Hey everyone! Me and erisia have taken the great effort to compiling the speed tier data for the NU tier, and we now have access to all of the data that we should possibly need to use to form the complete NU Speed Tier article. For now, this thread will act as a placeholder so that you guys who don't go on IRC know what's going.
To select the Pokemon that would be used for these speed tiers, we decided that, as the tier is incredibly diverse and a lot of low-usage Pokemon can still be viable sweepers, the cut-off would be 1% usage, and some random sweepers such as Whiscash and Beheeyem are included as well because they can still be threatening if they can set up. By making the usage cutoff so low, I hope that this results in us cutting some of the data for the final article instead of having to collect more. >:)
The raw data from minimum Speed Duosion to +2 Ninjask is attached as an .txt file. It's slightly messed up as I imported it from an OpenOffice file. It would be super-special-awesome if people could check over these figures and ensure there aren't any silly typos that would end up on the site. We tried to ensure this as much as possible when collecting the data, but there's probably still going to be a few mistakes somewhere.
The first step for making the article itself will be to get all of the data into the format required by the Smogon site. This will require a lot of time, so for now, this thread is just a placeholder to let everyone know what's going on. As the data is re-formatted, it'll appear in the hidden section below this paragraph, so you can keep tabs on how its going.
If there are any specific sets that the moderators do not think warrant being posted on the speed tiers, then let me know immediately so I don't end up doing the work for them.
After that (or before that, if Raseri feels like it), we'll start writing the introductory paragraphs for it, and then we should be done.
Hopefully this won't take too long. :)
EDIT: I've included the most likely sets for the three new drop downs and removed all of the Mesprit sets, it would still be appreciated if people could point out errors in the data so that I can correct them.
To select the Pokemon that would be used for these speed tiers, we decided that, as the tier is incredibly diverse and a lot of low-usage Pokemon can still be viable sweepers, the cut-off would be 1% usage, and some random sweepers such as Whiscash and Beheeyem are included as well because they can still be threatening if they can set up. By making the usage cutoff so low, I hope that this results in us cutting some of the data for the final article instead of having to collect more. >:)
The raw data from minimum Speed Duosion to +2 Ninjask is attached as an .txt file. It's slightly messed up as I imported it from an OpenOffice file. It would be super-special-awesome if people could check over these figures and ensure there aren't any silly typos that would end up on the site. We tried to ensure this as much as possible when collecting the data, but there's probably still going to be a few mistakes somewhere.
The first step for making the article itself will be to get all of the data into the format required by the Smogon site. This will require a lot of time, so for now, this thread is just a placeholder to let everyone know what's going on. As the data is re-formatted, it'll appear in the hidden section below this paragraph, so you can keep tabs on how its going.
Speed is the most significant stat in Pokemon. A single stat point can make or break a game at any moment. However, knowing whether or not it is safe to attack makes all the difference in a metagame such as Neverused, which is centered around bulky offense. One point too slow and all your investment is useless, but overshooting common Pokemon will lead to wasting EVs, either lowering the power or bulk of the Pokemon. While Neverused is blessed to have Pokemon as fast as Ninjask, it also has Pokemon as slow as Duosion inhabiting many teams. This list is designed to help players optimize the Speed of their Pokemon, as well as informing them of the common Speeds that Pokemon have, making it simpler to create EV spreads for your NU teams.
712 / Ninjask / 160 / Neutral / 0 / 2
682 / Jumpluff / 115 / +Spe / 216 / 2
658 / Floatzel / 115 / Neutral / 252 / 2
634 / Sawsbuck / 95 / +Spe / 252 /2
568 / Altaria, Drifblim / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 2
534 / Ninjask / 160 / Neutral / 0 / 1
524 / Butterfree / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 2
522 / Combusken / 55 / Neutral / 252 / 3
518 / Shiftry, Drifblim / 80 / Neutral / 252 / 2
512 / Fraxure / 67 / +Spe / 252 / 2
508 / Electabuzz / 105 / +Spe / 252 / 1
496 / Zebstrika / 116 / Neutral / 252 / 1
493 / Cinccino / 115 / Neutral / 252 / 1
492 / Charizard, Raichu / 100 / +Spe / 252 / 1
478 / Ludicolo, Victreebel / 70 / Neutral / 252 / 2
475 / Sawsbuck, Haunter / 95 / +Spe / 252 / 1
464 / Torterra / 58 / +Spe / 252 / 2
448 / Seismitoad / 74 / Neutral / 160 / 2
447 / Rotom-F, Rotom-S / 86 / +Spe / 252 / 1
446 / Huntail, Gorebyss / 52 / +Spe / 252 / 2
442 / Sawk / 85 / +Spe / 252 / 1
426 / Gardevoir, Braviary, Altaria / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 1
424 / Fraxure / 67 / Neutral / 168 / 2
418 / Combusken, Relicanth, Exeggutor, Ampharos / 55 / Neutral / 252 / 2
682 / Jumpluff / 115 / +Spe / 216 / 2
658 / Floatzel / 115 / Neutral / 252 / 2
634 / Sawsbuck / 95 / +Spe / 252 /2
568 / Altaria, Drifblim / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 2
534 / Ninjask / 160 / Neutral / 0 / 1
524 / Butterfree / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 2
522 / Combusken / 55 / Neutral / 252 / 3
518 / Shiftry, Drifblim / 80 / Neutral / 252 / 2
512 / Fraxure / 67 / +Spe / 252 / 2
508 / Electabuzz / 105 / +Spe / 252 / 1
496 / Zebstrika / 116 / Neutral / 252 / 1
493 / Cinccino / 115 / Neutral / 252 / 1
492 / Charizard, Raichu / 100 / +Spe / 252 / 1
478 / Ludicolo, Victreebel / 70 / Neutral / 252 / 2
475 / Sawsbuck, Haunter / 95 / +Spe / 252 / 1
464 / Torterra / 58 / +Spe / 252 / 2
448 / Seismitoad / 74 / Neutral / 160 / 2
447 / Rotom-F, Rotom-S / 86 / +Spe / 252 / 1
446 / Huntail, Gorebyss / 52 / +Spe / 252 / 2
442 / Sawk / 85 / +Spe / 252 / 1
426 / Gardevoir, Braviary, Altaria / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 1
424 / Fraxure / 67 / Neutral / 168 / 2
418 / Combusken, Relicanth, Exeggutor, Ampharos / 55 / Neutral / 252 / 2
407 / Electrode / 140 / +Spe / 216 / 0
406 / Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 28 / 2
393 / Butterfree / 70 / +Spe / 252 / 1
388 / Gardevoir, Braviary, Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 252 / 1
384 / Fraxure / 67 / +Spe / 252 / 1
383 / Swellow / 125 / +Spe / 252 / 0
378 / Armaldo / 45 / Neutral / 252 / 2
376 / Emboar / 65 / +Spe / 252 / 1
364 / Zebstrika / 116 / +Spe / 252 / 0
361 / Persian, Sneasel, Cinccino / 115 / +Spe / 252 / 0
359 / Swoobat / 114 / +Spe / 252 / 0
358 / Lairon, Camerupt / 40 / Neutral / 252 / 2
356 / Ninjask / 160 / Neutral / 0 / 0
354 / Zweilous / 58 / +Spe / 252 / 1
352 / Dragonair / 70 / Neutral / 0 / 2
350 / Tauros, Jumpluff / 110 / +Spe / 252 / 0
343 / Ursaring / 55 / +Spe / 252 / 1
341 / Jumpluff / 115 / +Spe / 216 / 0
341 / Swoobat / 114 / +Spe / 184 / 0
341 / Serperior / 113 / +Spe / 192 / 0
340 / Rampardos / 58 / +Spe / 220 / 1
340 / Shelgon / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 3
339 / Electabuzz, Rapidash, Kadabra / 105 / +Spe / 252 / 0
331 / Simipour, Simisear, Simisage / 101 / +Spe / 252 / 0
329 / Floatzel / 115 / Neutral / 252 / 0
328 / Charizard, Raichu / 100 / +Spe / 252 / 0
326 / Carracosta / 32 / Neutral / 252 / 2
324 / Swanna, Basculin / 98 / +Spe / 252 / 0
319 / Linoone / 100 / +Spe / 216 / 0
318 / Fraxure / 67 / Neutral / 168 / 1
406 / Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 28 / 2
393 / Butterfree / 70 / +Spe / 252 / 1
388 / Gardevoir, Braviary, Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 252 / 1
384 / Fraxure / 67 / +Spe / 252 / 1
383 / Swellow / 125 / +Spe / 252 / 0
378 / Armaldo / 45 / Neutral / 252 / 2
376 / Emboar / 65 / +Spe / 252 / 1
364 / Zebstrika / 116 / +Spe / 252 / 0
361 / Persian, Sneasel, Cinccino / 115 / +Spe / 252 / 0
359 / Swoobat / 114 / +Spe / 252 / 0
358 / Lairon, Camerupt / 40 / Neutral / 252 / 2
356 / Ninjask / 160 / Neutral / 0 / 0
354 / Zweilous / 58 / +Spe / 252 / 1
352 / Dragonair / 70 / Neutral / 0 / 2
350 / Tauros, Jumpluff / 110 / +Spe / 252 / 0
343 / Ursaring / 55 / +Spe / 252 / 1
341 / Jumpluff / 115 / +Spe / 216 / 0
341 / Swoobat / 114 / +Spe / 184 / 0
341 / Serperior / 113 / +Spe / 192 / 0
340 / Rampardos / 58 / +Spe / 220 / 1
340 / Shelgon / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 3
339 / Electabuzz, Rapidash, Kadabra / 105 / +Spe / 252 / 0
331 / Simipour, Simisear, Simisage / 101 / +Spe / 252 / 0
329 / Floatzel / 115 / Neutral / 252 / 0
328 / Charizard, Raichu / 100 / +Spe / 252 / 0
326 / Carracosta / 32 / Neutral / 252 / 2
324 / Swanna, Basculin / 98 / +Spe / 252 / 0
319 / Linoone / 100 / +Spe / 216 / 0
318 / Fraxure / 67 / Neutral / 168 / 1
317 / Sawsbuck, Leafeon, Haunter / 95 / +Spe / 252 / 0
313 / Combusken / 55/ Neutral / 252 / 1
310 / Octillery / 45 / +Spe / 252 / 1
306 / Pikachu, Zangoose, Vigoroth / 90 / +Spe /252 / 0
304 / Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 28 / 1
299 / Raichu / 100 / Neutral / 252 / 0
298 / Rotom-F, Rotom-S / 86 / +Spe / 252 / 0
295 / Articuno, Sawk, Pinsir / 85 / +Spe / 252 / 0
290 / Basculin / 98 / Neutral / 232 / 0
284 / Glalie, Gardevoir, Altaria, Drifblim / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 0
279 / Kangaskhan / 90 / Neutral / 252 / 0
272 / Shelgon / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 2
269 / Sawk, Pinsir / 85 / Neutral / 252 / 0
267 / Skuntank / 84 / Neutral / 252 / 0
266 / Floatzel / 115 / Neutral / 0 / 0
264 / Dragonair /70 / Neutral / 0 / 1
262 / Butterfree, Luxray, Ludicolo, Samurott / 70 / +Spe / 252 / 0
259 / Arbok, Shiftry, Braviary, Altaria, Drifblim / 80 / Neutral / 252 / 0
256 / Fraxure / 67 / +Spe / 252 / 0
251 / Seviper, Emboar / 65 / +Spe / 252 / 0
249 / Absol / 75 / Neutral / 252 / 0
246 / Electabuzz / 105 / Neutral / 0 / 0
246 / Drifblim / 80 / Neutral / 200 / 0
242 / Skuntank / 84 / Neutral / 152 / 0
239 / Ludicolo, Dragonair, Victreebel, Luxray, Samurott / 70 / Neutral / 252 / 0
313 / Combusken / 55/ Neutral / 252 / 1
310 / Octillery / 45 / +Spe / 252 / 1
306 / Pikachu, Zangoose, Vigoroth / 90 / +Spe /252 / 0
304 / Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 28 / 1
299 / Raichu / 100 / Neutral / 252 / 0
298 / Rotom-F, Rotom-S / 86 / +Spe / 252 / 0
295 / Articuno, Sawk, Pinsir / 85 / +Spe / 252 / 0
290 / Basculin / 98 / Neutral / 232 / 0
284 / Glalie, Gardevoir, Altaria, Drifblim / 80 / +Spe / 252 / 0
279 / Kangaskhan / 90 / Neutral / 252 / 0
272 / Shelgon / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 2
269 / Sawk, Pinsir / 85 / Neutral / 252 / 0
267 / Skuntank / 84 / Neutral / 252 / 0
266 / Floatzel / 115 / Neutral / 0 / 0
264 / Dragonair /70 / Neutral / 0 / 1
262 / Butterfree, Luxray, Ludicolo, Samurott / 70 / +Spe / 252 / 0
259 / Arbok, Shiftry, Braviary, Altaria, Drifblim / 80 / Neutral / 252 / 0
256 / Fraxure / 67 / +Spe / 252 / 0
251 / Seviper, Emboar / 65 / +Spe / 252 / 0
249 / Absol / 75 / Neutral / 252 / 0
246 / Electabuzz / 105 / Neutral / 0 / 0
246 / Drifblim / 80 / Neutral / 200 / 0
242 / Skuntank / 84 / Neutral / 152 / 0
239 / Ludicolo, Dragonair, Victreebel, Luxray, Samurott / 70 / Neutral / 252 / 0
236 / Miltank / 100 / Neutral / 0 / 0
233 / Solrock / 70 / Neutral / 228 / 0
232 / Torterra / 58 / +Spe / 252 / 0
229 / Seviper, Emboar / 65 / Neutral / 252 / 0
229 / Ursaring, Relicanth, Ampharos / 55 / +Spe / 252 / 0
227 / Kangaskhan / 90 / Neutral / 44 / 0
226 / Leafeon / 95 / Neutral / 0 / 0
224 / Seismitoad / 74 / Neutral / 160 / 0
223 / Huntail, Gorebyss / 52 / +Spe / 252 / 0
218 / Murkrow / 91 / Neutral / 0 / 0
218 / Beartic / 50 / +Spe / 252 / 0
216 / Golbat, Vigoroth / 90 / Neutral / 0 / 0
212 / Fraxure / 67 / Neutral / 168 / 0
212 / Misdreavus / 85 / Neutral / 24 / 0
212 / Absol / 75 / Neutral / 104 / 0
212 / Mawile / 50 / +Spe / 228 / 0
211 / Torterra / 58 / Neutral / 252 / 0
210 / Luxray / 70 / Neutral / 136 / 0
209 / Combusken, Ursaring, Relicanth, Exeggutor, Cacturne, Ampharos / 55 / Neutral / 252 / 0
208 / Articuno / 85 / Neutral / 8 / 0
206 / Volbeat / 85 / Neutral / 0 / 0
204 / Shelgon / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 1
203 / Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 28 / 0
199 / Beartic, Eelektross / 50 / Neutral / 252 / 0
233 / Solrock / 70 / Neutral / 228 / 0
232 / Torterra / 58 / +Spe / 252 / 0
229 / Seviper, Emboar / 65 / Neutral / 252 / 0
229 / Ursaring, Relicanth, Ampharos / 55 / +Spe / 252 / 0
227 / Kangaskhan / 90 / Neutral / 44 / 0
226 / Leafeon / 95 / Neutral / 0 / 0
224 / Seismitoad / 74 / Neutral / 160 / 0
223 / Huntail, Gorebyss / 52 / +Spe / 252 / 0
218 / Murkrow / 91 / Neutral / 0 / 0
218 / Beartic / 50 / +Spe / 252 / 0
216 / Golbat, Vigoroth / 90 / Neutral / 0 / 0
212 / Fraxure / 67 / Neutral / 168 / 0
212 / Misdreavus / 85 / Neutral / 24 / 0
212 / Absol / 75 / Neutral / 104 / 0
212 / Mawile / 50 / +Spe / 228 / 0
211 / Torterra / 58 / Neutral / 252 / 0
210 / Luxray / 70 / Neutral / 136 / 0
209 / Combusken, Ursaring, Relicanth, Exeggutor, Cacturne, Ampharos / 55 / Neutral / 252 / 0
208 / Articuno / 85 / Neutral / 8 / 0
206 / Volbeat / 85 / Neutral / 0 / 0
204 / Shelgon / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 1
203 / Altaria / 80 / Neutral / 28 / 0
199 / Beartic, Eelektross / 50 / Neutral / 252 / 0
196 / Meganium, Grumpig, Gardevoir / 80 / Neutral / 0 / 0
192 / Rampardos / 58 / Neutral / 160 / 0
189 / Marowak, Octillery, Armaldo / 45 / Neutral / 252 / 0
189 / Golem / 40 / Neutral / 252 / 0
186 / Garbodor / 75 / Neutral / 0 / 0
179 / Shedinja / 40 / Neutral / 252 / 0
177 / Exeggutor / 55 / Neutral / 124 / 0
176 / Tentacool, Luxray, Natu, Mantine, Dragonair, Ludicolo / 70 / Neutral / 0 / 0
170 / Hypno / 67 / Neutral / 0 / 0
167 / Exeggutor / Golurk 55 / Neutral / 84 / 0
166 / Alomomola, Flareon, Glaceon / 65 / Neutral / 0 / 0
163 / Carracosta / 32 / Neutral / 252 / 0
158 / Ampharos / 55 / Neutral / 48 / 0
157 / Zweilous / 58 / Neutral / 20 / 0
157 / Beartic / 50 / Neutral / 84 / 0
156 / Lapras, Weezing, Tangela / 60 / Neutral / 0 / 0
152 / Wartortle, Torterra / 58 / Neutral / 0 / 0
192 / Rampardos / 58 / Neutral / 160 / 0
189 / Marowak, Octillery, Armaldo / 45 / Neutral / 252 / 0
189 / Golem / 40 / Neutral / 252 / 0
186 / Garbodor / 75 / Neutral / 0 / 0
179 / Shedinja / 40 / Neutral / 252 / 0
177 / Exeggutor / 55 / Neutral / 124 / 0
176 / Tentacool, Luxray, Natu, Mantine, Dragonair, Ludicolo / 70 / Neutral / 0 / 0
170 / Hypno / 67 / Neutral / 0 / 0
167 / Exeggutor / Golurk 55 / Neutral / 84 / 0
166 / Alomomola, Flareon, Glaceon / 65 / Neutral / 0 / 0
163 / Carracosta / 32 / Neutral / 252 / 0
158 / Ampharos / 55 / Neutral / 48 / 0
157 / Zweilous / 58 / Neutral / 20 / 0
157 / Beartic / 50 / Neutral / 84 / 0
156 / Lapras, Weezing, Tangela / 60 / Neutral / 0 / 0
152 / Wartortle, Torterra / 58 / Neutral / 0 / 0
146 / Ampharos, Relicanth, Lampent, Cacturne / 55 / Neutral / 0 / 0
137 / Golem / 45 / Neutral / 44 / 0
137 / Vileplume / 50 / Neutral / 4 / 0
136 / Audino, Muk, Regice, Piloswine, Shelgon, Regirock, Lickilicky, Eelektross / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 0
132 / Scraggy / 48 / Neutral / 0 / 0
130 / Solrock / 70 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
130 / Whirlipede / 47 / Neutral / 0 / 0
126 / Marowak, Throh, Armaldo / 45 / Neutral / 0 / 0
122 / Cradily / 43 / Neutral / 0 / 0
121 / Banette / 65 / -Spe / 0 ,0IV / 0
116 / Lairon, Togetic, Probopass, Gurdurr, Camerupt / 40 / Neutral / 0 / 0
108 / Rampardos, Zweilous / 58 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
106 / Omanyte / 35 / Neutral / 0 / 0
103 / Lampent / 55 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
100 / Carracosta, Stunfisk / 32 / Neutral / 0 / 0
96 / Bastiodon, Amoonguss / 30 / Neutral / 0 / 0
95 / Duosion / 30 / Neutral / 0, 30IV / 0
94 / Audino 50 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
94 / Musharna / 29 / Neutral / 0 / 0
86 / Gigalith / 25 / Neutral / 0 / 0
85 / Marowak, Octillery / 45 / -Spe / 0,0 IV / 0
76 / Beheeyem / 40 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
76 / Torkoal / 20 / Neutral / 0 / 0
58 / Duosion / 30 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
137 / Golem / 45 / Neutral / 44 / 0
137 / Vileplume / 50 / Neutral / 4 / 0
136 / Audino, Muk, Regice, Piloswine, Shelgon, Regirock, Lickilicky, Eelektross / 50 / Neutral / 0 / 0
132 / Scraggy / 48 / Neutral / 0 / 0
130 / Solrock / 70 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
130 / Whirlipede / 47 / Neutral / 0 / 0
126 / Marowak, Throh, Armaldo / 45 / Neutral / 0 / 0
122 / Cradily / 43 / Neutral / 0 / 0
121 / Banette / 65 / -Spe / 0 ,0IV / 0
116 / Lairon, Togetic, Probopass, Gurdurr, Camerupt / 40 / Neutral / 0 / 0
108 / Rampardos, Zweilous / 58 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
106 / Omanyte / 35 / Neutral / 0 / 0
103 / Lampent / 55 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
100 / Carracosta, Stunfisk / 32 / Neutral / 0 / 0
96 / Bastiodon, Amoonguss / 30 / Neutral / 0 / 0
95 / Duosion / 30 / Neutral / 0, 30IV / 0
94 / Audino 50 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
94 / Musharna / 29 / Neutral / 0 / 0
86 / Gigalith / 25 / Neutral / 0 / 0
85 / Marowak, Octillery / 45 / -Spe / 0,0 IV / 0
76 / Beheeyem / 40 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
76 / Torkoal / 20 / Neutral / 0 / 0
58 / Duosion / 30 / -Spe / 0,0IV / 0
If there are any specific sets that the moderators do not think warrant being posted on the speed tiers, then let me know immediately so I don't end up doing the work for them.
After that (or before that, if Raseri feels like it), we'll start writing the introductory paragraphs for it, and then we should be done.
Hopefully this won't take too long. :)
EDIT: I've included the most likely sets for the three new drop downs and removed all of the Mesprit sets, it would still be appreciated if people could point out errors in the data so that I can correct them.
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