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Smogon Uber Ladder Details - Oct. 2009
Smogon Uber Ladder Teammates - Oct. 2009
Hello, as you most likely know, DougJustDoug faithfully provides us with stats for all of the metagames each month. In this thread, I would like to take a closer look at the Ubers statistics. Here they are. However, first, I’d like to say a huge “thank you Doug!”, because he’s been doing such an amazing job. These lists are truncated; if you want the full lists, please visit the sticky in Stark Mountain.
Note: I will most likely be doing these threads every few months, or if there is a particularly interesting thing being shown (unless these become very popular).
Overall Stats
Bold denotes the “OU of Ubers”.
Lead Stats
Discussion
First I’d like to take a look at a few surprising or interesting things from the overall stats list.
First of all, we can see that Kyogre still has its number 1 spot clenched between its teeth (baleens?). However, Groudon has been making a huge comeback
Groudon is only about 2.2 percent, or 1500 usages behind Kyogre. This could be, in large part, explained by the rise of Ho-oh, but I’ll get to that later. However, there is a clear increase in Groudon usage (up from #3, with 35.87%). Rock Polish, Paradancer, and Support Groudons have become increasingly popular. Could this mean the rise of stall? Many stall teams use the sun either because it aids their strategy (with Flamethrower or things like Jumpluff), or simple because it’s better than the rain (with the rain comes Pokémon like Kyogre, Palkia, and Kingdra, all of whom are disastrous for stall teams). This could possibly be the start of the fall of offense dominance in the Ubers tier (not that they’ll [stall vs offense usage] be completely equal, but most definitely getting more so).
Another thing that I’d like to point out is our friend from OU, Scizor.
Scizor has risen to huge popularity in the Ubers tier, probably in large part due to its great typing and stats, as well as Bullet Punch, which hurts a lot of Pokémon in Ubers, even after they have set up. Scizor is ranking even above “obviously Uber” Pokémon, like Wobbuffet, Deoxys-F, Giratina (Origin and Another), Lugia, Shaymin-S, and Mew. It is also ranked above all of the suspects (even the dreaded Garchomp!). How might this impact people’s views on it? It’s certainly a centralizing force in OU, and now in Ubers. This just shows how much a Pokémon can change when it gains simply one move (Scizor did gain Superpower in Platinum as well, but Bullet Punch is what really did it). Note, however, that its ability in Ubers does not make it Uber, nor does it make a suspect.
Ok, the really important piece of these stats, at least IMO (I know Jibaku agrees!), is this sucker
Ho-oh has taken a huge leap in usage. Back in September, it was number 22 with a mere 2171 uses, and in August it was only #24 with 1420 uses. Well, what could have possibly caused such a launch in this phoenix. Well, like Scizor, Ho-oh got its popularity through one move: Brave Bird. Now, Brave Bird has been a revolutionary addition, but I’m going to refrain from discussing it here, and instead I’m going to point you to Jibaku’s Ho-oh discussion. Ho-oh’s popularity has caused a huge amount of changes in the metagame, which can be observed in this month’s stats. First and foremost is the above Groudon stat. This has increased because Ho-oh truly needs the sun for its Attack boost. Another Pokémon who has increased usage because of this is Forretress
Forretress is sitting at the #9 position, again above many “obviously Uber” Pokémon, like its offensive counterpart, Scizor. This can be also explained by Ho-oh as well. Forretress is absolutely mandatory with Ho-oh because it removes the Stealth Rocks, which plague Ho-oh so much. This also proves that a Pokémon can rise above even a 4x times Stealth Rock weakness and do some serious damage in a tier. It also means that Ho-oh is not going to get suspect tested any time soon.
Other notable things:
Mew has taken another hit and has fallen another 2 places to number #21. People will be sorely underestimating this little fairy, who is truly a threat. This could be used to your advantage; a well-made Baton Pass team could rip through the metagame as of now!
Manaphy, who is being suspect tested now, is really an outcast among Ubers. It’s all the way down at #32, out of the OU of Ubers. It’s even being beaten by “gimmick Pokémon”, like Ninjask.
Finally we have the lead stats. Groudon and Deoxys-E are by far the most dominate leads now, with Deoxys-E having a comfortable lead even over Groudon. This shows how much the metagame has centralized itself around the use of entry hazards. Back even 6 or so months ago, Darkrai was the most common lead, because it could use Dark Void or do a fair chunk of damage right off the bat. This is one of the greatest examples of the evolution of the metagame.
Ok, I’m finally done! Please use this for a springboard into discussing the trends and developments in the metagame that are demonstrated by this past October’s stats. How has the metagame evolved? Where will it go from here? How will certain Pokémon effect playing styles and which Pokémon will become threats to prepare for? Will offense still remain the dominant form of play, or could stall creep up on it? These are just a few of the ideas for discussion here. Thanks, and happy discussing!
Smogon Uber Ladder Teammates - Oct. 2009
Hello, as you most likely know, DougJustDoug faithfully provides us with stats for all of the metagames each month. In this thread, I would like to take a closer look at the Ubers statistics. Here they are. However, first, I’d like to say a huge “thank you Doug!”, because he’s been doing such an amazing job. These lists are truncated; if you want the full lists, please visit the sticky in Stark Mountain.
Note: I will most likely be doing these threads every few months, or if there is a particularly interesting thing being shown (unless these become very popular).
Overall Stats
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October 2009 Uber Usage
Battles: 12806
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| Rank | Pokémon | Uses | Percent |
[B]| 1 | Kyogre | 11990 | 46.81 | [/B]
[B]| 2 | Groudon | 10410 | 40.65 | [/B]
[B]| 3 | Palkia | 9598 | 37.47 |[/B]
[B]| 4 | Mewtwo | 8267 | 32.28 |[/B]
[B]| 5 | Darkrai | 7480 | 29.21 |[/B]
[B]| 6 | Dialga | 7433 | 29.02 |[/B]
[B]| 7 | Rayquaza | 7382 | 28.82 |[/B]
[B]| 8 | Scizor | 6644 | 25.94 | [/B]
[B]| 9 | Forretress | 6373 | 24.88 |[/B]
[B]| 10 | Wobbuffet | 6199 | 24.20 | [/B]
[B]| 11 | Deoxys-e | 5251 | 20.50 | [/B]
[B]| 12 | Giratina-o | 4414 | 17.23 | [/B]
[B]| 13 | Ho-oh | 4226 | 16.50 | [/B]
[B]| 14 | Blissey | 4187 | 16.35 | [/B]
[B]| 15 | Latios | 4132 | 16.13 | [/B]
[B]| 16 | Garchomp | 3412 | 13.32 | [/B]
[B]| 17 | Latias | 3106 | 12.13 | [/B]
[B]| 18 | Deoxys-f | 2964 | 11.57 | [/B]
[B]| 19 | Lugia | 2867 | 11.19 | [/B]
[B]| 20 | Shaymin-s | 2746 | 10.72 | [/B]
[B]| 21 | Mew | 2291 | 8.95 | [/B]
[B]| 22 | Giratina | 2247 | 8.77 | [/B]
[B]| 23 | Tyranitar | 1574 | 6.15 | [/B]
[B]| 24 | Lucario | 1462 | 5.71 | [/B]
[B]| 25 | Jirachi | 1409 | 5.50 | [/B]
[B]| 26 | Kingdra | 927 | 3.62 | [/B]
[B]| 27 | Metagross | 902 | 3.52 |[/B]
| 28 | Shedinja | 861 | 3.36 |
| 29 | Ninjask | 700 | 2.73 |
| 30 | Weavile | 670 | 2.62 |
| 31 | Salamence | 631 | 2.46 |
| 32 | Manaphy | 614 | 2.40 |
Lead Stats
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October 2009 Uber Lead Usage
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| 1 | Deoxys-e | 4989 | 19.48 |
| 2 | Groudon | 3286 | 12.83 |
| 3 | Darkrai | 1900 | 7.42 |
| 4 | Deoxys-f | 1783 | 6.96 |
| 5 | Kyogre | 1641 | 6.41 |
| 6 | Dialga | 1362 | 5.32 |
| 7 | Mew | 1062 | 4.15 |
| 8 | Shaymin-s | 935 | 3.65 |
| 9 | Mewtwo | 867 | 3.39 |
| 10 | Forretress | 837 | 3.27 |
First I’d like to take a look at a few surprising or interesting things from the overall stats list.
First of all, we can see that Kyogre still has its number 1 spot clenched between its teeth (baleens?). However, Groudon has been making a huge comeback
Code:
| 2 | Groudon | 10410 | 40.65 |
Another thing that I’d like to point out is our friend from OU, Scizor.
Code:
| 8 | Scizor | 6644 | 25.94 |
Ok, the really important piece of these stats, at least IMO (I know Jibaku agrees!), is this sucker
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| 13 | Ho-oh | 4226 | 16.50 |
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| 9 | Forretress | 6373 | 24.88 |
Other notable things:
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| 21 | Mew | 2291 | 8.95 |
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| 32 | Manaphy | 614 | 2.40 |
Finally we have the lead stats. Groudon and Deoxys-E are by far the most dominate leads now, with Deoxys-E having a comfortable lead even over Groudon. This shows how much the metagame has centralized itself around the use of entry hazards. Back even 6 or so months ago, Darkrai was the most common lead, because it could use Dark Void or do a fair chunk of damage right off the bat. This is one of the greatest examples of the evolution of the metagame.
Ok, I’m finally done! Please use this for a springboard into discussing the trends and developments in the metagame that are demonstrated by this past October’s stats. How has the metagame evolved? Where will it go from here? How will certain Pokémon effect playing styles and which Pokémon will become threats to prepare for? Will offense still remain the dominant form of play, or could stall creep up on it? These are just a few of the ideas for discussion here. Thanks, and happy discussing!