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Do you mean "lol" as it "wow it's so much better than that", or "lol" as in "wow it's so much worse than that!" ?
If it's the latter, I agree with you. I'm pretty sure it's just because nominations for it to drop to C+/C got lost in the sea of other nominations.
What's the difference between full offense, hyper offense, and heavy offense? I see those terms being used sometimes interchangeably and sometimes not, so what are the differences?
I dont think there is any difference. I guess there's probably some really fine line, in that full offense would be such that every one of your pokemon is offensive whereas hyper offense can include things like suicide leads. Other than that there's probably no distinguishable difference. Heavy offense is probably just a fancy word for a really offensive team like hyper offense or bulky offense or it may even be a more offensive take on balance. Sorry I couldn't give you a concrete answer because I haven't ever heard of heavy/hyper/full offense being used interchangeably. The three terms are really just one in the same thing.
edit: just ignore my above comment, they're all the same thing unless you want to pick out every fine and unimportant detail.
Those are all synonyms, I'm pretty sure. They all reflect a playstyle revolving around purely offensive mons, aka sweepers and wallbreakers, with one hazard lead that doesn't have to be that offensive.
If there's any difference, it may be that full offense doesn't allow for a non-offensive hazard lead, such as klefki, whereas HO does, but I'm pretty sure there're no differences.
Pokemon on these playstyles are never walls, which separates the playstyles from balance, and almost never are slow and bulky, which separates the playstyles from bulky offense.
Keldeo is a great counter to bisharp, resisting both of it's STAB moves and OHKOing with secret sword. However, +2 sucker punch does a lot of damage.
Sashloom is also a great answer to bisharp, as mach punch OHKOes, and it doesn't have to care about sucker punch since jolly loom's mach punch outspeeds adamant bisharp's sucker punch. However, if bisharp is jolly, things get a bit trickier.
Cobalion,
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Chesnaught, Keldeo, Cobalion, Quagsire, Conkeldurr as far as more defensive/bulky options are concerned. Anything faster, just resist Sucker Punch.
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Namely faster things that resist dark including keldeo and breloom (via Mach Punch). Some other options that people haven't mentioned include faster pokemon that use Substitute (think SubSD Garchomp) and AV Bisharp with Low Kick.
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You mean Dark...right?
Is Snorlax usable at all in the ORAS OU meta? On paper it seems like it would be a decent Assault Vest user, but I've seen no mention of it.
No, not really. It's kinda deadweight versus most teams and has a lot of trouble handling the threats it would seem to be able to with an AV due to coverage moves and sheer power.
A big request, could someone tell me what is the "most common" team around? Just the kind of team you meet the most. If you could name me six pokemon that are often used with each other + movesets (or just moveset names, I'll check them on smogon) I'd be forever grateful.
(I kinda want to test some hipster ideas vs. a "typical" team)
(I kinda want to test some hipster ideas vs. a "typical" team)
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If I remember correctly the biggest difference between hyper offense and heavy offense is that heavy offense is build with a suicide lead, a few wallbreakers, a stallbreaker (or 2) and a set-up sweeper or something like that. Hyper offense is build with a suicide lead or a screens setter with many set-up sweepers which can punch holes untill one of the sweepers can break through.
Scarf lando-t, defensive rotom-w, standard defensive ferrothorn, LO latios, CM + magic guard clefable, mega of choice.
Results of Greninja voting are happening tomorrow, Serperior is our new god, nothing much else of note.Can I get a quick metagame update? Been away for a number of weeks, ever since the Greninja suspect began. What happened to that? Has anything become really popular and taken the meta by storm? Not expecting much to have changed but a refresher would be great.
Mgross has been riding the hype train.Can I get a quick metagame update? Been away for a number of weeks, ever since the Greninja suspect began. What happened to that? Has anything become really popular and taken the meta by storm? Not expecting much to have changed but a refresher would be great.
If it's ingame that is fine but normally you would have hidden power ice or hidden power flying over either thunder wave or nasty plot in most scenarios. It's usually tbolt, hpice, focus blast, thunder wave or tbolt, hp flying, nasty plot, thunder wave with leftovers on that last set. tbolt, hpice, focus blast, nasty plot is another one that sees limited use but is still effective as well.
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