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Most Overused, Abused, and Broken Leads
- Thread starter Salamence_4_Life
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Wobbufett (while I despise him), isn't the most terrifying lead anyways. A ton of leads like to sleep first turn, and a number of sweepers can take him on 1v1. Wobb is much better in the back because he needs to be switched in properly to work this magic.
I'd also say that there isn't anything broken with any leads, as that implies it goes up to Ubers.
On topic:
I see tons of Gengars and Bronzons.
I'd also say that there isn't anything broken with any leads, as that implies it goes up to Ubers.
On topic:
I see tons of Gengars and Bronzons.
Breloom was a really nice lead when everyone was leading with Weavile and such. It's still decent because of Protect for scouting obvious Choice pokemon, and allowing it to come in on status for the rest of the game. It also threatens Spore on slower pokemon, and generally sends TTar packing which is always a plus.
Which is why you Revenge him in after killing thier Skarmory/Hippowdon/Swampert :D
bronzong, especially with lum berry is a beast of a lead. it's not often that you have to switch out of it. perhaps not that useful in mid-late game though.
Jolteon can be pretty useful with combinations of Sub, BP and Yawn since with HP Ice and Thunderbolt he threatens most of the common leads.
I was waiting for someone to mention roserade. It's so effective when I use it, I'm gonna vote roserade as the most broken lead.
Sleep works too.
Amen to that. Having Leaf Storm off 125 base SAtk doesn't hurt either.
Roserade isn't broken.. at all.
Gengar, Salamence, and Gyarados are the most broken, abused and overused leads of the whole metagame. No others really compare.
The rest that are being posted, are just, favorites of everyone else, truthfully.
I'm seeing an alarming number of Gengar and Wobbuffet responses. You'd think that Pursuit/Sucker Punch Spiritomb would get more use because of them. Of course, I'm biased. :)
Gengar is by far the most common lead... annoying bitch
Most broken... is the lead I invented:
Celebi @ Scarf / Specs
*Leafstorm
*Psychic
*HP Ice
*Baton Pass
Scarf gets more surprise early kills, but specs is more useful later. Either way, he survives anything Gengar and Gyarados throws at him and beats them down faithfully. Baton Pass avoids pursuits from Tar and Weavile, and escapes those annoying wobs.
Most broken... is the lead I invented:
Celebi @ Scarf / Specs
*Leafstorm
*Psychic
*HP Ice
*Baton Pass
Scarf gets more surprise early kills, but specs is more useful later. Either way, he survives anything Gengar and Gyarados throws at him and beats them down faithfully. Baton Pass avoids pursuits from Tar and Weavile, and escapes those annoying wobs.
Gengar is the best, really, fast speed and hypnosis, with good special attack. It makes sure their lead does not get set up, Weavile kills most gengars, bare focus sash and scarf. I run sub on mine to beat yanmega at his own trick ( when they use protect )
Gengar is the lead I see the most, I usually always predict that they are going to hypnosis thus my lead usually holds a lum berry or a scarf to out run said Gengar. I have been using a RAPIDASH of all things as my lead lately at it has been working wonders for me against Gengars..
*Shoddy Battle Moveset*
Rapidash @ Lum Berry
~Will-O-wisp
~Hypnosis
~Agility
~Baton Pass
Jolly
EVs: 252 spd/ 252 hp
339 speed is fast, induces sleep, agility on the switch or burn on the switch either or, then pass. Sort of a risky play but I like it.
-Agility
*Shoddy Battle Moveset*
Rapidash @ Lum Berry
~Will-O-wisp
~Hypnosis
~Agility
~Baton Pass
Jolly
EVs: 252 spd/ 252 hp
339 speed is fast, induces sleep, agility on the switch or burn on the switch either or, then pass. Sort of a risky play but I like it.
-Agility
I think I should mention that Hypnosis and Baton Pass are an illegal combination on Rapidash, so that lead is not viable. :happybrain:
It works on shoddy, so sue me if I didn't know, just thought of it today in class while I was acting like a rapidash and poking my friends with my finger like a unicorn....
I know, but seriously what else am I going to do in a pre-calc class...
Learn? lol
You're confusing broken with overpowered.
Considering that, with roserade, I can Sleep my opp's lead, Tspike twice then KO it while they wait for it to wake up, sleep/KO/dent the next poke, possibly even a third, I'd say roserade is pretty broken as a lead. Focus sash makes it near foolproof, and the scenario I just mentioned happens a lot more than it should...
EDIT: Roserade isn't abusd or overused though. These two kinda mean the same thing. Maybe the title of the thread should be changed to Most Overused, Overpowered and Broken Leads...