bludz
a waffle is like a pancake with a syrup trap
I think Hoopa-Unbound moving to S rank is controversial in some ways (some people think it's overrated and it undeniably isn't super splashable like Clefable is, a fellow S rank) but makes sense in others. Even if it isn't the most popular mon, it's impossible to deny that it has greatly increased the viability of offense (which checks it well) and decreased the viability of slower, fatter builds which have serious problems with it.
I agree with all of the other moves but I do feel that Manaphy moving up to S rank bothers me a little. Not that I don't think it's worthy but I think Azumarill is a better candidate personally. Manaphy breaks a lot more fat cores but if we're admitting that Hoopa hurts the viability of fatness to begin with then how influential is this? Azu actually checks things like Weavile, Zard X, Mega Gyara and some other annoying shit like Excadrill and Keldeo somewhat. Manaphy isn't really a switch-in to anything. It's pretty nice for breaking fat cores (an undeniably amazing trait because breaking fat mons is meh unless you can break the cores they reside in), but I think Azumarill provides overall more team support in terms of checking things and still has solid wallbreaking ability.
I agree with all of the other moves but I do feel that Manaphy moving up to S rank bothers me a little. Not that I don't think it's worthy but I think Azumarill is a better candidate personally. Manaphy breaks a lot more fat cores but if we're admitting that Hoopa hurts the viability of fatness to begin with then how influential is this? Azu actually checks things like Weavile, Zard X, Mega Gyara and some other annoying shit like Excadrill and Keldeo somewhat. Manaphy isn't really a switch-in to anything. It's pretty nice for breaking fat cores (an undeniably amazing trait because breaking fat mons is meh unless you can break the cores they reside in), but I think Azumarill provides overall more team support in terms of checking things and still has solid wallbreaking ability.
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