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Official Smogon University Simulator Statistics — April 2013

Discussion in 'BW Competitive Discussion' started by Antar, May 1, 2013.

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  1. Brave Bird spam

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    Wow this thread is really helpful since I don't have to jump between threads to see different stats. Thanks so much!

    And wow dusclops is trolling sitting right above RU
  2. MQJinx

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    UU

    | 1 | Heracross | 20.03529% | 47155 | 19.274% | 37080 | 18.240% |
    | 2 | Chandelure | 18.40495% | 43258 | 17.681% | 35979 | 17.698% |
    | 3 | Mienshao | 16.98402% | 37051 | 15.144% | 30692 | 15.098% |

    Obligatory.

    | 7 | Snorlax | 14.26290% | 33129 | 13.541% | 27436 | 13.496% |
    | 8 | Raikou | 14.08422% | 30662 | 12.532% | 24670 | 12.135% |

    Not bad.

    | 10 | Kingdra | 12.43372% | 29245 | 11.953% | 23465 | 11.543% |
    | 11 | Victini | 12.35933% | 28081 | 11.478% | 23306 | 11.464% |
    | 13 | Zapdos | 11.86649% | 26344 | 10.768% | 21722 | 10.685% |
    | 29 | Togekiss | 8.25501% | 20802 | 8.502% | 17013 | 8.369% |

    Top 10, anyone?

    | 32 | Ambipom | 7.52816% | 21453 | 8.768% | 18969 | 9.331% |
    | 57 | Meloetta | 3.80210% | 9216 | 3.767% | 7461 | 3.670% |

    One day you'll beat Awfulpom, Meloetta! Don't give up! Trust your instincts!

    | 58 | Dusclops | 3.59034% | 10068 | 4.115% | 8577 | 4.219% |

    Seriously just drop already.

    | 59 | Qwilfish | 2.68807% | 5356 | 2.189% | 4787 | 2.355% |

    Can this thing break into UU range?
  3. Alter

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    Ninetales:
    | Eject Button 3.237% <-- Yes! Eject Button getting love!

    Wobbuffet:
    | Custap Berry 46.689% <-- CustapBond grows as well!
    ~ Teammates
    | Ninetales +21.768% <v
    | Venusaur +16.046% <v
    | Forretress +12.194% <v
    | Chandelure +8.942% <- :]

    Chandelure:
    | Choice Scarf 58.550%
    | Fire Blast 55.332%
    | Hidden Power Fighting 28.023%
    ~ Teammates:
    | Ninetales +12.903% <-
    | Forretress +8.433% <-
    | Venusaur +8.290% <-
    | Wobbuffet +7.248% <-
    | Dragonite +4.285% <- huehuehue

    Venusaur:
    | Naive: 0/76/0/252/0/176 3.125%
    | Earthquake 22.904% <-- watch out heatran! :D
    | Hidden Power Ice 12.870%

    Sweet.
  4. Joim

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    The Gen 1 bug has been solved, so ignore newer mons on stats for now :p
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    | 51 | Haxorus | 3.97379% | 61323 | 4.469% | 46781 | 4.232% |

    Hang on, my beast! Don't face the humiliation of getting lowered!
  6. DoABarrelRoll

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    Gen IV OU:
    | 37 | Qwilfish | 4.42020% | 254 | 3.361% | 204 | 3.112% |
    | 38 | Froslass | 4.29746% | 277 | 3.665% | 257 | 3.920% |
    what

    | 43 | Weavile | 3.74674% | 374 | 4.948% | 311 | 4.744%
    Why so low? Noobs don't know how to use it, I guess. If it would fall, though, it won't stay in UU long since the SD set would be broken

    | 54 | Electivire | 1.78642% | 168 | 2.223% | 140 | 2.135% |
    OK so this is what happens after the Evire hype went down. Definitely deserved. He is too powerful for UU though
  7. Arcticblast

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    Gen IV tiers were frozen at the end of that generation and do not / will not update.
  8. TeamEmpoleon

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    Big post coming in (open)
    NU:
    | 1 | Golurk | 18.06659% | 25193 | 15.578% | 21776 | 16.518% |
    | 2 | Sawk | 15.60668% | 20966 | 12.964% | 16479 | 12.500% |
    Totally RU material. Totally.

    Ubers:
    | 4 | Genesect | 26.48893% | 1829 | 22.937% | 1566 | 24.719% |
    Yes please. Best scarfer. Ever.
    | 7 | Darkrai | 22.46035% | 1825 | 22.887% | 1475 | 23.282% |
    Darkrai is so broken. Dark Void = gg >.>

    Dream World OU:
    | 43 | Chandelure | 4.14652% | 1 | 4.545% | 1 | 6.452% |
    Shadow Tag Chandy isn`t that popular?

    Dream World Ubers:
    | 1 | Darkrai | 54.91734% | 14 | 43.750% | 12 | 47.368% |
    Totally

    | 11 | Raichu | 11.14737% | 6 | 18.750% | 5 | 19.737% |
    | 14 | Shuckle | 8.55769% | 2 | 6.250% | 2 | 7.895% |
    | 17 | Mightyena | 6.87824% | 4 | 12.500% | 4 | 15.789% |
    Lolwut. Aren`t these things PU?

    Smogon Doubles:
    | 20 | Kingdra | 6.70955% | 4482 | 5.667% | 0 | 0.000% |
    Should be top 15
    | 87 | Cinccino | 2.11411% | 1468 | 1.856% | 0 | 0.000% |
    Gizmo

    Tier Shift:
    | 12 | Amoonguss | 6.52355% | 1967 | 5.311% | 1648 | 5.418% |
    y u no top 10
    | 240 | Meloetta | 0.68366% | 339 | 0.915% | 258 | 0.848% |
    | 259 | Audino | 0.58685% | 232 | 0.626% | 188 | 0.618% |
    :evan:
    Gen 4:
    | 1 | Heatran | 41.41289% | 2880 | 38.105% | 2571 | 39.216% |
    Dat 40%
    The definition of OU.

    Analysis
    rain..........................19.93734%
    sand..........................19.19284%
    >.>

    weatherless...................90.38622%
    Hell yeah UU

    Changes OU
    | Keldeo | +2.45729% |
    | Celebi | +2.17710% |
    | Thundurus-Therian | +1.37390% |
    Kidogo >.>
    But nonetheless, they totally deserve it

    | Conkeldurr | +0.80709% |
    | Victini | +0.51819% |
    | Hippowdon | +0.34726% |
    Yes

    | Gallade | +0.29710% |
    No
    UU
    | Porygon-Z | +1.27948% |
    Low OU material people

    | Qwilfish | +0.48839% |
    Please let him be UU

    | Ambipom | -0.38875% |
    DROP HARDER

    | Meloetta | -0.57742% |
    UU YOU DISSAPOINT ME
    RU
    | Bouffalant | +2.45653% |
    | Amoonguss | +2.06208% |
    Afrobull + the mighty Sleep-inducer. Totally should get more usage.

    NU
    | Primeape | +15.41348% |
    | Scolipede | +14.60165% |
    | Jynx | +11.51539% |
    Meh
    Only Scolipede and Jynx are good
    | Audino | +0.67881% |
    :evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan::evan:
    Doubles
    | Cinccino | +0.64175% |
    Melo approves

    | Cloyster | +0.82188% |
    Melo doesn`t approve.

    PREDICTIONS
    Meloetta is gonna be used more.
    Same top 3
    Keldeo breaks top 10.
    Darkrai breaks 6
    Magikarp doesn`t get used anymore.
  9. Antar

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    I thought about doing that a while back to generate "move tiers," but I never got around to it.
  10. Doolez

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    Hackmons:

    11 | Shedinja | 15.11736%

    Why do people still use this thing?

    29 | Skarmory | 4.05624%
    31 | Swampert | 3.85652%

    Good to see these two being used more!

    26 | Magikarp | 4.40994%

    I love this.
  11. DoABarrelRoll

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    Gen IV OU:
    | 175 | Buneary | 0.01600% | 4 | 0.053% | 4 | 0.061% |
    | 176 | Piplup | 0.01600% | 4 | 0.053% | 4 | 0.061% |
    | 177 | Pachirisu | 0.01600% | 4 | 0.053% | 4 | 0.061% |

    | 182 | Regice | 0.01453% | 5 | 0.066% | 3 | 0.046% |

    I'd like to meet the 4 Dawn fanboys/girls that love her so much they take her Pokemon and bring them here on Showdown. I also want to know why 5 people use Regice incorrectly. Or why that person used it 5 times in a wrong way.

    Gen V UU:
    | 66 | Walrein | 1.68818% | 3758 | 1.536% | 2889 | 1.421% |

    Walrein needs much more usage. It's incredibly annoying on a hail team.
  12. Karpi

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    Ok, I'm mildly intrigued. Are you suggesting you use a team of Ninetales/Wobbuffet/Forretress/Venusaur/Chandelure/Dragonite?
  13. Buwaro

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    I was curious too, so I made a spreadsheet where I took each move listed on the Moveset Statistics of OU, then multiplied the usage of the move of each pokemon and the usage of the pokemon.
    The moves who have more than 5% usage are :
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    Other : 103,9%
    Earthquake : 102,2%
    Stealth Rock : 77,3%
    U-turn : 54,3%
    Stone Edge : 52,3%
    Hidden Power Ice : 51,6%
    Ice Beam : 47,9%
    Focus Blast : 45,1%
    Substitute : 43,4%
    Superpower : 41%
    Toxic : 39,6%
    Hydro Pump : 39,5%
    Scald : 38%
    Rapid Spin : 37,7%
    Swords Dance : 37,7%
    Protect : 37,1%
    Outrage : 35,4%
    Thunderbolt : 34,8%
    Volt Switch : 33,2%
    Shadow Ball : 33%
    Surf : 32,9%
    Recover : 31,6%
    Roost : 30,5%
    Close Combat : 30,2%
    Fire Blast : 29,3%
    Hidden Power Fire : 29,3%
    Bullet Punch : 27,6%
    Psychic : 27,5%
    Pursuit : 27,1%
    Psyshock : 26,8%
    Spikes : 25,8%
    Earth Power : 25%
    Giga Drain : 22,8%
    Dragon Dance : 22,2%
    Ice Punch : 22,2%
    Will-O-Wisp : 21,6%
    Mach Punch : 20,7%
    Draco Meteor : 19,6%
    Leech Seed : 19,4%
    Thunder : 19,2%
    Ice Shard : 19%
    Crunch : 18,6%
    Thunder Wave : 17,7%
    Dragon Claw : 17,3%
    Calm Mind : 17,1%
    Gyro Ball : 16,8%
    ExtremeSpeed : 16,7%
    Spore : 16,3%
    Wish : 15,5%
    Taunt : 14,6%
    Fire Punch : 14,3%
    Power Whip : 13,8%
    Iron Head : 13,6%
    Flamethrower : 13,1%
    Trick : 12,6%
    Secret Sword : 12,6%
    Baton Pass : 12,3%
    Drain Punch : 12,1%
    Dragon Pulse : 12%
    Roar : 11,5%
    Waterfall : 11,3%
    Whirlwind : 11,3%
    Bullet Seed : 11%
    Bug Buzz : 10,3%
    Pain Split : 10,3%
    Brave Bird : 10%
    Quiver Dance : 9,8%
    Perish Song : 9,5%
    Sucker Punch : 9,3%
    X-Scissor : 8,4%
    Nasty Plot : 8%
    Lava Plume : 7,8%
    Hurricane : 7,5%
    Toxic Spikes : 7,4%
    Bug Bite : 7,3%
    Ice Fang : 7,2%
    Icicle Spear : 7%
    Substitute : 6,9%
    Shell Smash : 6,8%
    Body Slam : 6,7%
    Fiery Dance : 6,6%
    Fire Fang : 6,5%
    Bulk Up : 6,5%
    Slack Off : 6,3%
    SolarBeam : 6,2%
    Seismic Toss : 6%
    Encore : 6%
    Sludge Bomb : 6%
    Fusion Bolt : 5,7%
    Rock Blast : 5,6%
    Flare Blitz : 5,6%
    Hidden Power Grass : 5,4%
    Rock Polish : 5,2%
    Trick Room : 5,1%
    Flash Cannon : 5,1%
    Growth : 5,1%
    Rest : 5,1%
    Sleep Powder : 5%

    I'm not sure how much accurate / relevant it is, but I felt it was worth making.
    If it is, I can say that Stealth Rock has at least a usage of 77,3%.
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    Wow, this looks like a lot of work (coming from someone who has used spreadsheets for these stats before). Given how Stealth Rock is basically the best move in the game, I guess it doesn't really surprise me that 3 out of 4 teams carry it (assuming they don't run more than 1 user per team). What I find really interesting is how for some of the lower percent moves like Shell Smash, Bullet Seed, and Power Whip can be attributed to one Pokemon (Cloyster, Breloom, and Ferrothorn respectively) and the moves usage largely reflects the Pokemon's usage. For Earthquake, the one move with over 100% usage, I interpret it to mean that for every team that doesn't have an Earthquake user, there is one with two users (or more).

    It might be helpful to note that these stats represent usage per team (at least I think so), and not per Pokemon, to clarify for the moves with lower percentages in your list.


    EDIT: Hm, still no 1850 stats. Bummer, Antar must either be really busy or having major technical issues with them.
  15. GOthee

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    What is the Cut off for PU? and otehr tiers?
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    It's 3,41% if i recall correctly.
  17. Antar

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    At long last, the 1850 stats are up. Thank you all for your patience.
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    The stats don't surprise much. Scizor, Politoed, Ferrothorn, Dragonite and Jirachi still being the kings and queens of the OU. And now, some stats that I wanna highlight:

    | 86 | Charizard |

    STOP USING CHARIZARD, IS NOT A FREAKING GOOD POKEMON!!!!!! Seriously, I'm tired of that fire lizard! Is-not-a-good-Pokemon!

    | 4 | Dragonite |
    | 22 | Salamence |

    What about that, Sally? Who is the king of the dragons of the OU now?

    | 2 | Politoed |

    Politoed, can you give us the secret of your incredible exit in the OU? It's 'cause I make it rain! Rain rules!
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    Finally, people did understand the benefits of using Earthquake sun sweeper Venusaur. My idea of PO grown up in PS too! :'D
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    This is always going to be a thing. Stop complaining.

    Many of the same people using Charizard in OU are the ones inflating Dragonite's usage. In the 1850 stats, Dragonite isn't even top ten... but Latios comes in at #10 by a hair. "King of the dragons" my ass.

    Salamence is also likely used less because the once popular Scarf set completely wiped the Dragon Dance set from everyone's minds, and now that the Scarf set is underperforming in today's metagame it's being used less (possibly contributing to Salamence's lower 1850 placement). DDMence and MixMence are still terrifying to face in battle. In fact, the old BW1 comparison of Salamence and Dragonite holds true once again - if you aren't using Extremespeed or taking advantage of Dragonite's better bulk (not just through Multiscale, but actually using some defensive investment), Salamence will always be the better sweeper.

    Earthquake Venusaur has been around since the early days of Black and White. It's also completely inferior to the pure special set. Don't pretend it's your idea.

    By the way, don't double post. Use the Edit ([​IMG]) button.
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    Can anyone explain the surge in usage for Wigglytuff in the 1850 ubers stats? I find it mindfuckingly random.
  22. Antar

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    Small number statistics.

    Wigglytuff only saw usage ten times, likely by a single player. But that player happened to have a good enough to get their team weighted pretty strongly.

    This is why we don't use 1850 stats for anything official--they're too easy to manipulate.
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  24. Antar

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    @dbzmariogeno What of it?

    Just means that Standard is an extremely popular format (no duh).

    Luckily, the ladder tries to match players with similar ratings, and we pretty much completely discard stats from players with ratings significantly below 1500 (keep in mind I'm talking Glicko2 not ACRE). So people who think a team with a Pikachu/Charizard/Bayleef core is pretty darn neat don't affect the rest of us.
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