Official Cross Country/ Distance Running Thread

#76
So I was bored and summer training for XC season is coming up, so I decided to check out the results from last year's state meet and stuff

Here are the results http://lancertiming.com/results/fall15/nh1b.htm

I noticed that the bigger schools in D1 generally do better than smaller schools but there are a few anomalies and I was wondering if there was this sort of pattern in your states

For reference, top 8 in D1 is what we sort of classify as "good" because those teams make it to the Meet Of Champions against the D2 and D3 teams

1 Pinkerton 35 2 3 8 10 12 14 20 Total Time: 1:20:49.40 Average: 16:09.88 -3100 Students, broken as fuck, will never not win, largest school in state, etc etc etc also their JV team destroys at JV states every year like it would've come in the top 5 if they ran it at the championship level
2 Londonderry 98 4 11 17 23 43 57 62 Total Time: 1:23:27.60 Average: 16:41.52 -1600 Students, Pinkerton's rival, solid team that always does well
3 Nashua South 153 13 22 26 33 59 61 82 Total Time: 1:25:32.90 Average: 17:06.58 -1800 Students, basically same as above
4 Nashua North 156 24 30 32 34 36 55 Total Time: 1:25:56.10 Average: 17:11.22 -1700 Students, rival of South, would have beaten them but their best runner did not finish which is kinda unfortunate
5 Concord 168 6 15 29 54 64 76 93 Total Time: 1:25:32.70 Average: 17:06.54 -1700 Students, other than the top 2 or 3 runners they don't really have anything special but their top 3 carry the rest. Only senior was their first runner
6 Alvirne 173 7 18 38 42 68 72 83 Total Time: 1:25:52.80 Average: 17:10.56 -1400 Students, first and last runners are seniors, are more close together than Concord and are only losing their 1st and 7th runner and their 2nd runner has won the 800m in spring track both of the last 2 years iirc
7 Keene 179 16 25 28 39 71 78 87 Total Time: 1:26:15.10 Average: 17:15.02 -1700 Students, rather consistent in their times, not losing a single senior, also live in sort of a mountainous region which I think helps them especially on this course (all the way up this hill then all the way down)
8 Timberlane 191 1 35 37 51 67 89 119 Total Time: 1:26:20.10 Average: 17:16.02 -1300 Students, really carried by their top runner and otherwise don't make MOCs, especially since their 2nd and 4th runners are also seniors
9 Exeter 214 5 48 50 53 58 80 96 Total Time: 1:26:59.60 Average: 17:23.92 -1700 Students, again, carried by one runner and are losing their entire top 4 next year which sucks for them. Also I'm pretty sure blue hawks aren't real
10 Bishop Guertin 215 21 27 40 52 75 102 114 Total Time: 1:27:32.30 Average: 17:30.46 -800 Students, actually a D2 school but petition up. This would otherwise be an anomaly but they're a private school and I think they recruit for a lot of sports so they end up with some good athletes that run XC. Only losing their 2nd and 6th runners
11 Merrimack 248 19 31 44 70 84 88 99 Total Time: 1:28:11.80 Average: 17:38.36 -1300 Students, losing 1st 3rd and 6th runners
12 Manchester Central 257 9 46 56 69 77 97 123 Total Time: 1:28:15.50 Average: 17:39.10 -1900 Students, losing runners 1 2 and 4. I'm pretty sure football is pretty big there though and Manchester in my opinion is the place in NH where you're most likely to get shot but that's just my opinion
13 Dover 308 45 60 63 66 74 86 107 Total Time: 1:29:47.70 Average: 17:57.54 -1300 Students, losing 2 5 and 6, have actually been beaten by the following team on occasion
14 Winnacunnet 386 49 73 81 91 92 100 111 Total Time: 1:31:49.80 Average: 18:21.96 -110 Students, actually D2 and petition up, has freshmen with a lot of potential and there are some rumors of this team getting some really strong freshmen this coming year so this team actually has a good amount of potential in the next 2 or 3 years if their captains can keep them in line and working hard. Also, their 7th runner was really sick the day of the meet and otherwise he could have run a lot better and would probably be their 1st or 2nd runner if we ran this race again right now. Losing their runners 1 and 2 but it's not like they were star runners in the way #1 for Timberlane was, though their #1 used to destroy in middle school and was always close with Exeter's #1
15 Bedford 413 47 79 94 95 98 101 104 Total Time: 1:32:38.30 Average: 18:31.66 -1400 Students, I actually don't know much about their boys team but they're a lot stronger in the track seasons. Also they have really nice facilities. Only losing runner 4
16 Spaulding 426 41 65 103 108 109 117 122 Total Time: 1:33:46.40 Average: 18:45.28 -1400 Students, same as above. They seem to really do a lot better in team sports because their sprinters / jumpers / throwers aren't really anything special either
17 Manchester Memorial 524 90 105 106 110 113 121 125 Total Time: 1:36:39.40 Average: 19:19.88 -1700 Students, same as Central really, losing 1 and 3
18 Salem 546 85 112 115 116 118 120 124 Total Time: 1:38:38.40 Average: 19:43.68 -1400, I literally know nothing about this school I always kinda forget they exist


http://lancertiming.com/results/fall15/nh2b.htm

I don't know as much about these schools but the 1 and 2 teams are always the top 2 and same with their girls teams (even at the MOCs level). Though they are a lot smaller than a lot of other schools, even within their division, they both have something in common: they don't have football teams. Coe-Brown also does not have a girls field hockey team, which I also think is interesting. I was wondering if any schools around y'all also showed this correlation.

Anyway I was bored so I did this kbye :)

Edit: just fyi i didnt run in this race i was #8 lol
 
#77
oh wow forgot this thread existed

yeah there are always some anomalies with my state (CA), as even a few D5 schools can be monstrous. Generally the D1s and D2s are better though. My school has ~2200 kids and is top-tier D2, but we can't usually beat the best D3 in the state, which is in our league meets. That said, both of our teams have aspirations of making NXN this year so idk.

CA Boys D1, 5K

1 Phillip Rocha 12 Arcadia High School (SS)14:42.90
2Eduardo Herrera 12 Madera South (CS)14:48.802
3Spencer Dodds 12 Great Oak High School (SS)15:00.003
4Jake Ogden 12 Dana Hills High School (SS)15:03.904
5Cole Spencer 12 Great Oak High School (SS)15:04.505
6Garrett Reynolds 12 Ventura High School (SS)15:05.006
7Isaac Cortes 12Great Oak High School (SS)15:05.807
8Michael Vernau11Davis Senior High School (SJ)15:07.808
9Paul Luevano12Venice Senior High School (LA)15:09.20--
10Jack Landgraf10Dana Hills High School (SS)15:12.609
11Miguel Villar11Madera South (CS)15:15.6010
12Solomon Fountain11Great Oak High School (SS)15:20.0011
13Mason Coppi12Dana Hills High School (SS)15:24.1012
14Luis Grijalva11Armijo High (SJ)15:24.40--
15Zachary Katzman12Skyline High School (OK)15:25.00--
16Sean Kurdy12Jesuit (SJ)15:27.4013
17Ben Holland11Jesuit (SJ)15:28.1014
18Ethan Comeaux11Redondo Union High School (SS)15:33.80--
19Colin Stein12Dana Hills High School (SS)15:34.6015
20Hector Garcia12Marshall (John) Senior High (LA)15:35.80--
21Cisco Cuellar12California High (SS)15:37.9016
22Nelson Quintana12Great Oak High School (SS)15:38.3017
23Colin Fitzgerald10Crescenta Valley (SS)15:39.10--
24Kellen Browning12Davis Senior High School (SJ)15:39.9018
25Angel Aguirre11California High (SS)15:40.6019
26Michael Biedebach12El Toro High School (SS)15:40.70--
27Timothy Chrisman12Monte Vista High (NC)15:41.2020
28Nestor Rodriguez12Ventura High School (SS)15:41.7021
29Nick Borowsky12Davis Senior High School (SJ)15:42.9022
30Nick Randazzo11Ventura High School (SS)15:42.9023
31Jagdeep Chahal10Burroughs Burbank (SS)15:44.0024
32Brandon Hough11Dana Hills High School (SS)15:45.8025
33Tony Robinson12Great Oak High School (SS)15:46.1026
34Brendan Jones11Jesuit (SJ)15:46.6027
35Charlie Pope12Torrey Pines High School (SD)15:46.8028
36Darius Riley10Rancho Cucamonga (SS)15:47.1029
37Michael Lackner12Jesuit (SJ)15:49.2030
38Meikael Beaudoin-rousseau10Bellarmine College Prep (CC)15:50.2031
39Michael Ochoa11Madera South (CS)15:50.5032
40Thomas Wilfert11Dana Hills High School (SS)15:50.7033
41Justin Villagran12Burroughs Burbank (SS)15:51.1034
42Daniel Pride11Santa Rosa High (NC)15:52.10--
43Matthew Richardson11Bellarmine College Prep (CC)15:53.0035
44Mikolaj Krajewski11Lowell High (SF)15:53.6036
45Marcelo Ramirez12Eagle Rock Junior-Senior High (LA)15:54.30--
46Tyler Janes12King (Martin Luther Jr.) (SS)15:56.30--
47Raymond Lopez12Kennedy (John F.) High School (LA)15:56.50--
48John Turner11Dana Hills High School (SS)15:56.7037
49Patrick Cummings12Jesuit (SJ)15:57.4038
50Dylan Doblar11Bellarmine College Prep (CC)15:58.6039
51Tristan Miller11Monte Vista High (NC)15:59.4040
52Ben Hamer10Palisades Charter High (LA)16:00.2041
53Brandon Shields12Great Oak High School (SS)16:00.6042
54Joey Del-valle Rutherford11Rancho Cucamonga (SS)16:01.1043
55Thomas Busse12Bellarmine College Prep (CC)16:01.1044
56Elijah Changco12San Benito (CC)16:03.50--
57Victor Ochoa9Madera South (CS)16:04.3045
58Alex Scales10Bellarmine College Prep (CC)16:04.5046
59Julian Romero12California High (SS)16:04.8047
60Daniel Graves12Homestead High School (CC)16:05.2048
61Joseph Vasquez11Arcadia High School (SS)16:05.3049
62Jordan Olson11Ventura High School (SS)16:07.3050
63Kent Slaney11Palo Alto High School (CC)16:08.0051
64Ariel Monsalud12James Logan High (NC)16:08.10--
65Nicholas Hernandez11Madera South (CS)16:11.6052
66Timothy Wells11Burroughs Burbank (SS)16:12.1053
67Neil Braganza11Dougherty Valley High (NC)16:12.60--
68Nicholas Vomund11Monte Vista High (NC)16:12.9054
69Justin Hazell10El Camino Real Senior High (LA)16:13.10--
70Daniel Maneloveg11Monte Vista High (NC)16:13.2055
71Jorge Suarez11Santa Ana High (SS)16:13.50--
72Noel Echerverria12California High (SS)16:13.6056
73Anthony Segura10Arcadia High School (SS)16:14.1057
74Brent Smith9Palisades Charter High (LA)16:15.5058
75Williams Robert11Woodcreek High School (SJ)16:16.10--
76Jorge Estrella10Andrew P. Hill High School (CC)16:16.20--
77Jakob Pollack11Palisades Charter High (LA)16:17.2059
78Hayden Hansen10Buchanan High School (CS)16:17.6060
79Stewart Fernandez11Buchanan High School (CS)16:18.0061
80Isaiah Labra10Bonita Vista Senior High (SD)16:18.20--
81Noah Johnson12El Camino HS (SD)16:18.40--
82Antonio Perezchica11McFarland High School (CS)16:18.5062
83Luis Aragon12Lowell High (SF)16:18.9063
84Daniel Dolen12Rancho Cucamonga (SS)16:19.7064
85Derek Shiu12Bellarmine College Prep (CC)16:20.6065
86Marcus Mota9Stockdale High School (CS)16:20.60--
87Jack Frinodig12Torrey Pines High School (SD)16:20.7066
88Stefan Bradley12San Ramon Valley High (NC)16:20.80--
89Jesus Cortes12Santee EC (LA)16:21.1067
90Christopher Reed12Homestead High School (CC)16:21.5068
91Orlando Cardenas12Modesto High (SJ)16:21.60--
92Austin Che12Arcadia High School (SS)16:22.1069
93Chris Kolar12Buchanan High School (CS)16:22.3070
94Jose Rodriguez9McFarland High School (CS)16:22.8071
95Sam Craig10Palo Alto High School (CC)16:23.1072
96Melecio Gonzalez10McFarland High School (CS)16:23.6073
97Naveen Pai11Palo Alto High School (CC)16:24.5074
98Chris Weiland11Rancho Cucamonga (SS)16:25.7075
99Ryan Ma9Homestead High School (CC)16:25.9076
100Jonathan Ayson11California High (SS)16:27.1077
101Chris Lee12Arcadia High School (SS)16:27.3078
102Daniel Chavez12Rancho Cucamonga (SS)16:27.7079
103Mark Alania12Modesto High (SJ)16:28.00--
104Brent Mogensen12Monta Vista High (CC)16:28.30--
105Luca Mazzanti11Santa Rosa High (NC)16:28.30--
106Carlos Reyes Cortez11Santee EC (LA)16:29.1080
107Alexander Doyle11Rancho Buena Vista High (SD)16:30.10--
108Jacob Mawson12Cosumnes Oaks (SJ)16:30.70--
109Jacob Burch12Rancho Cucamonga (SS)16:31.2081
110Donald Welsh12Bellarmine College Prep (CC)16:31.4082
111Nick Kleiber11Oakland Technical Senior High (OK)16:32.1083
112Joe Blakewell12Davis Senior High School (SJ)16:32.6084
113Chapin Levin Arbuthnot12Arcadia High School (SS)16:32.9085
114Zahid Anjum12Wilcox (Adrian) High (CC)16:33.30--
115Robert Bartsch10Torrey Pines High School (SD)16:34.1086
116Adrian Alvarez10Madera South (CS)16:34.7087
117Jarod Dias12Vista High (SD)16:35.4088
118Jacob Calderon10Burroughs Burbank (SS)16:35.5089
119Salvador Rodriguez12Santee EC (LA)16:35.5090
120Andrew Barrondo12Burroughs Burbank (SS)16:35.8091
121Stefen Rasmusson10Mira Mesa Senior High (SD)16:36.00--
122Chris Hoxsie10Burroughs Burbank (SS)16:36.7092
123Matthew Sickman12Jesuit (SJ)16:36.7093
124Carlos Aviles-sullivan12Sweetwater High (SD)16:36.90--
125Cody Beeson10Ventura High School (SS)16:37.0094
126Tyler Yep12Evergreen Valley (CC)16:37.90--
127Bobby Hodgson12Liberty High (NC)16:38.2095
128Ravi Sharma12Arcadia High School (SS)16:38.6096
129Max Sawyer11Homestead High School (CC)16:38.9097
130Darren Edmonds12Torrey Pines High School (SD)16:39.5098
131Jacob Hernandez11Ventura High School (SS)16:40.8099
132Elliott Portillo11Liberty High (NC)16:42.30100
133Eziquiel Gurule10California High (SS)16:42.40101
134Willie Hall12Davis Senior High School (SJ)16:43.30102
135Reed Foster10Palo Alto High School (CC)16:43.50103
136Jordan Rahe10Jesuit (SJ)16:47.50104
137Joseph Torres11California High (SS)16:47.60105
138Ilias Arroyo12Vista High (SD)16:47.60106
139Ben Smiley11Monte Vista High (NC)16:47.70107
140Mario Trasvina10Vista High (SD)16:49.50108
141Spencer Hauxhurst10Clovis North (CS)16:51.50--
142Jackson Laird11Davis Senior High School (SJ)16:52.60109
143Christian Gonzalez11Vista High (SD)16:52.80110
144Spencer Morgenfeld11Palo Alto High School (CC)16:54.70111
145Adithya Somasundaram12Homestead High School (CC)16:55.90112
146Matthew Bennett11Homestead High School (CC)16:58.00113
147Diose Ramirez12Madera South (CS)16:58.80114
148Travis Hellenkamp10Torrey Pines High School (SD)17:00.30115
149Cj Sloan11Homestead High School (CC)17:02.60116
150Max Tiao10Lowell High (SF)17:05.10117
151Matthew Johnson10Monte Vista High (NC)17:05.10118
152Alexander Parker10Lowell High (SF)17:06.30119
153Noah Battaglia9Lowell High (SF)17:06.90120
154Oscar Ulloa11Santee EC (LA)17:06.90121
155Brendan Lau11Monte Vista High (NC)17:08.30122
156Ben Beaudry11Palo Alto High School (CC)17:10.50123
157Joe Garcia12Vista High (SD)17:12.00124
158Benito Reyes11Santee EC (LA)17:13.00125
159Joseph Harmon11Oakland Technical Senior High (OK)17:13.60126
160Marvin Luong12Lowell High (SF)17:14.50127
161Jake Greanias10Palisades Charter High (LA)17:15.60128
162Jack Hockley11Palisades Charter High (LA)17:18.50129
163Logan Fraser11Buchanan High School (CS)17:19.70130
164Andrew Hoxsie10Burroughs Burbank (SS)17:22.00131
165Micah Delgado9Liberty High (NC)17:23.90132
166Samuel Desre12Palo Alto High School (CC)17:24.00133
167Marcos Mulato11McFarland High School (CS)17:24.90134
168Jordan Morris11Clovis High School (CS)17:26.20--
169William Fuchs11Lowell High (SF)17:28.00135
170Michael Mcmahon11Torrey Pines High School (SD)17:28.20136
171Miles Beal10Buchanan High School (CS)17:28.80137
172Brendan Deas12Davis Senior High School (SJ)17:31.10138
173Seth Diaz10McFarland High School (CS)17:32.40139
174Ulloa Usiel12Santee EC (LA)17:34.00140
175Eric Gutierrez10Santee EC (LA)17:34.50141
176Miguel Flores12McFarland High School (CS)17:34.70142
177Josiah Diaz10McFarland High School (CS)17:34.90143
178Marquise Holcomb12Rancho Cucamonga (SS)17:37.30144
179Hunter Parker11Palisades Charter High (LA)17:42.90145
180Chase Oden12Liberty High (NC)17:46.30146
181Preston Ma12Washington (George) High (SF)17:50.20--
182Jesse Lopez12Vista High (SD)17:55.00147
183Hunter Bentancourt12Liberty High (NC)17:59.70148
184Jonathon Flores11Palisades Charter High (LA)18:02.90149
185Julian Carrera12Liberty High (NC)18:04.30150
186Saul Maciel1Skyline High School (OK)18:07.80--
187Benjamin Smith10Liberty High (NC)18:15.10151
188Avshalom Berrol10Skyline High School (OK)18:15.30--
189Ethan Yeh11Torrey Pines High School (SD)18:15.40152
190Jack Matull11Washington (George) High (SF)18:22.20--
191Matthew Murphy12Oakland Technical Senior High (OK)18:22.80153
192Matthew Battaion10Buchanan High School (CS)18:23.30154
193Ivan Ramirez11Vista High (SD)18:36.10155
194Jonah Lounds10Oakland Technical Senior High (OK)18:36.50156
195Rudy Chavira-reyes10Impact Academy (OK)18:42.10--
196Justin Nichols11Oakland Technical Senior High (OK)19:09.20157
197Nathan Lee9Oakland Technical Senior High (OK)21:14.60158


Scores

1Great Oak High School (SS)433+5+7+11+17 (26+42)0:38 1-5 Split | 15:13 Avg
2Dana Hills High School (SS)654+9+12+15+25 (33+37)0:41 1-5 Split | 15:24 Avg
3Jesuit (SJ)12213+14+27+30+38 (93+104)0:30 1-5 Split | 15:41 Avg
4Madera South (CS)1412+10+32+45+52 (87+114)1:22 1-5 Split | 15:38 Avg
5Ventura High School (SS)1946+21+23+50+94 (99)1:32 1-5 Split | 15:50 Avg
6Bellarmine College Prep (CC)19531+35+39+44+46 (65+82)0:14 1-5 Split | 15:57 Avg
7California High (SS)21516+19+47+56+77 (101+105)0:49 1-5 Split | 16:00 Avg
8Davis Senior High School (SJ)2348+18+22+84+102 (109+138)1:35 1-5 Split | 15:57 Avg
9Arcadia High School (SS)2541+49+57+69+78 (85+96)1:44 1-5 Split | 15:58 Avg
10Monte Vista High (NC)27620+40+54+55+107 (118+122)1:06 1-5 Split | 16:10 Avg
11Rancho Cucamonga (SS)29029+43+64+75+79 (81+144)0:40 1-5 Split | 16:12 Avg
12Burroughs Burbank (SS)29124+34+53+89+91 (92+131)0:51 1-5 Split | 16:11 Avg
13Torrey Pines High School (SD)39328+66+86+98+115 (136+152)1:13 1-5 Split | 16:28 Avg
14Homestead High School (CC)40148+68+76+97+112 (113+116)0:50 1-5 Split | 16:29 Avg
15Palo Alto High School (CC)41151+72+74+103+111 (123+133)0:46 1-5 Split | 16:30 Avg
16Palisades Charter High (LA)41541+58+59+128+129 (145+149)1:18 1-5 Split | 16:37 Avg
17Lowell High (SF)45536+63+117+119+120 (127+135)1:13 1-5 Split | 16:42 Avg
18Buchanan High School (CS)45860+61+70+130+137 (154)1:11 1-5 Split | 16:45 Avg
19McFarland High School (CS)47962+71+73+134+139 (142+143)1:13 1-5 Split | 16:48 Avg
20Santee EC (LA)48367+80+90+121+125 (140+141)0:51 1-5 Split | 16:45 Avg
21Vista High (SD)53688+106+108+110+124 (147+155)0:36 1-5 Split | 16:51 Avg
22Liberty High (NC)62195+100+132+146+148 (150+151)1:21 1-5 Split | 17:18 Avg
23Oakland Technical Senior High (OK)67583+126+153+156+157 (158)2:37 1-5 Split | 17:58 Avg
 
#79
Bumping this thread because I liked it :(

Not this past Friday but the one before we had a scrimmage meet against a nearby school which we absolutely crushed (had like 1st place then 3rd 4th etc up to like 10th) which was won by one of our freshmen with a time of 19:19. I unfortunately had a bad race there like I do every year and only ran a 20:42 (but everyone runs a bad time because its like one week into preseason and its a hilly course and all of that) but if past years are indicative of what I might do this year I'll cut off 2.5 minutes by the end of the season lol. This season we got 3 really strong freshmen from the middle schools which should help us out at the divisional meet this year, so we're hoping we can crack the top 10 which would be big for us with such a small team and losing our top 2 runners from last year (in which we were 14th). My personal goals for this year are to run below 17:55 for a 5k, which I think I can do because my freshman year PR was 21:14 and last year's was 18:27 and to be on my team's top 7 so I can run at our divisional meet and the Meet of Champions (which is the same course where I've run my aforementioned PRs at the JV state meet).

Also, I'm really excited for this coming Tuesday, because we're running a race at a local farm, and it will be the first home cross country meet my school has hosted in over 20 years. Our goal is obviously to win, but one of the teams barely beat us out last year, so we're hoping to sneak one in and pull one over on them (the other team is basically a pushover unless they somehow picked up 5 freshmen who can run sub 18 this early in the season).

Overall, we're going to be a stronger team this year and we're hoping to get a lot of PRs

EDIT: We should maintain a spreadsheet with people's PRs and stuff I feel like that'd be interesting
 
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#80
We had our first race yesterday, a medium sized invitational. It's one of the hilliest courses around and it was super hot because my group had the first race. The 2nd mile is composed of one giant hill called the "eliminator." (It sounds so sinister) The course itself is only 2 miles, but it's just the beginning of the season.
 
#81
We had our first home meet in 20 years yesterday (and season opener) which we unfortunately lost but we are still probably the best team that was there

The final score was 34 43 47 with us scoring 37 but the other teams have no depth which will hurt them in larger meets like divisionals

Our average top 5 time was the best out of the three, our top 5 gap was 1:02, the others being like 1:45 and 1:53, but the gap between our first and 11th runner was the gap between the winning teams first and fifth give or take a few seconds

Unfortunately what really hurt us is that the top team took the top 3 spots and the other team took 4 and 5. Luckily for us, you need 5 people to score, so we may not get all the low scoring people, but our pack is so close (and still decently fast for like 7 of our top 9 being freshman and sophomores [the other two are juniors]) that we are capable of beating them in the larger meets where more runners can get between their front pack and their 4th and 5th

In summary, we may have lost this battle (barely), but the warrior tribe is out for blood and will definitely win the war
 
#82
On Saturday night I ran in my first Varsity race!

I ended up PRing with a 16:12 (3 miles) and was 6th man. The race video is here:



taken by a parent from some other team. At ~3:15 there is a Harambe chant going, but you can hardly hear it. At ~3:30, you see my friend fall near the start, which went poorly since it was really crowded and bottlenecked fast. You can see me jumping over him. He still managed to run about 16:20. At ~8:30 I cross the finish line at 94th place. I was happy with my time, although the race was very crowded (~240 guys) and I got boxed in a lot. I'm hoping to break 16 soon at the Woodbridge Invitational.

My team ran very high mileage (~60 miles) and had little speed work the week before the race, so as a group we didn't do anything incredible, and several guys had pretty bad races. However, we usually get a lot of momentum going into CIF since we choose to hold back on the heavy speed work and such until later in the season. Because of this, I'm optimistic about what we can accomplish. I expect most of our pack to be sub-15:30 with a few close to or under 15:00. I'm aiming for around 15:30 eventually.

I'm looking forward to this season; it seems like everyone in this thread is off to a great start :)

Edit cuzzie I'm a senior now
 
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#83
Damn, your team is super good! (Both you and Ununhexium) Our team is in Cali and is D1 but we barely make even 1 person, not even a whole team for state. Also, that's a crazy good time! What grade are you in JTD783? Our team has just filled up in the past years, but we haven't been able to even consider the team event, even in our league. We're now up to like 60 people lol, but it was like 20 my freshman year. Last year, our best guy ran like 16:10 at the end of the season.

EDIT: Ah, I didn't see that it was a flat course at night, but still, that's crazy impressive
 
#84
So last Tuesday we had a meet at a god awful course that was only 2.8 miles but everyone ran awful times and we came in second and I don't wanna talk about it

Just today we had a larger invitational. Course was very tough but it was probably the most fun I've ever had running a race. I ran for my teams JV and I came in second in the race. I started knowing I could be top 10 and in the first 1/3 mile I could tell I would be top 5 because I was in 6th with two other kids from my team ahead of me who I beat every race (I don't start too fast haha). At about 3/4 of a mile I'm ahead of them thinking "top 3 that's my goal" but by the one mile it was myself and this one other kid from another school. From the beginning of the race, nobody passed me the entire time, and from the first mile forward it was me and this one other kid literally running within 2 meters of eachother the entire time. At the end he just had the stronger kick, but it was overall a super fun race. He ended up beating me by about 2 seconds because I can't sprint for shit haha. Either way, it was super fun. I ran a 19:11 (it's early in the season and a tough course gimme a break) which is 44 seconds off my PR of 18:27. So the order was the kid who beat me, myself, a freshman from my school, and 4 kids from a different school. Fortunately, we were able to displace their 5th guy so we won 36-51-56 (I think) and then a bunch more teams.

Our varsity team (2 freshmen 4 sophomores 1 junior) had a very difficult day, with our best runner (a freshman) getting injured before the race and one of our 2-4 guys got injured on the course which hurt us.

Overall do our boys team, I ran the second best time (I'm good at hills) so I'm hoping by the end of the season I can sneak into the top 7 because I'm a late season runner
 
#85
Update time :)

I ran at the Woodbridge Invitational and broke 16! The usual top 7 ran in the sweeps race, so I ran in the normal varsity race. I got first on squad with 15:51. The next week I got sick, but felt a little better in time for the Dana Hills Invitational on the 24th, and ran slightly slower at 15:52. There were 14 spots available so I ran Varsity again. These were both very flat and fast courses by the way. On Thursday I had another race, this time for league. My team rarely races this much at once but w/e. I was slated to run JV... until 3 of our top 7 guys got sick. Then I got put in Varsity again, which was cool. This course was moderately hilly, and it was about 90 degrees, so the times weren't insanely fast. I was 6th man on my team, and (iirc) 19th in league, with 16:21 (all courses were 3 miles).

I'm very happy with how my season's been going and am glad to see that you all are doing well too.
 
#86
I guess I'll just shoulder the thread again

Over the past few weeks my team and I have had a few more races, but today we went to the Northeast Brown University high school invite in Goddard Park in Rhode Island. If you haven't been there, it's a super flat course and everyone runs really fast races and PRs there, so it's a ton of fun in the respect that everyone runs well and is in a good mood, there was great weather, and really nothing to complain about. Again, my team is like all freshmen and sophomores so we have a ton of room for improvement in the near future. I personally ran a 17:34 which was a big PR for me (previously 18:15 and before that it was 18:27) so I was really happy about that. I was our 6th runner after 3 sophomores and 2 freshmen, and our 7th was also a freshman which is really awesome. Our freshman superstar broke 17 today and PRed by like 50 seconds which was awesome and huge for him. Our top 5 average was 17:14 if I remember correctly and we came in 10th in the large school race so that was great for us.

Our JV state meet is next Friday and our divisional varsity meet is in 2 weeks so I might update y'all then
 
#87
It's cool that Rhode Island has a state meet for JV; California only does Varsity, which kinda sucks since I probably won't get to race after league ends. Nice job on the PR!
 
#89
I'll be at Mt. Sac on Saturday as well. By some miracle I got thrown into the sweeps race, so look for a short blonde kid way way wayyyy in the back if you watch it. My school is D2 (at least in CIF), so my teammates should be in that race. Good luck :)
 
#90
Niice! Sweepstakes! We have nobody who is that fast, so we all showed up at 1 for the D2 race :( Our best guy, a sophomore ran 16:34 in the varsity race, placing 6th though, so that was nice. Another girl from our team medaled (though she was our fastest girl and ran in the Freshman race because our coach just put all the seniors/juniors into the Varsity race.) At least our team didn't get last in any of our races :) Simi Valley dominated like crazy though.

Only 2 weeks until league championships!
 
#91
I've been procrastinating this post since so much has happened. Rip.

Quick summary: Raced Mt. Sac sweeps against awesome teams like Great Oak/Dana Hills, got 16:31 and also got wrecked by really fast people. Got second at League finals, led JV to victory. Thrown into CIF Prelims to rest other guys, time equivalent was 15:45 for 3 miles. Boys team didn't make state this year by 3 points, but girls got 2nd in CIF. I drove up to the CA State meet to watch the girls and one of our guys race (he made it individually). The girls got 3rd in state. We also had a girl qualify for NXN after running the 4th fastest time at state; she got 48th at NXN. Now I have the banquet soon and am trying to get back in shape. Getting back in shape is tough... once again, rip.

I have had a fun season and I'm glad I've been able to run for the past four years. I hope you all have similar experiences once your senior seasons are over and can keep working hard.
 
#92
I haven't really looked at this thread since XC season so I decided to update a bit.

At our state XC meet our team came in 11th but we kinda choked and only one kid ran a good race so that was pretty unfortunate. We didn't qualify for the Meet of Champions so my PR was 17:34 so that was better than I wanted at the beginning of the season so next year I'm shooting for 16:45 because I'd love to run at like a D3 college and if I could hit times like that I could run at some of the colleges I want to go to :)

Also we graduate a whopping 0 seniors from our varsity squad so we want to definitely make MOCs as a team and maybe sneak in to 6th place there and punch ourselves a ticket to New Englands.

Indoor track season is my least favorite season but it went decently well. I PRed every race in the 3000 to a new PR of 10:15 which is pretty good for me, cutting a nice 55 seconds off last season's PR (I don't like to talk about last season) and next season I want to qualify for the state meet in the 3000

Unfortunately I can't do spring season this year because I'm doing an internship but I'm gonna continue running to stay in shape for XC season because that's the one that really matters.
 
#93
I performed pretty poorly during my XC season last fall. I kept getting a stomach cramp every time I race; I didn't understand. I was drinking enough water throughout the day, I think it might have been because I didn't stretch as much as I do on practices. In general, I haven't been getting much faster. I couldn't break my PR mile time (6:12) or get under the 20's in a 3 mile course. I wasn't improving and felt like I did better in my XC season last year instead of the one I had this year. Another note to add, I used to have more mental strength during the final sprints in my race. Now, I have a hard time trying to sprint when I'm so tired; I couldn't fight through the pain..
 
#96
I performed pretty poorly during my XC season last fall. I kept getting a stomach cramp every time I race; I didn't understand. I was drinking enough water throughout the day, I think it might have been because I didn't stretch as much as I do on practices. In general, I haven't been getting much faster. I couldn't break my PR mile time (6:12) or get under the 20's in a 3 mile course. I wasn't improving and felt like I did better in my XC season last year instead of the one I had this year. Another note to add, I used to have more mental strength during the final sprints in my race. Now, I have a hard time trying to sprint when I'm so tired; I couldn't fight through the pain..
I've gone through something similar over the past few months. I got sick and was recovering but then I started experiencing nausea and stomach cramps frequently during runs; it started ruining workouts but eventually that got better. However, I've been experiencing noticeable fatigue, muscle soreness, weakness, and shortness of breath and it's been getting worse in the past few weeks. My times have been trash the whole season and I run slower each race. Today I'm going to see a doctor and get my blood tested, because it's possible I've developed a form of anemia due to depleted ferritin levels. Distance runners tend to blow through ferritin storage quickly and several of my teammates have experienced it within the past few years. Hopefully the bloodwork will show what's wrong with me, since something clearly is. I also might take a lactose intolerance test since many of my more recent abdominal issues are common symptoms of lactose intolerance; apparently it's possible for people to develop the intolerance as the age.

If your problems aren't going away despite continuing to train and eat well then I would definitely recommend seeking medical advice. I wish I had done so a month ago but it crept up so slowly that I didn't realize it until things got really bad.
 
#97
I've gone through something similar over the past few months. I got sick and was recovering but then I started experiencing nausea and stomach cramps frequently during runs; it started ruining workouts but eventually that got better. However, I've been experiencing noticeable fatigue, muscle soreness, weakness, and shortness of breath and it's been getting worse in the past few weeks. My times have been trash the whole season and I run slower each race. Today I'm going to see a doctor and get my blood tested, because it's possible I've developed a form of anemia due to depleted ferritin levels. Distance runners tend to blow through ferritin storage quickly and several of my teammates have experienced it within the past few years. Hopefully the bloodwork will show what's wrong with me, since something clearly is. I also might take a lactose intolerance test since many of my more recent abdominal issues are common symptoms of lactose intolerance; apparently it's possible for people to develop the intolerance as the age.

If your problems aren't going away despite continuing to train and eat well then I would definitely recommend seeking medical advice. I wish I had done so a month ago but it crept up so slowly that I didn't realize it until things got really bad.
Just comfortably ran a 6:15 mile today, I feel better haha thanks for the response!
 
#99
XC season is here I for one am mad hype and it's my senior year of high school

My personal goals are to go under 17 and try to qualify for our MOCs as an individual and qualify for the New England championships as a team because we've improved tremendously since last year

What are all of your hopes and goals for the season?
 
I know this thread is old but I wanted to comment so here it goes. I'm trying to get back into running races after a long hiatus. In high school I was pretty competitive I ran 15:48 for 5 kilometers in cross country and 9:42 for 3200 meters in track and 4:34 for 1600 meters. I wanted to run at the D1 level in college but I didn't get any interest so I ended up becoming a walk-on. I found that even after a summer full of 70 mile weeks I was not prepared at all for the rigors of college running. I also didn't know what I was doing at all. I ran all the easy runs too fast and got destroyed in the workouts. All the running combined with the anxiety of the classes caused me to have frequent runner's diarrhea that I didn't know how to control. I ended up becoming miserable and I had to quit because I was in pain constantly and feared that I would fall behind academically as all I wanted to do was sleep after practice.

In the couple of years since I quit college sports I ran lightly (about 20-30 miles a week) on average and ending up switching schools as well. I'm 5 pounds heavier than when I started college but oddly enough found in 2017 that I am just as fast as I was in high school and that I could go weeks barely doing any running and not lose any fitness. I ran a mile by myself in August and ran 4:33 faster than I could do in high school. In September I did a 10 mile tempo run in 56:20. For the last few weeks I've been base building getting over 50 miles per week and eventually I may increase my mileage more. I'm hoping I can run a road race in a 5k PR this year though road races are tougher than the grass cross country races I ran in high school in my opinion. Good luck everyone in track work hard and you will run fast.