1. Welcome to Smogon Forums! Please take a minute to read the rules.
  2. New to the forums? Check out our Mentorship Program!
    Our mentors will answer your questions and help you become a part of the community!

Offline Battle Tower teams

Discussion in 'Stark Mountain' started by TheMaster42, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. Shiny Crobat

    Shiny Crobat

    Joined:
    May 26, 2007
    Messages:
    1,675
    Sure:

    Weavile
    Item: Choice band
    Ev's: 252 atk, 252 spd
    Moves:
    Pursuit
    Night slash
    Brick Break
    Ice Punch
    Nature: jolly

    Starmie
    Item: focus sash
    Ev's: 252 sp atk, 252 spd
    Moves:
    Ice beam
    Psychic
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Nature: modest

    Garchomp
    Item: life orb
    Ev's: 252 atk, 252 spd
    Moves:
    Swords dance
    Dragon Claw
    Earth quake
    Fire Fang
    Nature: jolly

    Good?
  2. Team Rocket Elite

    Team Rocket Elite Data Integration Thought Entity
    is a Pokemon Researcher

    Joined:
    May 3, 2005
    Messages:
    1,006
    I've got a couple teams that have gotten pretty far. Here's the one I used for my longest Single Battle Tower streak in my English Pearl game:

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk)
    EVs: 100HP, 252Atk, 16SpD, 142Spd
    -Earthquake
    -ThunderPunch
    -Meteor Mash
    -Ice Punch

    Gengar @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
    EVs: 6HP, 252SpA, 252Spd
    -Thunderbolt
    -Counter
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Destiny Bond

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
    EVs: 252HP, 252Def, 6SpD
    -Seismic Toss
    -Counter
    -Aromatherepy
    -Softboiled

    Longest Win Streak: 177

    Pokemon this team has troubles with include Infernape, Blaziken, Tyranitar and Hippowdon.
  3. TheMaster42

    TheMaster42

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    318
    Could you fill that in with Natures, GeNeSiS`?
  4. TheMaster42

    TheMaster42

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    318
    Thanks Jumpman16, that's really appreciated! =D

    I just wanted to make something I thought would be useful for myself - I'm glad others find it to be as well!

    Ahh, I bred a Tyranitar specifically to kill Focus Sashers. But I see now, that doesn't really get Garchomp. >.<

    Bronzong seems really slow (to kill things) - do you think walls can do well in this kind of environment?
  5. Volteon

    Volteon

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    324
    I got to battle 86 using...

    Heracross @ Choice Band
    Jolly ; 6HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spd
    -Close Combat
    -Rock Slide
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake

    Tyranitar @ Leftovers
    Adamant ; 252 HP, 252 Atk, 6 Def
    -Stone Edge
    -Crunch
    -Substitute
    -Earthquake

    Roserade @ Choice Specs
    Timid ; 252 S.atk, 6 S.def, 252 Speed
    -Weather Ball
    -Extrasensory
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Leaf Storm

    *Heracross is from Emerald, so no Pursuit, Earthquake was useful at KOing Electric stuff or fire Pokémon like Infernape (I swear my Heracross once resisted Infernape's Flamethrower). Not using Stone Edge since Tyranitar also has it and I don't wanna get haxed with constant misses, but I hardly used Rock Slide there.

    *Tyranitar is resistent to every weakness Heracross has and helps me a lot at dealing with Double team Pokémon since I use Substitute. It was supposed to be a SubPuncher, might do this for competitive battles, but in Tower Earthquake works effectively.

    *Roserade and Heracross are great combined, Weather Ball gets Sandstorm boost and effectively counters slower Fire, Ice or Flying Pokémon. Extrasensory is my 100% accuracy move against weakened Fighting Pokémon and Grass/Poison opponents, may replace it with ShadowBall to attack Psychic, but I have Tyranitar against them. Leaf Storm is a strong hit and run move and Sludge Bomb for STAB and Ludicolo which annoys me everytime I see that face.

    I'm planning a new team soon. I really don't wanna use the Pokémon I abused to get the 7 Gold Frontier symbols (Starmie, Salamence, Blissey and Metagross, and I can also add Garchomp, I don't think I'll be happy using it, since everyone uses him already.)
  6. iPodschun

    iPodschun

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2007
    Messages:
    1
    Died at 43 wins because I'm stupid:

    Gyarados @ Lum Berry
    Adamant, 212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spd
    Waterfall
    Earthquake
    Ice Fang
    Dragon Dance

    Garchomp @ Life Orb
    Jolly, 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
    Earthquake
    Dragon Claw
    Aerial Ace (to hit anything with evasion moves)
    Swords Dance

    Heatran @ Leftovers
    Modest, 252 Sp Atk / 100 HP / 158 Spd
    Lava Plume
    Earth Power
    Dragon Pulse
    Roar

    Each of them covers another's weakness going down the line. and are either immune or take 1/4x damage from another's 4x weakness. Lum Berry lets Gyarados get off an opening Dragon Dance at the least.
  7. JTX.PWNY.CR3W

    JTX.PWNY.CR3W

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    367
    [​IMG]
    Dragonite@Life Orb
    Dragon Dance
    Outrage
    Fire Punch
    Earthquake

    I'd much rather have leftovers on this guy but they have an item clause in battle tower.

    [​IMG]
    Skarmory@Leftovers
    Roost
    Whirlwind
    Drill Peck
    Spikes

    He was fun to play with on battle tower. Nothing could touch him

    [​IMG]
    Swampert@Expert Belt
    Stealth Rock
    Waterfall
    Roar
    Stone Edge

    He was also fun. He could hit hard and phaze.

    A lot of my battles I won because of Stealth Rock
  8. TheMaster42

    TheMaster42

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2007
    Messages:
    318

    Can you add natures and possibly EVs to that team? Then I could copy/paste it.
  9. Jumpman16

    Jumpman16 np: Michael Jackson - "Mon in the Mirror" (DW mix)
    is a Smogon IRC SOPis a Site Staff Alumnusis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Battle Server Admin Alumnusis a Researcher Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis an Administrator Alumnus

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2004
    Messages:
    4,754
    No problem, it's nice to see people who care about ingame play as much as I do.

    Yeah, that's exactly why I just got done breeding a CB Tyranitar, then a DD one, spent about four weeks off and on on both. One cool thing about the BT, in my opinion, is that it's not like these pokemon we're breeding for the BT are going to be useless in Wifi play — it's the exact opposite, of course. Breeding for ingame Battle Tower or Wifi Tower play is almost perfect for making a competitive 6-on-6 Wifi team in this regard.
  10. Drew108

    Drew108

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2007
    Messages:
    119
    Azelf @ Choice Specs
    EVs: 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd / 4HP
    Nature: Modest
    - Psychic
    - Flamethrower
    - Shadow Ball
    - Grass Knot

    Manectric @ Sitrus Berry (soon to be Expert Belt)
    EVs: 252 SpAtk / 252 Spd / 4HP
    Nature: Modest
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power Fighting (68 base power)
    - Charge Beam

    Flygon @ Life Orb
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4HP
    Nature: Lonely (yeah, I was lazy)
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake
    - Crunch
    - U-Turn

    This team has won me 49 battles so far, except for the 3th set of seven, where I switch Flygon for a Feraligatr w/ Ice Punch, to take down Palmer's Dragonite.
  11. NorthernPolarity

    NorthernPolarity

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1
    I got to room 73 with this team, although I'm gonna try again tonight, since I made a stupid mistake and kept my salamence in vs a lapras, thinking that Draco Meteor could 1 shot it. I'll post later, to see how much farther i get.
    Apparently theres lots of synergy with metagross and flying pokemon such as salamence, because the BT people are smart-stupid AI, who will EQ gross if they have it, which warrants a free switch in from salamence.

    Salamence @ Choice Specs
    Ability: Intimidate
    Nature: Modest
    EV's: 252 Sp Atk, 252 Spd, 6HP
    Draco Meteor
    Hydro Pump
    Flamethrower
    Dragon Pulse

    My starting pokemon, who's primary job is to 1 shot my opponents starting pokemon with a draco meteor, or hydro pump/flamethrower if they're weak to those moves, then switch out to my physical "tank", metagross, or my special wall, blissey.

    Metagross @ Life Orb
    Ability: Clear Body
    Nature: Adamant
    EV's: 252 Atk, 108 Spd, 150 HP
    Earthquake
    Explosion
    Agility
    Meteor Mash

    Decent sweeper, but I usually use him to explode something that salamence has trouble with, such as palmers cresselia. Note that agility is not very useful in BT, and that i'm using pokemon from my online team offline.

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Nature: Bold
    EV's: 252 Def, 252 Sp Atk, 6 HP
    Aromatherapy
    Seismic Toss
    Ice Beam
    Softboiled

    The real backbone of my team, blissey walls off any special attacker, such as palmer's milotic and heatran and has just saved me on so many occasions.
  12. Flash_gearz

    Flash_gearz

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2007
    Messages:
    653

    Well, after a while, you want to continue your streak, so you would want more walls/tanks
  13. extra

    extra

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    590
    died in battle 55 because quick claw metagross is a fucking annoying piece of shit

    Heracross@ Choice Scarf
    Adamant Nature
    EVs:252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
    -Stone Edge
    -Megahorn
    -Close Combat
    -Pursuit

    generic CS hera

    Azelf@ Life Orb
    Timid Nature
    EVs:252 SAtk/252 Spd/6 HP
    -Psychic
    -Grass Knot
    -Flamethrower
    -Nasty Plot

    awesome, I lead with this for the first 21 battles and it usually gets them over with pretty quickly

    Swampert @ Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 156 Def / 36 SAtk / 48 SDef
    Relaxed Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Hydro Pump
    - Stealth Rock
    - Ice Beam

    eh I needed something bulky on my team.
  14. VashTheStampede

    VashTheStampede

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2006
    Messages:
    1,489
    I keep getting walled at 42. I lost there six times in a row ffs! Anyway, this is my team:

    Ramprados@Sash
    Adamant: 252atk, 252spd, 6hp
    Crunch
    SE
    EQ
    Zen Headbutt

    Goes straight for the throat. I would have Rock Polish over Zen, but I have no more RP TMs. :\ (Was thinking about Swords Dance, not sure though)

    Starmie@Life Orb
    Timid: 252sa, 252spd, 6hp
    Surf
    Psychic
    T-Bolt
    Ice Beam

    This is what I used back in FRLG, except replaced it's item. Just attack things with weak SD or go for a super-effective hit 4tw.

    Togekiss@Scarf
    Timid: 252sa, 252spd, 6hp
    Air Slash
    Ancientpower
    Aura Sphere
    Wish

    I don't see much use out of Wish, but it could come in handy, imo. Thinking about removing AP because it's a bit too weak for me, dunno what to replace with. Basically, I just sweep with Air Slash + Serene Grace + TimidScarf = Go First and Flinch. Personal Record is flinching T-Tar 5 times then killing it, go me!

    The last time I lost was to Yanmega, Arcanine, and Staraptor or whatever.

    Go STARMIE!
    Toolbag sent out YANMEGA!
    STARMIE goes TWINKLE TWINKLE LITTLE STAR! (T-Bolt) (90%)!!!!!11!
    YANMEGA lols then BUG BUZZ FTW! (100%)


    Vash Cries and says "WTF IT LIVED THROUGH 4x WEAKNESS!"

    Go GotheKiss! Flinchaxx of DOOM! (10%) YEA! I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!


    Toolbag gets a Bone(r) and sends out ARCANINE! PUPPY POWER!


    GotheKiss uses Air Slash again! WTF IT MISSED! (0%)
    Arcanine sees an opening! FLARE BLITZ! (78%)
    Arcanine takes Master Toolbags Bone(r)! EXTREMESPEED!


    Vash curses really loud at the air! GO CHUCKLES! (Ramprados)
    Arcanine is like "LOL IM FAST!" EXTREMESPEED! (55%)

    Wellllllllll... there goes Sash.
    Chuckles giggles and uses EARTHQUAKE! (100%) Shake and Bake my Hot Dogs.


    Toolbag sends out Staraptor, flailing and screaming "GG NOOB!"
    The Bird uses CLOSE COMBAT and fossilizes Ramprados! (45%)


    Anyway, long story short, I need to know: Should I change anything, or was it just stupidity on my part for thinking Mega was Drag/Fly? I think it was the latter, but may need changes anyway. ;]
  15. Robo Mike

    Robo Mike

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    289
    Why T-Bolt? If you thought Yanmega was Dragon/Flying (which it isn't) shouldn't you have used Ice Beam? Well it didn't die, I guess if your Starmie was Modest it would've made the difference?

    ***

    I've been playing Doubles a lot recently (still figuring out a better Singles team from my box of EV-trained competitors), and when I got a 70+ streak from MULTI BATTLE, I feel I can do better in Doubles when I'm in control of everything? Or is that worse, since my computer teammate seemingly gets the "Battle Tower Hax Bonus"... anyway...

    I'm at 63 wins and counting right now...

    Gengar @ Life Orb (lead)
    Timid: 252 Speed, 252 SA, 6 HP
    HP Ice
    T-Bolt
    Shadow Ball
    Sludge Bomb

    Garchomp @ Choice Band (lead)
    Jolly: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
    EQ
    Outrage
    Fire Fang
    Stone Edge

    Milotic @ Wide Lens
    Bold: Forgot EV spread, but it had Speed, HP, SA and Defense EV's.
    Toxic
    Hydro Pump
    Ice Beam
    Recover

    Metagross @ Leftovers
    Adamant: 252 Attack, 180 HP, 76 Speed
    Meteor Mash
    EQ
    Thunder Punch
    Agility

    ***

    The goal is to eliminate at least one of the opposition with both leads, even at a suicidal cost. The times I lost, both leads of the computer opponent survived, or in one case, Garchomp got stuck doing Earthquake against an opponent's Drifblim. The Drifblim exploded but I got awarded the loss. It's just plain BS that all ties are awarded to the computer...
  16. paramylodon

    paramylodon

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    238
    Garchomp@choice band
    Jolly; 31 IVs in Attack and Speed
    EVS: 252 Attk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
    Outrage
    Earthquake
    Fire Fang
    Stone Edge/crunch/filler

    Not much that doesn't resist Outrage survives it in the battle tower...

    Tyranitar@leftovers
    Adamant Nature; 31 IVs in Attack, Defense, and speed.
    EVs: 252 Attk, 160 Spd, 96 HP
    Taunt
    Dragon Dance
    Crunch
    Earthquake
    Crunch over a rock move because crunch has 100% accuracy, unlike all physical rock ones, and I still wanted STAB (while having minimal misses).
    I'm sure you all know how this works...Random pokemon like Palmer's Cresellia let him instantly set up...

    Starmie@choice specs
    Timid Nature, I don't remember the IVs, but it's hidden power type is fighting with 70 power...
    EVS: 252 Spd, 252 Sp Attk, 4 HP
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam
    Hidden Power

    Biggest problem is weavile; no other pokemon other then Gastrodon (lol) has ever really caused problems.
    However, for some reason Weaviles are slower then Starmie, letting them be OHKOed via HP: fighting.
    Type coverage of the team is overall quite excelent...
    I currently have a win streak of 105, being to lazy to get it any higher after becoming satisfied with the result, as I doubt I get any further rewords other then more bp (although, if you wish to gain massive amounts of bp, it is faster to intentially lose, so that you can re-battle Palmer to get the 20 bp he grants you)...
  17. Dan Dan

    Dan Dan

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2005
    Messages:
    4,748
    My best team so far has been a bug suprise actually!

    Yanmega@Choice Specs
    Timid
    [Colour Glasses]
    -Bug Buzz
    -HP Ice [64]
    -Air Slash
    -Shadow Ball/Ancient Power [I used Ancient Power for the first 35, then changed to Shadow Ball]

    Metagross@Choice Band
    Adamant
    [Clear Body]
    -Meteor Mash
    -Explosion
    -Earthquake
    -Zen Headbutt

    Snorlax@Leftovers
    [Careful]
    -Curse
    -Shadow Ball
    -Body Slam
    -Rest

    Up to 42 so far, might try Heracross/Electivire/Gyarados for the Battle Tychoon.
  18. Expert Evan

    Expert Evan every battle has a smell!
    is a Forum Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2007
    Messages:
    3,841
    This following team once got me to 64 wins until the 65th battle involving regigigas(doubleteam), regirock(pa$$hole berry) & regice:

    Weavile
    Item: Expert Belt
    Ev's: 252 atk, 216 spd, 40 hp
    Moves:
    swords dance
    Night slash
    Brick Break
    Ice Punch
    Nature: jolly

    Starmie
    Item: brightpowder
    Ev's: 252 sp atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
    Moves:
    Ice beam
    Psychic
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Nature: modest

    electivire
    Item: life orb / muscle band
    Ev's: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
    Moves:
    thunderpunch
    ice punch
    Earth quake
    cross chops
    Nature: adamant

    For alternatives, I have Juuka's rash heatran and an adamant gyarados as lately I cannot seem to get past the 36-42 round.
  19. Judgement

    Judgement
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnus

    Joined:
    May 24, 2006
    Messages:
    1,935
    Starmie @ Choice Specs
    Timid Nature / Natural Cure
    36 HP / 220 Speed / 252 Satk
    -Grass Knot
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Thunderbolt

    Metagross @ Life Orb
    Adamant Nature / Clear Body
    252 HP / 232 Atk / 16 Def / 8 Speed
    -Meteor Mash
    -Bullet Punch
    -Earthquake
    -Pursuit

    Heracross @ Leftovers
    Adamant Nature / Guts
    6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
    -Megahorn
    -Night Slash
    -Stone Edge
    -Close Combat

    I got to battle 47 but then I got lucked out. I haven't tried since.
  20. Ujjay

    Ujjay

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2007
    Messages:
    233
    Not sure if this is needed but:

    Sapphire BT team for 105 wins was:

    Dusclops@Lum Berry,Bold 252HP, 129 Def, 129 SP def
    Rest
    Calm Mind
    Ice Beam
    Will O Wisp

    Burns physical attackers and CM and ice beam for latios.

    Suicune@Leftovers, modest 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SP def
    Toxic
    Calm Mind
    Ice Beam
    Surf

    Ice beam for latios, toxic for tanks.

    Crobat@Choice Band, Hasty 252 speed, 252 Atk, 4 HP
    HP Ground
    Aerial Ace
    Slude Bomb
    Shadow Ball

    Kills almost everything (except latios).

    This is my current diamond team, got around 40 wins.

    Azelf@Focus Sash, 100 Speed, 100 SP atk Timid (in game shiny)
    Explosion
    Nasty Plot
    Thunderbolt
    Psychic

    Kills stuff then explodes.

    Suicune@Leftovers, modest 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 SP def
    Toxic
    Calm Mind
    Ice Beam
    Surf

    Tanks

    Swampert@Shell Bell, 129 HP, 129 SP def, 252 Atk, quirky (in game shiny)
    Curse
    Stone Edge
    Earthquake
    Waterfall

    Curses then kills stuff.
  21. Robo Mike

    Robo Mike

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    289
    Wow... why this? I thought you'd put lefties on Meta because it has high HP...
  22. Jibaku

    Jibaku Not taking FS requests atm.
    is a Forum Moderatoris a Smogon IRC SOPis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Super Moderator Alumnusis a CAP Contributor Alumnusis a Smogon Media Contributor Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis a Past SPL Winner
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2005
    Messages:
    6,112
    My team died to the second leader battle because Megahorn missed against Cresselia. I had pretty much the lead over him (3-1, as a matter of fact, and Cresselia singlehandedly overthrew my team thanks to a stupid Megahorn miss):(
  23. Pookaveli

    Pookaveli

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    Messages:
    31
    I got to 64 wins with this squad...

    Togekiss@Lum Berry - Rash (not the best nature, but it does fine)
    Ability: Serene Grace
    Thunder Wave
    Air Slash
    Aura Sphere
    Fire Blast

    Milotic@Leftovers - Modest
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Recover
    Toxic

    Garchomp@Yache Berry - Adamant
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Dragon Rush
    Crunch

    I ran into a team with Articuno, Walrein, and Lapras. Articuno uses Sheer Cold and OHKOs my Togekiss... Garchomp OHKOs Articuno with Stone Edge, then almost takes out Walrein, but Blizzard connects and OHKOs (which is why I need Focus Sash instead, stupid me). Milotic Toxic/Recovers until Walrein goes down, but then Lapras comes in and connects with Sheer Cold to end my streak... ugh
  24. mirza

    mirza

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Messages:
    923
    Yay, same thoughts here. Except that I bred my Tyranitars as soon as I beat the elite four long ago. Anyway, I got to 51 with the in game team I used lol. Soon as I'm done breeding my SD Garchomp I'll see how far I get with Garchomp, Gyarados, and probably CB or DDtar.

    EDIT: about my breeding. My DDtar took a few days, but I was really lucky and got a great CBTar in about 15 minutes. You have no idea how big of a weight that took off my shoulders.
  25. Jumpman16

    Jumpman16 np: Michael Jackson - "Mon in the Mirror" (DW mix)
    is a Smogon IRC SOPis a Site Staff Alumnusis a Team Rater Alumnusis a Battle Server Admin Alumnusis a Researcher Alumnusis a Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis an Administrator Alumnus

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2004
    Messages:
    4,754
    Megahorn is actually the sole-reason I will never seriously consider using Heracross in Battle Tower play from now on. I guess now that it has another STAB 120 base power move I could, but so does Lucario...

Users Viewing Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 0)