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Parasect (Skeleton) (GP Approved: 2/2)

Discussion in 'Uploaded Analyses' started by FearZeCrawdaunt, Sep 21, 2011.

  1. FearZeCrawdaunt

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    NOTE: Edited title to spur this along. Not sure what else I need to do for the skeleton. Comments and criticisms more than appreciated.

    [Overview]

    <p>Parasect is one of the golden few blessed with access to Spore. Despite possessing worse bulk than Amoonguss and being unable to hold a candle to Breloom in terms of offense, Parasect has its own unique niche in the form of Dry Skin. Not only does this ability grant it surprising bulk in rain, Dry Skin also provides Parasect with recovery when hit by Water-type moves, a feature it can abuse with Rage Powder and a teammate's Surf. Unfortunately, Parasect's numerous weaknesses to common attack types in VGC make it difficult for this bug to pull off the goods. Nonetheless, it is capable of performing a very specialized supporting role, and is a worthy consideration for any rain team.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Rain Support
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Rage Powder
    move 3: Seed Bomb / X-Scissor
    move 4: Protect
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Sassy
    ability: Dry Skin
    evs: 196 HP / 60 Def / 252 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dry Skin gives Parasect the ability to recover a grand total of 18.75% of it's maximum HP every turn in the rain and with leftovers, giving him formidable bulk compared to other Spore and Rage Powder users. Parasect can also make use of Rage Powder alongside Dry Skin; partnering him with a Surf user in rain increases his recovery while also enabling him to redirect attacks away from your main attacker. Yes, you read that correctly; That's 43.75% HP recovery every turn, while your other Pokemon is protected and can fire away rain-boosted Surfs. Be cautious however, as Parasect's abysmal Speed calls for Trick Room support. While not entirely necessary for Rage Powder, which has a priority of +3, it is essential to allow him to use Spore effectively. Seed Bomb can be used to demolish Pokemon 4x weak to Grass-type attacks, such as Ground / Water or Rock / Water Pokemon, while X-Scissor is useful for hitting Latias and Latios, but will never OHKO them. Protect, a staple move of the doubles metagame, also helps Parasect gain an extra turn of HP recovery.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs and nature are as such because Parasect is mostly going to be sponging specially based attacks such as Heat Wave, Ice Beam, and Blizzard. A Sassy nature and 252 Special Defence EVs helps maximize Parasect's chances of surviving these special attacks. 196 HP EVs provides Parasect with the greatest possible Leftovers number, and also gives him a little bulk on the physical side, which may come in handy. Furthermore, his resistances to Fighting- and Ground-type moves help him tank many physically based assaults in VGC. Leech Seed can further contribute to Parasect's bulk, and can replace it's attacking move. However, doing so would leave Parasect completely helpless against a Taunt user, so one should be careful when considering this option. Toxic could be used as well, to get past other bulky Water-types.</p>

    <p>Parasect is a pure support Pokemon, and thus requires a competent attacker to support; good choices to fill this role include Hydreigon, Dragonite, and Latios. Rage Powder can be useful, allowing your attacking Pokemon to safely set up a Swords Dance or use another boosting move, sacrificing Parasect to allow a teammate a free switch in. Another thing to take note of is Parasect's 4x resistance to Ground-type moves, which enable it to sponge most Ground-type attacks. Coupled with its immense recovery, Parasect makes an interesting and viable teammate to Earthquake users, such as Garchomp, Dragonite and Latios. Furthermore, in a clutch situation, it can serve as a guarantee that your attacking Pokemon will be able to finish off the foe.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: X-Scissor
    move 3: Seed Bomb / Rage Powder
    move 4: Protect
    item: Focus Sash
    nature: Brave
    ability: Dry Skin/ Effect Spore
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    ivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Parasect can be a pretty mean Sandman, thanks to its relatively respectable base 95 Attack stat. This Parasect plays fairly differently from the previous set as its goal isn't to tank attacks for its teammate, but rather take advantage of Trick Room with spore and its STAB attacks. Rage Powder is an alternative to Seed Bomb, however, as Parasect's dual STABs, Bug and Grass, have pretty terrible coverage. As this Parasect is more offensive in nature and prefers Trick Room support, it isn't as reliant on rain's Dry Skin recovery. As such, Effect Spore may be the better option to hope for hax, as Parasect won't be investing much into defences.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs make Parasect as strong and as slow as possible. The 252 HP EVs are in fact somewhat inconsequential, but if you did choose to use Dry Skin with this Parasect, it would at least allow Parasect maximum Surf recovery. One of Parasect's biggest strengths in this metagame is being a great Trick Room counter thanks to its abysmal Speed coupled with Spore, as well as its ability to 0HKO Latios and Latias with max Attack investment 100% of the time.</p>

    <p>Using a Focus Sash carries its own risks. Abomasnow, Tyranitar, and Hippowdon all break Parasect's sash with their respective weathers, making Parasect a poor choice against such teams. Multi-hit moves and Fake Out also break Parasect's sash, often leaving him without the opportunity to do much at all. Furthermore, faster spore users will shut Parasect down before Trick Room has a chance to go up if you don't predict properly with Protect.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>If you elect to use Effect Spore, Endure is an option over protect for the chance of Effect Spore hax. This isn't recommended for the Rain Support set, however, as the main use of Protect there is to recover HP. Substitute could also be used to give Parasect an additional buffer against attacks; this is particularly useful when coupled with a Surf user to aid recovery. However, the opportunity to pull this off will be rare. Parasect really requires X-Scissor to effectively damage Latios and Latias, so if you don't use X-Scissor, be sure that your team has a counter. Parasect can play similar to an Amoonguss or Tangrowth using Rage Powder and a sleep inducing move, but those two perform better with their superior bulk.</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Thanks to its atrocious typing, mediocre offenses and poor Speed, it may be easier to describe what won't counter Parasect. With a 4x weakness to Fire- and Flying-Type attacks, as well as weaknesses to Rock-, Ice-, Poison-, and Bug-type moves, it's a good bet that at least one of the opponents will be able to hit Parasect super effectively. However, Parasect does have surprisingly good bulk, and in rain, the only attacks one really needs to watch out for are Flying-type moves from Pokemon such as Tornadus and other Acrobatics users. Faster Taunts from Pokemon such as Tornadus and Whimsicott, as well as faster Spores from Smeargle, Amoonguss, and Breloom also shut down Parasect, meaning Trick Room support is vital.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Parasect didn't get much from the Dream World. Competitively, Damp won't do much in VGC. It could be a surprise if you see a user of Explosion or Selfdestruct on your opponent's team such as Gigalith or Snorlax, though simply predicting and using protect will typically suffice. Parasect is also much better off running Dry Skin.</p>
  2. Jibaku

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    Protect and Endure run the same counter and thus can't be used to stall out indefinitely.

    Also Dry Skin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Effect Spore

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  3. breh

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    ahahaha effect spore?

    parasect is god on rain teams. it recovers so quickly that you often kind of lose track of it. if you leave it in rain, you will not have much fun.

    also that last set looks awful.

    the first set should have no aromatherapy slash and (IMO) X-scissor should be option one.

    please don't theorymon analyses. playtest pokes first.
  4. cosmicexplorer

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    He said he's going to test it, it's just a placeholder atm.

    The second set doesn't work, like Jibaku said, since Endure and Protect run on the same timer. Dry Skin also helps immensely with stalling; I'd try that on a stalling set.
  5. FearZeCrawdaunt

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    Yeah, just found out Protect+Endure functions on the same counter, nerfing the second set (seriously, Prankster Murkrow could really make it work if it did work that way).

    And yeah, Dry Skin in rain is great. I just predict weather battles to be inconsistent with all the weather spam going on. Most good teams should carry a weather counter anyways. I'll play around with it. It definitely helps with Parasect's fire weakness, but I'd rather tempt a flamethrower or something and switch in Flash Fire Heatran for win.

    The one other thing Parasect brings > Amoonguss is a x.25 ground resist, meaning it could potentially partner with an Earthquake user/ switch in to earthquakes and pretty much laugh off the damage, whilst retaining everything that amoongusss brings.

    Dry skin is just so unimaginative... I'll get on it. Haha.
  6. lucariojr

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    I can't help but think that Rage Powder should be slashed with something, because Amoonguss runs pretty much the exact same set, bar Water immunity (it still resists it though) and Giga Drain, so unless your team calls for it, I'd say Rage Powder is better left to Amoonguss/Tangrowth. Also Protect goes in the fourth moveslot always.
  7. FearZeCrawdaunt

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    Alright, edited and Dry Skin accepted. I was being silly wanting to use Effect Spore :P

    Also, I've found that parasect, coupled with surf, actually gives him a niche in Rage Powdering, since he's going to recover an extra 25% HP on top of the 18.75% he gets from rain+leftovers.
  8. FearZeCrawdaunt

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    Submitting this for QC. First analysis, so feel free to destroy it and rebuild if you want.
  9. breh

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    amoonguss!=parasect simply because of dry skin's healing. Parasect heals FAST in the rain. if your weather poke is dead and parasect is out, you are possibly screwed.

    the set needs substitute somewhere, now that I look at it.
  10. FearZeCrawdaunt

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    Sub in additional comments over X-Scissor or Protect? I dunno if there's really room on the set for sub...

    I'd save it for additional comments personally.
  11. cosmicexplorer

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    Put it in AC. Parasect really likes all of the moves currently on the set, and Protect is good enough for stalling anyway.
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    Alright, added. I don't quite know how this progresses, so whenever it's ready for voting etc... let me know :)
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    Please check the formatting, you have several errors with sections. You need a counters section, and there should not be a team options/specific counters header. Substitute should be mentioned in OO, not AC.
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    I think I've fixed the main formatting problems. Let me know if anything is still incorrect.
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    i dont think that parasect can make much use of a sassy nature, its defenses are too low (60/80/80). brave is the best nature, with a focus sash / yache berry as the main items. please change EVs to 252 hp / 252 atk / 6 spD. parasect also really likes having both seed bomb and x-scissor or else its walled by lati@s, please mention that in oo.

    jibaku dont kill me
  16. FearZeCrawdaunt

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    o.O

    That's completely counter-intuitive to the whole point of the set. Parasect's only advantage over Amoonguss/Breloom is Dry Skin. If you give it a Focus Sash you may as well just be running an Amoonguss, unless you really want that STAB X-Scissor (It's funny because I wasn't saying that at all at the start of this analysis). It'd definitely 1HKO the Lati@s twins... but you'd lose your only reason to use Parasect over something like Breloom, which can hit harder and spore faster (though it still doesn't get Lati@s twins, but the point is you lose versatility).

    I don't think Parasect is incapable of running that sort of spread, I'd just like to have a second opinion before I edit it in. I'd add that with 252 EV investment and a Sassy nature, base 80 gives you 284 SpDef at lvl 100 (145 at level 50). For some perspective, Bold 252HP/Def Blissey has 306 SpDef at lvl 100. So Parasect definitely can tank attacks from that side of the spectrum with EV investment, and most importantly heal it off through dry skin+leftovers+surf healing.
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    AlphaOmega and I have both used Sassy Parasect and it most definitely is viable. On a rain team sassy support Parasect can sit there keeping things asleep while acting as a sort of Trick Room counter. I believe that there should be both a support Parasect and an offensive Parasect should be mentioned.
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    parasect king has spoken n_n
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    Edited in Brave Bug
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    C&C policy is to keep set names standard; something along the lines of "Physical Attacker" is more appropriate than Brave Bug, however good it may sound.
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    I die a little inside, and it is edited. Other than that, anything wrong?
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    seems pretty good to me

    QC 1/2
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    I am down like a sad clown with Parasect.

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    remove add comments

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    Placeholder. Working on top of sirn's check.

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    [Overview]

    <p>Parasect is one of the golden few blessed with access to the move Spore. Despite possessing worse bulk than Amoonguss and being unable to hold a candle to Breloom in terms of offense, Parasect has its his own unique niche in the form of Dry Skin. Not only does this ability grant it him surprising bulk in rain, Dry Skin also provides Parasect with recovery when hit by Water-type moves, a feature it can abuse with Rage Powder and a teammate's Surf. Unfortunately, Parasect's numerous weaknesses to common attack types in VGC make it difficult for this bug to pull off the goods. Nonetheless, it he is capable of performing a very specialized supporting role, and is a worthy consideration for any rain team.</p>

    [SET]
    name: Spore (as sirn suggested, I also recommend changing the name to Rain Supporter or something)
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: Rage Powder
    move 3: Seed Bomb / X-Scissor
    move 4: Protect
    item: Leftovers
    nature: Sassy
    ability: Dry Skin
    evs: 196 HP / 60 Def / 252 SpD
    IVivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Dry Skin gives Parasect the ability to recover a grand total of 18.75% of its maximum HP every turn in the rain and with Leftovers, giving him formidable bulk compared to other Spore and Rage Powder users. Parasect can also make use of Rage Powder alongside Dry Skin; partnering him with a Surf user in rain increases his recovery while also enabling him to redirect attacks away from your main attacker. Yes, you read that correctly; that's 43.75% HP recovery every turn, while your other Pokemon is protected and can fire away rain-boosted Surfs. Be cautious however, as Parasect's abysmal Speed calls for Trick Room support. While not entirely necessary for Rage Powder, which has a priority of +3, it is essential to allow him to use Spore effectively. Seed Bomb can be used to demolish Pokemon 4x weak to Grass-type attacks, such as Ground / Water or Rock / Water Pokemon, while X-Scissor is useful for hitting Latias and Latios, but will never OHKO them. Protect, a staple move of the doubles metagame, also helps Parasect gain an extra turn of HP recovery.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs and nature are as such because Parasect is mostly going to be sponging specially based attacks,[add comma] such as Heat Wave, Ice Beam, and Blizzard. A Sassy nature and 252 Special Defence EVs help maximize Parasect's chances of surviving these special attacks. 196 HP EVs provides Parasect with the greatest possible Leftovers number, and also gives him a little bulk on the physical side, which may come in handy. Furthermore, his resistances to Fighting- and Ground-type moves help him tank many physically based assaults in VGC. Leech Seed can further contribute to Parasect's bulk, and can replace its attacking move. However, doing Doing so would leave Parasect completely helpless against a Taunt user, however, so one should be careful when considering this option. Toxic could be used as well, to get past other bulky Water-types.</p>

    <p>Parasect is a pure support Pokemon, and thus requires a competent attacker to support; good choices to fill this role include(!ADD EXAMPLES HERE!). Rage Powder can be useful,[add comma] in allowing your attacking pokemon Pokemon to safely set up Swords Dance or use another boosting move, sacrificing Parasect to allow a teammate a free switch in. Another thing to take note of is Parasect's 4x resistance to Ground-type moves, which enable it to sponge most Ground-type attacks. Coupled with its immense recovery, Parasect makes an interesting and viable teammate to Earthquake users, such as(!ADD EXAMPLES HERE!). Furthermore, in a clutch situation, it can serve as a guarantee that your attacking Pokemon will be able to finish off the foe.<p>

    [SET]
    name: Physical Attacker
    move 1: Spore
    move 2: X-Scissor
    move 3: Seed Bomb / Rage Powder
    move 4: Protect
    item: Focus Sash
    nature: Brave
    ability: Dry Skin / Effect Spore
    evs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    IVivs: 0 Spe

    [SET COMMENTS]

    <p>Parasect can be a pretty mean Sandman, thanks to its his respectable base 95 Attack stat. This Parasect plays fairly differently from the previous set as its his goal isn't to tank attacks for its his teammate, but rather take advantage of Trick Room with Spore and its his STAB attacks. Rage Powder is an alternative to Seed Bomb, however, as its Parasect's dual STABs, Bug and Grass, have pretty terrible coverage. As this Parasect is more offensive in nature and prefers Trick Room support, it he isn't as reliant on rain's Dry Skin recovery. As such, Effect Spore may be the better option to hope for hax, as Parasect won't be investing much into defences.</p>

    [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

    <p>The EVs give make Parasect as strong and as slow an X-Scissor as possible. The 252 HP EVs are in fact somewhat inconsequential, but if you did choose to use Dry Skin with this Parasect, it would at least allow Parasect maximum Surf recovery. One of Parasect's biggest strengths in this metagame is being a great Trick Room counter thanks to its his abysmal Speed coupled with Spore, as well as its his ability to OHKO Latios and Latias with max Attack investment 100% of the time.</p>

    <p>Using a Focus Sash carries its own risks. Abomasnow, Tyranitar, and Hippowdon all break Parasect's sash with their respective weathers, making Parasect a poor choice against such teams. Multi-hit moves and Fake Out also break Parasect's sash, often leaving him without the opportunity to do much at all. Furthermore, faster Spore users will shut Parasect down before Trick Room has a chance to go up if you don't predict properly with Protect.</p>

    [Other Options]

    <p>If you elect to use Effect Spore, Endure is an option over Protect for the chance of Effect Spore hax. This isn't recommended for the Spore set, however, as the main use of Protect there is to recover HP. Substitute could also be used to give Parasect an additional buffer against attacks; this is particularly useful when coupled with a Surf user to aid recovery However, the opportunity to pull this off will be rare. Parasect really requires X-Scissor to effectively damage Latios and Latias, so if you don't use X-Scissor, be sure that your team has a counter. Parasect has the ability to run similar sets to Amoonguss and Tangrowth (consisting of what, !ADD EXAMPLES HERE!), but those two do it better with their superior bulk.[remove space]</p>

    [Checks and Counters]

    <p>Thanks to its his atrocious typing, mediocre offenses and poor Speed, it may be easier to describe what won't counter Parasect. With a 4x weakness to Fire- and Flying-type attacks, as well as weaknesses to Rock-, Ice-, Poison-, and Bug-type moves, it's a good bet that at least one of the opponents will be able to hit Parasect super effectively. However, Parasect does have surprisingly good bulk, and in rain, the only attacks one he really needs to watch out for are Flying-type moves from Pokemon,[remove comma] such as from Tornadus and other Acrobatics users. Faster Taunts from Pokemon such as(!ADD EXAMPLES HERE!), as well as faster Spores from Smeargle, Amoonguss, and Breloom also shut down Parasect, meaning Trick Room support is vital.</p>

    [Dream World]

    <p>Parasect didn't get much from the Dream World. Competitively, Damp won't do much in VGC. It could be a surprise if you see a user of Explosion, such as(!ADD EXAMPLES HERE!), on your opponent's team, though simply predicting and using Protect will typically suffice. Parasect is also much better off running Dry Skin.</p>


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