Ok so a lot of people have started talking about a mega sableye ban. Should it be banned? y/n
So for those of you who dont know, mega sableye is insanely good as a mega, and some say with the support it gets from dark its too op.
It has prankster pre mega, magic bounce post mega, and really good defensive typing and stats.
Common moves include:
knock off, will o wisp, snarl, calm mind, recover, toxic, confuse ray, foul play, dark pulse, shadow ball, taunt and even fake out.
So to start a list I would like to put in the type I feel like I know the most, steel.
Steel:
Personally I use Moonblast CM or Scarf Jirachi and hope for the best, but Mega Sab is really a pain to fight with.
Best case scenario is 252 SpA Jirachi Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 154-182 (50.6 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO, but that doesnt take into account that the pre mega gets prankster and if its not Jirachi vs MSab when it comes out then it gets a free turn, so mostly it looks like this 252 SpA Jirachi Moonblast vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 102-122 (33.5 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO and by then im hoping for a crit.
Another noobish way is Mold Breaker Excadrill since Excadrill Toxic vs. Mega Sableye: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- lol they switched out or used heal bell. Yeah.
So I went to Monotype the chat room, and I got the suggestions of LumSharp, Heatran and SpecsZone, and its my duty to show how they dont really work.
For Lum Berry Bisharp its +2 252 Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 157-186 (51.6 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO worst case scenario with +2 252 Atk burned Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 78-93 (25.6 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO the next turn, assuming no hax since "hax makes this pokemon not op" isnt that good of a reason for no ban. Next up comes Heatran, 252 SpA Flash Fire Heatran Lava Plume vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Mega Sableye: 159-187 (52.3 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage which actually works. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Mega Sableye: 196-232 (64.4 - 76.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO and Magnezone also works.
tl;dr steel can beat MSab 1v1 depending on the set with Jirachi moonblast, specs Magnezone, Lum berry Bisharp, and Heatran being popular choices for beating MSab.
However this is assuming MSab doesnt have any teammates, as certain moves like Heatrans lava plume might be easily switched into in dark, and Bisharp would be crippled the rest of the match unless hax and wow miss.
So for those of you who dont know, mega sableye is insanely good as a mega, and some say with the support it gets from dark its too op.
It has prankster pre mega, magic bounce post mega, and really good defensive typing and stats.
Common moves include:
knock off, will o wisp, snarl, calm mind, recover, toxic, confuse ray, foul play, dark pulse, shadow ball, taunt and even fake out.
So to start a list I would like to put in the type I feel like I know the most, steel.
Steel:
Personally I use Moonblast CM or Scarf Jirachi and hope for the best, but Mega Sab is really a pain to fight with.
Best case scenario is 252 SpA Jirachi Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 154-182 (50.6 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO, but that doesnt take into account that the pre mega gets prankster and if its not Jirachi vs MSab when it comes out then it gets a free turn, so mostly it looks like this 252 SpA Jirachi Moonblast vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Sableye: 102-122 (33.5 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO and by then im hoping for a crit.
Another noobish way is Mold Breaker Excadrill since Excadrill Toxic vs. Mega Sableye: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- lol they switched out or used heal bell. Yeah.
So I went to Monotype the chat room, and I got the suggestions of LumSharp, Heatran and SpecsZone, and its my duty to show how they dont really work.
For Lum Berry Bisharp its +2 252 Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 157-186 (51.6 - 61.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO worst case scenario with +2 252 Atk burned Bisharp Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Sableye: 78-93 (25.6 - 30.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO the next turn, assuming no hax since "hax makes this pokemon not op" isnt that good of a reason for no ban. Next up comes Heatran, 252 SpA Flash Fire Heatran Lava Plume vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Mega Sableye: 159-187 (52.3 - 61.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage which actually works. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Mega Sableye: 196-232 (64.4 - 76.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO and Magnezone also works.
tl;dr steel can beat MSab 1v1 depending on the set with Jirachi moonblast, specs Magnezone, Lum berry Bisharp, and Heatran being popular choices for beating MSab.
However this is assuming MSab doesnt have any teammates, as certain moves like Heatrans lava plume might be easily switched into in dark, and Bisharp would be crippled the rest of the match unless hax and wow miss.