Dragons....As a secondaty question, sinc it would be dumb making another thread for this question: who is the most nerfed pokemon in the Gneration transition?
Dragons....As a secondaty question, sinc it would be dumb making another thread for this question: who is the most nerfed pokemon in the Gneration transition?
Say that to Hydreigon's face(s). Don't worry, he won't kill you - not as long as you have a Fairy-type at your side.The Pokemon that got crapped on the most this gen was metagross. Cause of the steel type Nerf he has two more weaknesses which makes it harder to fight a lot of Pokemon plus meteor mash got nerfed and metagross isn't exactly loving that.
That was a rumor. There are no known Servines in friend safari, so you cannot get contrary Serperior.I thought I saw a Contrary Seviper and a claim that you can get Servines from the Friend Safari in another thread? And now that both parents can pass on moves and abilities, you should be able to breed one with Dragon Pulse once the PokeBank opens.
To add to Stage7_4's comment, Dragon Pulse is NOT an egg move anyway. It's a BW2 tutor attack, which can't be passed down by breeding, therefore Contrary and Dragon Pulse won't ever be legal unless they make another change/addition to allow this (like introducing new move tutors, which have Dragon Pulse, in the XY sequels/follow-ups).I thought I saw a Contrary Seviper and a claim that you can get Servines from the Friend Safari in another thread? And now that both parents can pass on moves and abilities, you should be able to breed one with Dragon Pulse once the PokeBank opens.
Ho oh can utilize sun, it doesn't need sun whatsoever to function properly. That's a huge difference.I don't know what to think of Ho-Oh, fairy resistance and stealth rock nerf is god for it but then there is also the weather nerf. I wish it remains a powerhouse in the ubers, a check for Xerneas maybe and I hope sacred fire remains it's signature move, as much as I like Entei, I don't want it to get it
Same problem for metagross too wont be ou anymore I think was struggling alreadyOne of the most nerfed pokemon would have to be jirachi, its typing nolonger is nutruel to ghost and dark I think it will lose its poistion as one of the top ou threats
There is a bigger problem for Jirachi than newfound weakness. Now it can't longer do these paraflinch shenanigans because Electric types are immune to every form of paralysis, even from Thunder and Body Slam, and don't give the half of a fuck about Iron Head. Now Magnezone is its natural predator lol.One of the most nerfed pokemon would have to be jirachi, its typing nolonger is nutruel to ghost and dark I think it will lose its poistion as one of the top ou threats
More like floundering about at the bottom of OU, hoping for someone to have the decency to kick it back into the water. (aka UU)Same problem for metagross too wont be ou anymore I think was struggling already
Lets not be too hasty for Metagross! It is probably one of the best users of Assault Vest, since it doesn't need to invest in speed too much and can thus invest in SpDef for some great special bulk. It's Steel STAB gained new use since it can hit Fairies super-effectively, making it one of the best Togekiss counters in the game! It is Pursuit weak, but Tyranitar must be very wary since Meteor Mash is a OHKO. Metagross probably won't be OU, but considering it was useless last generation I think it will manage to find a nice this gen.More like floundering about at the bottom of OU, hoping for someone to have the decency to kick it back into the water. (aka UU)
NO dragon has improved this gen b/c of fairies, making outrage almost useless if the opponent has a fairy alive. Dragon claw seems almost mandatory.I don't know if he's most improved, but I feel like haxorus maybe got a bit of a new niche being the only OU dragon that I can think of that can currently learn poison jab. With poison jab + eq, I don't think there are any fairies that can switch into it. I feel like maybe a dragon dance set like:
Haxorus@yache berry
Jolly/adamant
Moldbreaker
-dragon dance
-outrage/dragon claw
-earthquake
-poison jab
Completely walled by skarmory, but I feel it's a set you could maybe build a team around.
I had heard that Outrage stops when it fails to hit a Fairy. In past generations when it failed to hit, confusion would only be caused if it's the final turn. Has this changed?NO dragon has improved this gen b/c of fairies, making outrage almost useless if the opponent has a fairy alive. Dragon claw seems almost mandatory.
nope it does not fail, it keeps going for 2-3 turns. Had a haxorus use outrage against my azumarillI had heard that Outrage stops when it fails to hit a Fairy. In past generations when it failed to hit, confusion would only be caused if it's the final turn. Has this changed?
Well I'm just pointing out that in last gen, in many cases there was very little reason to use haxorus over other dragons. I am just saying I think we may have finally found something haxorus can do that other dragons cannot do as well as he can, and that's kill fairies.NO dragon has improved this gen b/c of fairies, making outrage almost useless if the opponent has a fairy alive. Dragon claw seems almost mandatory.