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Offline Battle Tower teams

Discussion in 'Stark Mountain' started by TheMaster42, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. VashTheStampede

    VashTheStampede

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    @ Robo Mike:

    Yea, your right. I did use Ice Beam, lolz. Mind was in the right place, not the hands. That's why I said 4x weakness too ;/

    Anyway, any improvements for me? I was planning on using Gengar or Mismagus over Starmie (This get's rid of 2 Pokes with Elec weakness), but I don't have a trade buddy until HOPEFULLY Friday, so I can't get either.
  2. Dan Dan

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    Jump: really? I chose to use Heracross for the 2nd Tychoon purely because of Megahorn. If it misses, you'll lose but if you can't take out Cresselia quickly anyway you'll probably lose to luck.
  3. Krul

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    Died at battle 43: (Due to Horn Drill Rapidash)

    Garchomp @ Lum berry
    Naive Nature
    16 HP / 252 Atk / 240 Spd
    Swords Dance
    Outrage
    Fire Blast
    Earthquake

    Metagross @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    16 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Def / 40 SpDef
    Meteor Mash
    Earthquake
    Bullet Punch
    Explosion

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
    Dragon Dance
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Crunch

    Darn Horn Drill. Bit of a special weakness on my team though.
  4. paramylodon

    paramylodon

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    No, it's why you need Choice Band instead. You would have liver at full health then, and the Walrein would have fainted in one hit.
    Outrage would then also take down nearly every pokemon that doesn't resist it in the battle tower with one hit as well.

    Also, on the comment of Heracross for Cresselia; Tauntritar does it infinately better; it walls the Cresselia set, giving it 6 DDs, or 4 (you only need four to OHKO each of his pokemon) if you want to save time, and then you get to sweep...

    Krul, I once ran a similar team (with the difference being that my Garchomp had a choice band set instead of a SD one) before dropping Metagross for Starmie in order to cover some of the weakennesses better, most specifically, the one you have towards Mamoswine.
    Ice move OHKOs Garchomp, EQ for Tyranitar and Metagross...
    But, then again, by adding Starmie I replaced the Mamoswine weakeness with a Weaville one.
  5. Narshen

    Narshen

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    I got to the 43rd round with this team:

    Azelf @ Life Orb
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp
    ~Nasty Plot
    ~Energy Ball
    ~Flamethrower
    ~Psychic

    A standard Nasty Plot Azelf. I have found Energy Ball to be overall more useful than Grass Knot in the BT due to the fact that it doesn't have garbage power against light-weights.

    Garchomp @ Choice Band
    Trait: Sand Viel
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp
    ~Earthquake
    ~Dragon Claw
    ~Crunch
    ~Fire Fang

    Too lazy to rebreed for Outrage. Besides, I don't really want to risk something like Weavile coming in after my first Outrage to own me. Dragon Claw is still very effective.

    Tyranitar @ Focus Sash/Leftovers
    Trait: Sandstream
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp
    ~Dragon Dance
    ~Earthquake
    ~Rock Slide
    ~Taunt

    If I use this again in the BT, I'll be getting rid of Taunt. Pretty useless against computers IMO. Though, it's my only defense against Double Team...

    If Azelf goes down, this team will have some serious Weavile problems. In fact, the thing that beat me in the 43rd round was an Ice Punch/Brick Break Weavile. =/
  6. PurplePupitar

    PurplePupitar

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    Got to the 29th battle with this team...

    Azelf @ Life Orb
    Serious Nature (Yeah I didn't bother going with a Synchronizer)
    252 SpAtk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
    -Nasty Plot
    -Psychic
    -Flamethrower
    -Thunderbolt

    Nasty Plot and sweep, moves can hit any tyoe comination out there

    Torterra @ Quick Claw
    Jolly Nature
    Don't know EV's, he was my Starter
    -Curse
    -Crunch
    -Earthquake
    -Wood Hammer

    Basically there if Azelf faints

    Garchomp @ Leftovers
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
    -Swords Dance
    -Fire Fang
    -Dragon Claw
    -Crunch

    Just something that I had at the moment to fill the third slot

    I only got to battle 29 because my DS battery died in the middle of the battle
  7. Edux

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    LOL, Weavile rapes your whole team oO!!
  8. Fool_Hi

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    -64 wins-

    Empoleon @ Choice Specs
    Nature: Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 Spd
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Grass Knot
    - Aqua Jet

    Interesting lead. Hurts a lot and can shoot out a lot of attacks due to its defenses. Also used to cover up my other guys' weaknesses. Aqua Jet is really situational, but it saved my life at least twice, and there's not much else to put anyway. Gonna add a few speed EVs eventually so it'll outspeed Swampert. Anyone knows how much?

    Weezing @ Leftovers
    Nature: Relaxed (+Def, -Spd)
    EVs: 168 HP / 252 Def / 90 SpAtk
    - Sludge bomb
    - Will-o-wisp
    - Haze
    - Pain Split

    Bold would've been better, but oh well. Mostly for double teamers, but gets Weavile and stuff too. I think I'm the only one here with the Smogon mascot =/

    Latios @ Lum Berry
    Nature: Rash (+SpAtk, -SpDef)
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Calm Mind
    - Safeguard
    - Recover

    Lum Berry is there so I can switch into things, and in case someone I don't expect statuses me. Then Safeguard right after. Can also take all of Empoleon's weaknesses. Could definitely use a better EV spread.

    Apart from hax, the only real problem I've seen so far was a Pinsir. (>_>) Mold Breaker + EQ hurts.
  9. Mow

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    I got to 105 this afternoon just to get the silver trainer card and stopped.

    Did anyone else see that guy who says something like "Little Boys? Little Girls? Doesn't matter to me!" cause I thought that was damn creepy lol.

    after battle 40- something when you fight the tycoon the 2nd time, does he ever show up again?
  10. -FL-

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    No.
  11. paramylodon

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    It's randomly generated when you fight who...
    I got that rancher at 80 and 90 something...
  12. Forte_Dark12311

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    -I'm not gonna say how many wins-

    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Modest | 252 Sp.Att, 200 HP, 24 Def, 24 Sp.Def
    Trait: Intimidate
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam
    Surf
    Dark Pulse

    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Adamant | 252 Attack, 252 HP, 6 Spd
    Trait: Poison Heal
    Mach Punch
    Seed Bomb
    Facade
    Stone Edge

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Bold | 252 HP, 136 Sp.Def, 122 Def
    Trait: Natural Cure
    Cosmic Power
    Recover
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt

    This team makes me lol.
  13. RaikouLover

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    Im training up a new team for battle tower:

    Gengar @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Levitate
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 Sp Att / 252 Spd
    *Hypnosis
    *Shadow Ball
    *Focus Blast
    *Destiny Bond

    WILL kill at least one pokemon, hopefully more though. Hits everything neutral.

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Ability: Serene Grace
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD
    *Ice Beam
    *Charge Beam
    *Sing / Psych Up
    *Softboiled

    Hits everything neutral.. Again. Sing can get me multiple Dances on Salamence, but Psych Up is a serious consideration to steal those damn double teams. That guarentees victory on a Bliss!

    Salamence @ Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate
    Nature: Serious
    EVs: 142 HP / 16 Att / 216 Sp Att / 136 Spd
    *Dragon Dance
    *Dragon Claw
    *Flamethrower
    *Hydro Pump

    Meh. Mixed Sala inspired me. 310 for both attacks, 270 speed, and give him some HP for a little bulkiness.

    Simple. Attack type combos listed on each pokemon hit just about everything neutral. Gengar should win a ton of battles by himself anyway.
  14. Forte_Dark12311

    Forte_Dark12311

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    =/

    Why don't you use:

    Salamence @ Life Orb/Wide Lens (If you go Fire Blast over Flamethrower)
    Mild | 252 Sp.Att, 136 Spd, 122 Attack
    Dragon Dance
    Dragon Claw
    Hydro Pump
    Flamethrower/Fire Blast

    This set gets you 270 Speed, which lets you outspeed everything after a Dragon Dance (as state above), 350 Sp. Att, which is enough to use Hydro Pump and Fire Blast unboosted, and 336 Attack, which turns into 504 after one Dragon Dance. With a STAB'd Dragon Claw, this will be enough attack to OHKO-2HKO special walls/tanks. Fire Blast will hit Skarmory for an OHKO, It will hit Levitate Bronzongs for SE, If Bronzong is heatproof, it'll hit with Hydro Pump. Unless said Bronzong is carrying HP Ice and Calm Mind, Mence has nothing to worry about. I'm pretty sure Dragon Claw unboosted will 2HKO Blissey. Hydro Pump makes short work of Hippowdon and TTar. I can't think of any other tanks that might be sent in to wall this... so if anything can wall this set, let me know...
  15. SNX7

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    Made a new team, although I need some suggestions:

    Porygon-Z@Life Orb
    Modest (+SpAtk, -Atk)
    Adaptability
    252 SpAtk, 218 Spd, 40 HP
    -Nasty Plot
    -Tri-Attack
    -Charge Beam
    -Ice Beam

    As much as I hate to say it, I like this guy more than the first one I posted. EV's let it outspeed max speed Adamant Heracross, and OHKO's it with Tri-Attack. Standard other than the EV's and Charge Beam.

    Tangrowth@Leftovers
    Impish (+Def, -SpAtk)
    Leaf Guard
    252 HP, 228 Def, 20 Spd
    -Leech Seed
    -Stun Spore
    -Power Whip
    -Knock Off

    Ruins Quick Claw haxxors, and walls the shit out of a lot of stuff. He can paralyze anything, and dish out a surprising amount of damage with Power Whip. Tangrowth laughs at Weavile's Ice Punch, and paralyzes it, letting my other pokemon take care of him.

    Weavile@Focus Sash
    Jolly (+Spd, -SpAtk)
    Pressure
    252 Atk, 40 HP, 218 Spd
    -Swords Dance
    -Ice Punch
    -Night Slash
    -Brick Break

    This Weavile really owns BT. Almost Guarenteed 1 SD, and after that, he does a ton of damage, and is faster than hell.

    I'm not quite sure about this team yet, I made it past battle 35, but I'm not sure how it's going to do later on. Any advice? I'm thinking about putting Heracross in instead of Weavile, but then it'd give me 2x flying weak instead of 2x fighting weak. Maybe Electivire instead, Tangrowth absorbs EQ like nothing, and Electivire is plenty strong. I don't like him as much as Weavile or Heracross, but oh well. I really wish I could fit Heatran in there, but 2x Sp. Sweepers and 2x fighting weak doesn't look to good to me.
  16. SwordofAeons

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    Why charge beam and Nasty Plot? Thunderbolt>Charge Beam on that PZ IMO.
  17. VashTheStampede

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    Any tips for me? My stuff is above but got pretty much ignored.

    I'm currently breeding for a good IV'd Larvatar.... Should I take out Starmie and Toge and switch with T-Tar and Chompy? I would have those 2 and Cranidos, but I could switch him out with a SA Poke.
  18. SNX7

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    Charge Beam raises SpAtk, and is a great revenge killer. Thunderbolt is redundant IMO. The only time you're going to use it is against steel types. I go with Charge Beam instead.
  19. valir

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    Swellow@toxic orb
    Jolly:252 attack, 252 speed, 4 HP
    Protect
    U-turn
    brave bird
    facade

    Weezing@black sludge
    Bold:252 HP, 176 defense, 82 special attack
    Will-o-whisp
    pain split
    flame thrower
    explosion/haze (used both, currently explosion)

    Bronzong@leftovers
    Relaxed: 252 hp, 176 special defense, 82 defense
    Light screen
    Gyroball
    Explosion
    Protect


    Swellow was the center of teh team, and i would stall/explode pokes she couldnt take out. For a while i ran bold max hp/defense vaporeon with wish/baton pass/icebeam/substitute. Worked well, but weezing is cool.
  20. Ano_Otoko

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    Well, I'm something of a nub, but this is the team that took me up to battle 49 (and then got eaten alive by Palmer).

    Glaceon@Choice Scarf:
    Modest: 130 Hp, 252 Speed, 128 SpA.
    HP Fighting (70)
    Shadow Ball
    Ice Beam
    Sleep Talk

    Zapdos@Life Orb
    Bold: 252 HP, 36 Speed, 200 Sp.D
    HP Grass (70)
    Discharge
    Roost
    Light Screen

    Dragonite@Yache Berry
    Jolly: 252 Atk, 216 Speed, 60 HP
    DragonDance
    Outrage
    Fire Blast
    EarthQuake


    Had Zapdos playing both physical and Special sponge to acceptable effect (Roost is so completely awesome in the face of stone edge...or Ice beam, since it effectively removes the flying type). The dragonite is pretty standard fare, just DD and EQ\Outrage appropriately. And Glaceon, I'm starting to love that thing, ice beam has been pretty much 2hKO on almost every poke. Didn't really run into issues until Palmer and his damn heatran again. Zapdos was stalling it out quite well...until it exploded >_< Next up, Dragonite and Regigigas ended up killing each other, and finally, Cressalia Moonlighted and CMed up until it killed Glaceon with psychic.
  21. Charizard90

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    I got to battle 50 and lost because Gyro Ball and mega horn missed... seriously how can 100 accuracy move miss... i understand mega horn missing but gyro ball...

    The battle went something like this

    Guy sends out slowbro
    I send out heracross

    I use megahorn-misses
    Guy uses psychic- Hera is dead

    I send out magnezone and use thunderbolt- slowbro is dead
    Guy sends out medicham

    I switch to bronzong... i shouldnt have done this
    Guy uses drain punch

    Medicham tightens its focus
    I use gyro ball-misses... why...
    Medicham uses focus punch- Bronzong is dead

    I send out magnezone

    Medicham uses drain punc- Magnezone is left with 20 something hp
    I use thunderbolt- medicham is dead

    Guy sends out latios

    Latios uses psychic- magnezone dies i lose...





    This was the team:

    Heracross (Female)- Swarm @ Choice Band
    Adamant

    -Mega horn
    -Stone edge
    -Earthquake
    -Close Combat

    255 evs in atk and 255 evs in speed



    Magnezone -Sturdy @ Expert belt
    Modest

    -Thunderbolt
    -Flash Cannon
    -Tri attack
    -Magnet rise

    252 evs in sp atk and 128 evs in def and sp def



    Bronzong - Levitate @ Leftovers
    Relaxed

    -Hypnosis
    -Trick room
    -Gyro ball
    -Earthquake

    252 evs in hp and 252 evs in atk 6 evs in def


    This team worked fine for me.
  22. K to the Y

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    Lost to Palmer's 2nd team.:

    Garchomp@Cscarf
    Adamant
    Eq
    Outrage
    Crunch
    FireFang

    Starmie@LifeOrb
    Psychic
    Tbolt
    IB
    Surf

    Gyarados@Lefties
    DD
    EQ
    Ice Fang
    Waterfall

    Basically I lost because I got unlucky and got CH'ed Psychic while I was DDing up when it was down to my Gyarados vs. his Cressy. =/
  23. Robo Mike

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    I feel sorry for you, falling to a Critical Hit... well, we all get hit by hax OHKO moves all the time...

    ***

    My Doubles Team from the previous page made it to 100, earning me a star. W00t! Now to redo it on Singles to get my Gold Trophy...

    Starmie @ Focus Sash
    Modest / 252 SA, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Surf
    Psychic

    Sash, Orb or not, Starmie destroys entire teams.

    Gengar @ Life Orb
    Modest / 252 SA, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    HP Ice
    T-Bolt
    Shadow Ball
    Sludge Bomb

    The backup sweeper "in case" Starmie falls.

    Metagross @ Leftovers
    Adamant / 252 Attack, 152 HP, 100 Speed
    Thunderpunch
    Meteor Mash
    Earthquake
    Agility

    If there's too many defensive Pokemon, Metagross will handle it.

    ***

    I plan special teams for Palmer's teams...
    Battle 1: "StarMilotic" + anyone I like to give an Ability Ribbon to
    Battle 2: Adamant Lucario with Crunch, Earthquake, Close Combat, Swords Dance handles everything. If "Gigas Goes First", that's 2 free Swords Dances.
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    Timid Roserade @ Focus Sash
    252 SpA/252 Spe/6HP
    -Sleep Powder
    -Leaf Storm
    -Leech Seed
    -Sludge Bomb

    Adamant Rhyperior @ Passho Berry
    252 HP/252 Atk/6 Def
    -Swords Dance
    -Stone Edge
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake

    Modest Heatran @ Life Orb
    200 Spe/252 SpA/36 SpD/Rest in HP
    -Earth Power
    -Overheat
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Explosion

    I haven't played with the offline BT a whole lot, but I got to 34 with this team, then lost to hax. Killed a Breloom with Sludge Bomb and then faced an Infernape and Sludge Bombed it. It was left in the red, and had been poisoned. Then, Infernape used Flamethrower, activating Roserade's Focus Sash...and burning it. Dead, switched to Rhyperior, and because I'm stupid, I didn't expect the incoming Grass Knot. Well, Infernape finally dies of poison, and it's Heatran vs. Gallade. Heatran outspeeds Gallade and Overheat misses. Close Combat doesn't, and I white out.

    And the irony is that...the trainer who I faced was the same one who stopped my streak the last time I had been on one in the BT. I remember cause his starting phrase was "You're under arrest! You're under arrest!" and I was thinking that that sounded really stupid.

    My actual record is 37, but I forgot what team I used during that streak.
  25. Arvandor

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    Win Streak 54 (I know I could have done better if I'd bother to get Explosion for Meta)

    Metagross@Lum Berry
    Adamant: 252 attk, 152 speed, 106 hp
    Agility
    Earthquake
    Meteor Mash
    Hammer Arm ^^;

    Dragonite@Focus Sash
    Adamant: 252 attk, 200 speed, 58 hp
    Dragon Dance
    Outrage
    Earthquake
    Fire Blast

    Snorlax@Chesto Berry
    Thick Fat
    Adamant: 252 hp, 158 def, 100 sp def
    Curse
    Return
    Crunch
    Rest

    Between Metagross and Dragonite, everything is resisted/negated except dark/ghost, and Snorlax covers ghost. Snorlax is also resistant to fire and ice, which are SE against Gross and Dragonite respectively. Though, since switching in the BT is generally pointless, I'll probably switch out for a third sweeper... like a NP Azelf if I can trade for a one with a decent nature/IVs. I lost to hax against a Mamoswine... Battle went like this.

    Metagross uses Meteor Mash, it misses (big shock)
    Mamoswine uses Fissure, it hits, OHKO (another big shock)
    Go Dragonite
    Dragonite uses Dragon Dance
    Mamoswine uses Ice Fang, Dragonite holds on with Focus Sash
    Dragonite uses Outrage, 98% damage (you've got to be kidding me)
    Mamoswine uses Ice Fang, Dragonite dies.
    Go on Snorlax
    Mamoswine uses Fissure, OHKO.

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