just "that random shit that dies'. it's a stretch, considering dragonair is the only other pokemon with extremespeed and it's not as strong as pikachu's. still, it offers the best special attack in the tier: it beats duosion by 10 points after factoring in light ball. the only thing about pikachu is that it can't have 252 evs in atk, spA and spe at the same time, which does limit his potential. it's good, but overpowered/broken? probably not. mind you, without light ball pikachu is probably one of the shittiest pokemon in the tier lol

doublade is love, doublade is life, doublade wrecks shit under sticky web it's not even funny. ok, maybe sticky web is a lot of support since it pretty much forces you to run swadloon (shitmon, can't even leech seed WTF??). but still, shadow sneak off 110 atk hits pretty hard, and it's also amazingly bulky to boot. easily my new favorite lol

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/middlecup-84531808

didn't know reckless staravia + defog was legal lel

It isn't legal, just the simulator being glitched.
 
I did a few more battles.

Fletchinder seems like it has quite a lot of potential. Even without the unholy combination of FBBB SD + Acrobatics still hits pretty hard. If you want an item, maybe a bulky boosting role akin to ChestoRest or Sitrus might work.

Kadabra is pretty standard: Sash and LO sets are both very strong sets. Not much to say other than that it's essentially Alakazam-lite without Focus Blast.

Other mons to consider include Floette and maybe some of the other new comers. Quilladin seems interesting between spikes and bulletproof.

also FFS stop using gyro ball doublade, it doesn't even outdamage iron head against kadabra -.-"

edit: Chesnaught : i think i saw someone using fake out + extremespeed pikachu somewhere. looks like another illegality lol
 
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I started yesterday, and managed to climb to #2 on the ladder.

I have only seen 3 Chanseys in 28 battles. Chansey gets smashed to bits by Doublade and Combusken, so that might account for its unpopularity.
Another thing I noticed is that a lot of pokes work with a Scarf here. I've seen Scarf Porygon2, which took me by surprise. That thing is a monster if it gets a Special Attack boost from Download.

Gurdurr's also pretty special. It basically shuts down Piloswine, and cripples Dusclops, but Doublade beats it 1 on 1.
Frogadier is torture if Dusclops and Porygon2 are down.
Nothing else seems eye-popping in the tier.
 
also FFS stop using gyro ball doublade, it doesn't even outdamage iron head against kadabra -.-"
Are you sure you minimized Doublade's Spe?

252+ Atk Doublade Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kadabra: 160-190 (139.1 - 165.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Doublade Gyro Ball (119 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kadabra: 238-282 (206.9 - 245.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Gyro Ball does a lot more to Kadabra if you minimize Doublade's Spe IVs and use a -Spe nature. In fact:

252+ Atk Doublade Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Combusken: 51-60 (37.5 - 44.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Doublade Gyro Ball (81 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Combusken: 51-60 (37.5 - 44.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

That's a Jolly Combusken, which is about as slow as the opponent can get before Iron Head starts outdamaging Gyro Ball. I'd say that Gyro Ball is a perfectly fine option, but Iron Head is still a good move for more defensive targets (mainly Fairies like Togetic and Floette).
 
Are you sure you minimized Doublade's Spe?

252+ Atk Doublade Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kadabra: 160-190 (139.1 - 165.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Doublade Gyro Ball (119 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kadabra: 238-282 (206.9 - 245.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Gyro Ball does a lot more to Kadabra if you minimize Doublade's Spe IVs and use a -Spe nature. In fact:

252+ Atk Doublade Iron Head vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Combusken: 51-60 (37.5 - 44.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Doublade Gyro Ball (81 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Combusken: 51-60 (37.5 - 44.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

That's a Jolly Combusken, which is about as slow as the opponent can get before Iron Head starts outdamaging Gyro Ball. I'd say that Gyro Ball is a perfectly fine option, but Iron Head is still a good move for more defensive targets (mainly Fairies like Togetic and Floette).
ok pretty horrible derp on my part >_>"

still, shadow sneak is the option that i find myself spamming most often. doublade will rarely want to risk trying to gyro ball against haunters/kadabras (these two are OHKO'd by shadow sneak, unless sash kadabra), combusken/pikachu (resist), and frogadier (OHKO with dark pulse, +2 shadow sneak can OHKO frogadiers*), some of the most common pokemon afaik.

re: frogadier

run 20 defense evs. it means that if no hazards are up, doublade can never KO you with +2 shadow sneak, leaving you free to dark pulse his face. =P


i probably should try out gurdurr next. trying out fletch now... doesn't seem like i have a lot of success with it than other users.
 

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Zwelious @ Choice Band
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 HP/252 ATK/4 Def
Outrage
Superpower
Crunch
Head Smash

Zwelious' attacks are so strong after a hustle and choice band boost that with 252/252+ defenses, only Doublade, Grotle, Gurdurr, Rhydon and Quilladin are guareenteed to survive a hit from Zwelious, but even they are 2HKOed. Against 252/0 defenses, at least one of Zwelious' moves is guaranteed to OHKO any Pokemon. All of this power comes at cost though, with all of his attacks prone to missing, especially Head Smash with a measly 64% accuracy.

All Pokemon not mentioned are guaranteed to be OHKOed even with 252/252+ defenses

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Doublade: 260-308 (80.7 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rhydon: 306-362 (73.9 - 87.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Piloswine: 402-474 (99.5 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Seadra: 270-318 (85.9 - 101.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Pignite: 373-439 (97.1 - 114.3%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Servine: 313-369 (96.6 - 113.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Bayleef: 301-355 (92.9 - 109.5%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Croconaw: 301-355 (90.1 - 106.2%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eelektrik: 327-385 (97.9 - 115.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Grotle: 289-342 (81.6 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gurdurr: 289-342 (77.2 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Machoke: 327-385 (89.8 - 105.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Marshtomp: 327-385 (95 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Prinplup: 331-391 (99.6 - 117.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quilladin: 270-318 (82.8 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Wartortle: 301-355 (93.4 - 110.2%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Boldore: 338-398 (98.2 - 115.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Nidorina: 334-394 (97 - 114.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefairy: 333-392 (96.8 - 113.9%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Marill: 327-385 (95 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO


And for anyone who likes comparisons:


252+ Atk Choice Band Rayquaza Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 358-423 (104.9 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 363-427 (106.4 - 125.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO


252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 440-518 (129 - 151.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Zweilous Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 482-570 (141.3 - 167.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO



Fletchinder is another very interesting pokemon in this tier, having the most powerful priority move in the tier and it is great at revenge killing grass and fighting pokemon.
 
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