PokéMafia - Devious and 2 Neutrals win!

imperfectluck

Banned deucer.
ok guys, let's do this

LonelyNess claimed to be neutral Castform (to more than just me, or so I have heard) and gave me his alias to check out when I claimed I was an inspector role (probably because he has some sort of moling ability.) What he said was that he was going to change the weather during Night 0 and wasn't going to do anything other than that because he can't do anything without there being a weather condition, but I have found this to be false.

I am actually the tracker role that finds out who someone targeted last night, and the alias that LonelyNess provided to me most certainly did not idle at home last night.

It is now time to lynch the alias he provided to me and confirmed by posting near-instantly, Picknicker.

I am not soliciting claims from anyone, but feel free to drop by and chat on IRC or drop me a PM or IM.
 

Fishy

tits McGee (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)
Well considering I am an unimportant role of THE PURE, I'm going to just say this. LN used my own alias to give to IPL just to save his own ass (something I regret doing now considering that I am a lynch target!) and I would really prefer it if you guys didn't lynch me. I am a member of the pure, and I'M SPEAKING TO YOU VILLAGE, lynching me now would only be a detriment to your numbers. Who knows what I can do later, since I can evolve.. You can ask around about me, many have it that I am indeed clean. However, although I don't know the basis for lynching Dragon Tamer yet, I can almost assure you that he is a far better target than I am!

For those who are slow: I am Picknicker, please don't lynch me kthanks.

Also: I've only been in two other anonymous/big mafias, I really don't want to die day1. :( If you've any skepticism about me, feel free to PM me! I'm more than happy to give you my role PM.

And just so IPL believes my claim, I targetted Gambler last night. (He is just an NPC)
 
Well considering I am an unimportant role of THE PURE, I'm going to just say this. LN used my own alias to give to IPL just to save his own ass (something I regret doing now considering that I am a lynch target!) and I would really prefer it if you guys didn't lynch me. I am a member of the pure, and I'M SPEAKING TO YOU VILLAGE, lynching me now would only be a detriment to your numbers. Who knows what I can do later, since I can evolve.. You can ask around about me, many have it that I am indeed clean. However, although I don't know the basis for lynching Dragon Tamer yet, I can almost assure you that he is a far better target than I am!

For those who are slow: I am Picknicker, please don't lynch me kthanks.

Also: I've only been in two other anonymous/big mafias, I really don't want to die day1. :( If you've any skepticism about me, feel free to PM me! I'm more than happy to give you my role PM.

And just so IPL believes my claim, I targetted Gambler last night. (He is just an NPC)
Don't worry Jeice, the Ginyu Force is here!
 
Ok, I'm tired of this bullshit.

Villagers, I am Noctowl, allied with the Pure, and I feel like this is getting too chaotic, what with Dak being awol for long stretches of time and his claim being partially sketchy.

We need to nail a mafia tonight, and I'm stepping forward. We know that Picknicker, aka Fishy, is definitely not mafia. I've reviewed her pm, everything matches up with the confirmed Pure PMs and mine as well, we have no reason not to mistrust her. She should not be your lynch target today. Rather, we should Lynch Dragon Tamer. He has been virtually confirmed as a bad man.

Do not trust IPL at this point. My sources tell me that he is in fact Regigigas, a wolf who needs to get in contact with the three other Regis, one on each team. Whether this is IPL being IPL or his actual role, that remains TBD, but if this is true, that means there is a mole on each team and I need to get your PMs as soon as possible.

If you haven't come talked to me, or claimed to me, please do so as soon as possible, whether through PM on forums if i'm inactive on IRC or on IRC itself. The sooner we can get ourselves organized, the better. The current system is not working.
 
is in fact Regigigas, a wolf who needs to get in contact with the three other Regis, one on each team. Whether this is IPL being IPL or his actual role, that remains TBD, but if this is true, that means there is a mole on each team and I need to get your PMs as soon as possible.

If you haven't come talked to me, or claimed to me, please do so as soon as possible, whether through PM on forums if i'm inactive on IRC or on IRC itself. The sooner we can get ourselves organized, the better. The current system is not working.
while i agree with the first sentiment, it is for different reason. nobody gives a fuck what ipl claims, it is not true in any case, that is why it is not advisable to care about whatever he suggests. as player of super, zelda, apoc, simpsons, megaman and viva la mafia might remember, believing anything this guy says is a pretty bad idea.

as moot is clearly not the brightest one out there, which is further indicated by believing ipls claims, it would be unwise of you to claim to him but not me, as it would interrupt the already well progressed unification of the village. we dont need so splinterring, it would only harm our efficiency.

(besides all info moot gets would land in my hand in about 5 minutes since my close associates are in his circle anyway)

also, the "dak being absent without leave for long stretches" is something they call sleep over here, i wonder if you have heard of it

now about the lynch target, i have nothing better to suggest atm unfortunately, so i will reluctantly have to agree with the kimono girl to lynch the dragon tamer. i have no idea who the girl is, and apparently neither does moot or anyone else, so her being a mafia that wants to gain trust or lynch an important villager is entirely possible. however judging by the fact that the dragon tamer has nothing better to say than *stare* we can safely assume that he is an okay lynch target and guilty, or else he would at least try to defend himself.
 
"contact me" is a dumb thing to say anyway especially if others are doing it. just contact others if you want to talk. especially if you have a specific target. don't be a pussy, just use your alias to PM battle girl or dragon tamer if you want to talk to them.
 
Ok I believe I've found someone so I figured I would speak out about it. It isn't hard evidence or anything, but I think LonelyNess (who appears to be Scientist on the breuleux forums) is a mole from either the Devious or the Strong. In these logs you can clearly see that LonelyNess is willing to hide my claim from dak, something which a mole would definitely do willingly. Secondly, dak doesn't seem to have been told about me being Wingull which backs this up. Thirdly, according to this post and this post, he tried to hide his alias from what he perceived was an inspector (imperfectluck) and made Fishy give up her alias instead. Here are the logs to prove this:

log with LonelyNess on IRC said:
[04:32] <LonelyNess> EW
[04:32] <LonelyNess> I can't recall
[04:32] <LonelyNess> if I've spoken to you
[04:32] <LonelyNess> about PokeMafia
[04:32] <Earthworm> [17:28:51] <LonelyNess> are you being interrogated for PokeMafia
[04:32] <Earthworm> [17:29:13] <Earthworm> i was
[04:32] <Earthworm> [17:29:35] <LonelyNess> I would have asked to talk to you about that game
[04:32] <Earthworm> [17:29:38] <LonelyNess> but I figured dak already will
[04:32] <Earthworm> [17:29:40] <LonelyNess> so I didn't bother
[04:32] <LonelyNess> oh
[04:32] <LonelyNess> well dak just told me
[04:32] <LonelyNess> to come to you
[04:33] <Earthworm> oh
[04:33] <Earthworm> i don't believe dak's claim
[04:33] <Earthworm> do you believe his claim?
[04:33] <LonelyNess> well, perhaps you will believe mine?
[04:33] <Earthworm> maybe
[04:33] <LonelyNess> I will keep it secret from dak that it is you
[04:33] <Earthworm> but i don't want it to get to dak
[04:33] <Earthworm> how can i trust that when you seem to be reporting to him
[04:33] <LonelyNess> I won't tell dak whose role it is
[04:33] <Earthworm> ~__~
[04:33] <Earthworm> lol
[04:33] <Earthworm> that doesn't help
[04:33] <LonelyNess> EW, I will only tell him that I found "a role"
[04:34] <LonelyNess> not your role
[04:34] <LonelyNess> but just an unmarked role
[04:34] <Earthworm> and you didn't answer
[04:34] <LonelyNess> so he can maybe pick a target for you
[04:34] <Earthworm> [04:33:20] <Earthworm> do you believe his claim?
[04:34] <LonelyNess> I believe it as much as you can believe any claim
[04:34] <LonelyNess> and it's easily provable
[04:34] <Earthworm> has he given his alias to you?
[04:35] <Earthworm> because you can't prove it without his alias
[04:35] <LonelyNess> he has given LightWolf his alias
[04:35] <LonelyNess> anyway
[04:35] <LonelyNess> I am Castform
[04:35] <LonelyNess> I can change the weather
[04:35] <LonelyNess> and depending on what weather is in effect
[04:35] <LonelyNess> I get different powers
[04:36] <Earthworm> i see
[04:36] <LonelyNess> but i'm "low on PP" so I can only change to each weather once
[04:36] <LonelyNess> in Sun, I can inspect. in Rain, I can hook. and in Hail I am bpv
[04:38] <LonelyNess> So, do you think me more trustworthy to claim to than dak perhaps?
[04:38] <Earthworm> what about Sandstorm
[04:38] <Earthworm> and are you village aligned
[04:38] <LonelyNess> There is no Sandstorm forme for Castform
[04:38] <LonelyNess> yes, I'm village alligned
[04:38] <Earthworm> what
[04:39] <LonelyNess> what do you mean what
[04:39] <LonelyNess> Castform doesn't change forms in a Sandstorm
[04:39] <Earthworm> o
[04:39] <Earthworm> i didn't know that o.o
[04:39] <Earthworm> weather ball is rock type though
[04:39] <Earthworm> =(
[04:40] <LonelyNess> apparently that doesn't count
[04:40] <LonelyNess> lol
[04:43] <LonelyNess> anyway
[04:43] <LonelyNess> can I get some semblance of a claim from you? alliance / role name / possibly role / evolution condition / items held
[04:44] <Earthworm> ok
[04:44] <Earthworm> but you must keep it to yourself
[04:44] <LonelyNess> of course
[04:44] <Earthworm> don't even tell dak
[04:44] <Earthworm> i'm wingull the pure
[04:45] <LonelyNess> role / evo / item ??? or will I be getting those at a later date
[04:46] <Earthworm> i can evolve
[04:46] <LonelyNess> by what means
[04:46] <LonelyNess> or do you know
[04:46] <Earthworm> using my role
[04:47] <Earthworm> that should be enough
[04:47] <Earthworm> until evidence is revealed
[04:47] <Earthworm> also
[04:47] <Earthworm> i'm going around asking random people what they are
[04:47] <LonelyNess> is your role an informative one or "other"
[04:47] <Earthworm> trying to collect information
[04:48] <LonelyNess> would you mind reporting what you find to me?
[04:48] <Earthworm> after you prove yourself
[04:48] <LonelyNess> I will keep what you say from dak if you desire
[04:48] <LonelyNess> ok so like.. after I get inspect results / lynch some baddies
[04:48] <Earthworm> yeah
[04:48] <Earthworm> hmm
[04:49] <Earthworm> maybe you could tell me who you're inspecting
[04:49] <Earthworm> so i can know it's you that did it
[04:49] <LonelyNess> no one tonight, I have to change the weather
[04:49] <Earthworm> oh
[04:49] <Earthworm> damn
[04:49] <LonelyNess> takes one night to change weather
[04:49] <LonelyNess> then n1 / n2 I can inspect
[04:49] <Earthworm> ok
[04:49] <LonelyNess> it's probably best this way actually
[04:49] <LonelyNess> so I don't waste my limited inspecting powers
first log with dak on IRC said:
Session Start: Wed Nov 11 17:12:08 2009
Session Ident: tramp
[17:12] Session Ident: tramp (synIRC, Earthworm) (~everybody@be.cool.this.is.a.robbery)
[17:12] <tramp> you pure
[17:12] <tramp> ??
[17:12] <Earthworm> it depends on what you are
[17:12] <tramp> everyone should know
[17:12] <tramp> i have collected all pure claims
[17:12] <tramp> with an ensemable of agents
[17:12] <tramp> i am the pure pokemon electabuzz
[17:13] <Earthworm> electabuzz isn't a very pure sounding pokemon
[17:13] <tramp> i dont give a shit
[17:13] <tramp> thats my role
[17:13] <tramp> it isnt very strong or devious either
[17:13] <tramp> in the first place
[17:13] <Earthworm> it could easily be strong
[17:13] <tramp> but it is not
[17:13] <Earthworm> i think you are probably not electabuzz
[17:13] <tramp> i am though
[17:13] <Earthworm> i suspect you are mew
[17:13] <tramp> my role is
[17:13] <tramp> carrying 2 items
[17:13] <tramp> instead of 1
[17:13] <Earthworm> why
[17:14] <tramp> flavour says
[17:14] <tramp> i belonged to lt surge
[17:14] <tramp> fought with him in the war
[17:14] <tramp> carried his equipment
[17:14] <tramp> hi ndering my fighting ability
[17:14] <tramp> but granted me the power to carry 2 items
[17:14] <tramp> instead of 1
[17:15] <tramp> how about you
[17:15] <Earthworm> lol
[17:15] <Earthworm> this is obviously fake
[17:15] <tramp> no
[17:15] <Earthworm> but i doubt you're lying about being village
[17:15] <tramp> its real
[17:15] <tramp> i swear by my grandfathers grave i have not emitted a single lie so far
[17:16] <Earthworm> i still don't believe electabuzz is your role
[17:16] <Earthworm> i guess Raikage could have rigged that
[17:16] <Earthworm> but it seems likely that it's just something to tell everyone
[17:17] <Earthworm> i'm pure yes
[17:17] <tramp> he obviously rigged it
[17:17] <tramp> lol
[17:17] <tramp> as i had previously asked for it
[17:17] <Earthworm> i see
[17:17] <tramp> so what do you do
[17:17] <tramp> or what are you
[17:18] <Earthworm> hmm
[17:18] <Earthworm> i am a pokemon that can evolve
[17:18] <tramp> do you need anything specific
[17:18] <tramp> i know many items
[17:18] <tramp> that you might need
[17:18] <Earthworm> i need to use my role
[17:18] <tramp> o
[17:18] <tramp> so what are you
[17:19] <Earthworm> hmm
[17:19] <tramp> (i only have like 5 more minutes as i have to leave for school ssoon)
[17:19] <Earthworm> should i tell you
[17:19] <tramp> i dont really care
[17:19] <Earthworm> i haven't told anyone my role yet
[17:19] <tramp> but it could be beneficial
[17:19] <Earthworm> i told imperfectluck
[17:20] <Earthworm> that i'm Arceus
[17:20] <Earthworm> (obviously i'm not Arceus)
[17:20] <tramp> lol
[17:20] <tramp> ipl is a good man to lie to
[17:20] <Earthworm> i will wait a little longer
[17:20] <Earthworm> just in case
[17:20] <Earthworm> is that ok
[17:21] <tramp> dontcare but if you think thats good do so
[17:21] <Earthworm> my role should be easy to prove anyway
[17:22] <tramp> tell me your pkkmn at least so i can check for double claims
[17:23] <Earthworm> sorry i'm being distracted
[17:23] <Earthworm> by several people at once
[17:23] <Earthworm> Earthworm: RBG will too
[17:23] <Earthworm> www.shaywin.com: i got lag
[17:23] <Earthworm> www.shaywin.com: hey if hes in grey can he still look at it?
[17:23] <Earthworm> www.shaywin.com: ill pm him on the forums too
[17:23] <Earthworm> sprinkles: ok nature for ttar
[17:23] <Earthworm> sprinkles: yea i know
[17:23] <Earthworm> Earthworm: i'd go with adamant
[17:23] <Earthworm> sprinkles: ok
[17:23] <Earthworm> sprinkles: same
[17:24] <tramp> lol
[17:24] <Earthworm> and some PMs from LonelyNess
[17:24] <tramp> i gave to leave soon
[17:24] <tramp> so decide quick
[17:24] <Earthworm> i won't tell you yet
[17:24] <tramp> you better not be something someone already claimed then
[17:24] <Earthworm> hmm
[17:24] <Earthworm> well
[17:24] <Earthworm> i don't expect it will matter
[17:24] <Earthworm> as i'll just give my role PM to you after day 1 if you lynch successfully
[17:25] <Earthworm> everyone seems to think
[17:25] <Earthworm> that it's impossible
[17:25] <Earthworm> for you to lie
[17:25] <tramp> lol
[17:25] <Earthworm> if you're actually mafia i think we're all doomed anyway
[17:29] <tramp> im leaving
[17:29] <tramp> send me a pm on smogon
[17:29] <tramp> if something new occurs
[17:29] <Earthworm> ok
[17:29] <Earthworm> [17:28:51] <LonelyNess> are you being interrogated for PokeMafia
[17:29] <Earthworm> [17:29:13] <Earthworm> i was
[17:29] No such nick/channel
[17:29] No such nick/channel
Session Time: Thu Nov 12 00:00:01 2009
Session Close: Thu Nov 12 05:24:53 2009
second log with dak said:
Session Start: Fri Nov 13 05:26:55 2009
Session Ident: tramp
[05:27] <Earthworm> i'm not mafia
[05:28] <Earthworm> i decided i will claim to you
[05:28] <tramp> ok
[05:28] <Earthworm> if you are mafia then it doesn't matter anyway
[05:28] <Earthworm> i am wingull
[05:28] <tramp> cool
[05:28] <tramp> whats it do
[05:28] <Earthworm> i can use water gun on people
[05:29] <tramp> whats it do
[05:29] <Earthworm> if their pokemon is weak to water then it prevents their action
[05:29] <tramp> thats a bad role
[05:29] <Earthworm> it might get better
[05:29] <Earthworm> once i evolve into pelipper
[05:29] <tramp> how is this done
[05:29] <Earthworm> i told you
[05:29] <Earthworm> iirc
[05:29] <tramp> 3 times?
[05:29] <tramp> used?
[05:29] <Earthworm> [17:18] <Earthworm> hmm
[05:29] <Earthworm> [17:18] <Earthworm> i am a pokemon that can evolve
[05:29] <Earthworm> [17:18] <tramp> do you need anything specific
[05:29] <Earthworm> [17:18] <tramp> i know many items
[05:29] <Earthworm> [17:18] <tramp> that you might need
[05:29] <Earthworm> [17:18] <Earthworm> i need to use my role
[05:30] <Earthworm> yes
[05:31] <Earthworm> i can prove my role t least
[05:31] <tramp> how
[05:31] <tramp> noone claimed a water weak pokemon
[05:31] <tramp> as of now
[05:31] <Earthworm> by using it
[05:31] <Earthworm> lol i see
[05:31] <Earthworm> well
[05:32] <Earthworm> i dunno then
[05:32] <Earthworm> lol
[05:32] <Earthworm> if you find someone i can use it on
[05:32] <Earthworm> then i will prove it
[05:35] <Earthworm> uhhh
[05:35] <Earthworm> any idea who i should target
[05:36] <tramp> ill give you
[05:36] <tramp> a random target
[05:36] <tramp> the sage
[05:36] <Earthworm> ok
[05:36] <Earthworm> 'sage'?
[05:36] <tramp> ye
[05:36] <Earthworm> Night 0 - Water Gun Sage
third log with dak said:
Session Time: Sat Nov 14 00:00:03 2009
[20:07] <Earthworm> hi
[20:11] <Earthworm> dak
[20:12] <tramp> hello
[20:12] <Earthworm> do you want my role PM
[20:12] <Earthworm> as i understand
[20:12] <tramp> yes
[20:12] <Earthworm> that my claim is probably hard to believe without it
[20:12] <Earthworm> since
[20:13] <Earthworm> you say there are no water weak pokemon
[20:13] <Earthworm> ok
[20:13] <Earthworm> can i see yours as well
[20:13] <tramp> no
[20:13] <tramp> i dont believe you
[20:13] <Earthworm> ok here is my role
[20:13] <Earthworm> You are Wingull. You are allied with the Pure.
[20:13] <Earthworm> You have a tendency to collect valuable objects and hide them. You usually live in steep cliffs hanging over seas. It was on one such cliff that Mew found you and asked you to join the Pure in their campaign against the Devious and the Strong.
[20:13] <Earthworm> At night, send Champion Raikage and Boss AvatarST a PM with the title Night [x] - Water Gun [user]. This user will be sprayed by a swift water gun and if they are of a type that is weak to Water, their night role will fail.
[20:13] <Earthworm> You are able to evolve by using your Water Gun three times.
[20:13] <Earthworm> You win if the Pure win.
[20:14] <tramp> at least i wasted your time
[20:14] <tramp> by making you create a fake pm
[20:15] <Earthworm> ???
[20:15] <Earthworm> it is a real PM
[20:15] <tramp> you are a known member of the devious faction
[20:15] <Earthworm> ?
[20:15] <Earthworm> i'm pure
[20:15] <tramp> as pure as a bag of liquified dog turds
[20:15] <Earthworm> lol
[20:15] <Earthworm> whatever
[20:16] <Earthworm> just give me night targets
[20:16] <Earthworm> i hope my evolution has a good role
[20:16] <tramp> just attack sage every night
[20:16] <Earthworm> ok
[20:16] <Earthworm> is he water weak?
[20:17] <tramp> he may or may not be water weak
[20:17] <Earthworm> i see
[20:17] <Earthworm> well if you find someone that is water weak for sure
[20:17] <Earthworm> tell me
Session Time: Sun Nov 15 00:00:04 2009
dak can probably back me up about not knowing my role until I claimed to him. I hope that dak knows LonelyNess' alias, or at least doesn't allow him to mole any longer. As it's probable that Scientist isn't really LonelyNess, if the real Scientist could contact me (or dak if I'm still untrusted for some reason) and share information that will prove or disprove my theory then that would be great.
 
I talked to dak (and LightWolf) and he isn't being very reasonable, here is the log:

#havana said:
Session Start: Sun Nov 15 23:57:23 2009
Session Ident: #havana
[23:57] * Now talking in #havana
[23:57] * Topic is 'when the music's over~ | havana moon'
[23:57] * Set by Raikage on Sat Nov 14 22:35:13
[23:57] <Earthworm> ?
[23:57] <tramp_sleep> you buffoon
[23:57] <LightWolf> EW you are not NICE
[23:57] <tramp_sleep> noone cares
[23:57] <tramp_sleep> are devious
[23:57] <tramp_sleep> we already know
[23:57] <LightWolf> EW you are not NICE
[23:57] <tramp_sleep> you might as well waste 100 more hours
[23:57] <LightWolf> EW you are not NICE
[23:57] <tramp_sleep> ew dont talk to me in pm
[23:57] <tramp_sleep> you idiot
[23:57] <Earthworm> what are you talking about LightWolf
[23:58] <Earthworm> i'm Pure
[23:58] <tramp_sleep> no
[23:58] <LightWolf> dak told me to insult you
[23:58] <LightWolf> EW you are not NICE
[23:58] <Earthworm> and why do you think i'm devious dak
[23:58] <tramp_sleep> i know it
[23:58] <Earthworm> do you mind explaining
[23:58] <LightWolf> dak is all mighty
[23:58] <tramp_sleep> 8============================D
[23:58] <tramp_sleep> go suck this
[23:58] <LightWolf> he knows everything
[23:58] <LightWolf> EW you are not NICE
[23:58] <Earthworm> i will just paste this log
[23:58] <Earthworm> in the thread
[23:58] <LightWolf> lol
[23:58] <tramp_sleep> you are already confirmed devious
[23:58] <LightWolf> EW you are not NICE
[23:58] <tramp_sleep> why even bother pretending
[23:58] <Earthworm> why exactly do you think i am devious
[23:58] <LightWolf> HIIII THREAD IT'S ME LIGHTWOLF
[23:58] <Earthworm> i am not devious
[23:58] <tramp_sleep> the role pm is clearly written
[23:59] <tramp_sleep> in your style of typing anyway
[23:59] <tramp_sleep> it doesnt resemble any other role pm
[23:59] <LightWolf> HOW'S IT GOING THREAD?
[23:59] <tramp_sleep> and no other role based on typing exists
[23:59] <LightWolf> I'M FINE HERE
[23:59] <tramp_sleep> there also are no water weak pokemon at all amongst all claims i have obtained
[23:59] <LightWolf> SO THREAD PLEASE LYNCH DRAGON TAMER YEAH!
[23:59] <Earthworm> why don't you ask Raikage why mine doesn't resemble others
Session Time: Mon Nov 16 00:00:01 2009
[00:00] <tramp_sleep> because you wrote it
[00:00] <Earthworm> and they're probably on the mafias
[00:00] <tramp_sleep> and i already knew before
[00:00] <tramp_sleep> that you are devious
[00:00] <Earthworm> ?
[00:00] <Earthworm> how could you possibly 'know' this, especially when i'm pure
[00:00] <tramp_sleep> another well known fact is
[00:00] <tramp_sleep> everyone that posts their role pm in public
[00:00] <tramp_sleep> is bound to be evil
[00:01] <Earthworm> i did it because i didn't want to be called out onsnipping parts of a log
[00:01] <Earthworm> and how is that a 'well known fact'
[00:01] <tramp_sleep> anyway
[00:01] <tramp_sleep> you can go talk to moot
[00:01] <Earthworm> who makes these well known facts up
[00:01] <tramp_sleep> and fishy
[00:01] <tramp_sleep> if you want vilalge contacts
[00:01] <tramp_sleep> you are already confirmed devious to us
[00:01] <Earthworm> you still have not explained the means of my 'confirmation'
[00:01] <tramp_sleep> why would i tell you
[00:01] <tramp_sleep> when you evil
[00:01] <Earthworm> i'm good
[00:01] <LightWolf> STILL THERE THREAD?
[00:02] <LightWolf> I'M STILL HERE THAT'S SURE
[00:02] <tramp_sleep> the doors is there ------------------->
[00:02] <tramp_sleep> get out
[00:02] <Earthworm> well
[00:02] <Earthworm> hopefully when people see this
[00:02] <Earthworm> they will realise that they're being led by someone who just makes up stuff and claims it is confirmed
[00:02] <LightWolf> SO THREAD HAVE YOU HEARD THAT I'M VILLAGER?
[00:02] <tramp_sleep> you shouldnt tell jumpluff on the phone you are devious
[00:03] <tramp_sleep> when you plan to false claim villager
[00:03] <LightWolf> THAT IS SUCH A GREAT TALK THREAD
[00:03] <Earthworm> i was claiming mafia to a bunch of people
[00:03] <tramp_sleep> yeah right
[00:03] <Earthworm> you can ask them
[00:03] <Earthworm> billymills Bass jumpluff
[00:03] <tramp_sleep> go work with the splinter villagers then
[00:04] <Earthworm> i can provide the logs of these too
[00:04] <Earthworm> except the phone call one obviously
[00:04] <tramp_sleep> i dont want your logs
[00:04] <Earthworm> well i will be posting this one
[00:04] <tramp_sleep> i dont care?
[00:05] <Earthworm> hopefully the rest of the village will
[00:05] <tramp_sleep> nah
[00:05] <LightWolf> BTW BG PROTECT AND PM
[00:05] <tramp_sleep> they know what they are doing
[00:05] <LightWolf> YES THREAD I'M TALKING TO YOU
[00:05] <Earthworm> if they know what they are doing
[00:05] <Earthworm> then they won't listen to you
[00:05] <Earthworm> you claimed electabuzz which is clearly not a pure pokemon
[00:05] <tramp_sleep> you go suck my dick
[00:06] <tramp_sleep> why would i claim it
[00:06] <LightWolf> EW seriously do you really think pure are made of little cute pokemon??????
[00:06] <tramp_sleep> if its clearly not pure
[00:06] <Earthworm> maybe you wanted to make sure you didn't double up
[00:06] <Earthworm> so you decided to claim your own role
[00:06] <Earthworm> but with a different alliance
[00:06] <tramp_sleep> i claimed my own role
[00:06] <tramp_sleep> that is correct
[00:06] <tramp_sleep> but with the right alliance
[00:06] <LightWolf> dak proved his role EW
[00:06] <Earthworm> i don't believe this based on your reactions
[00:06] <Earthworm> how has he proved it
[00:06] <tramp_sleep> i made 1 man evolve
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> and gave another man my second item
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> during n0
[00:07] <Earthworm> you had 2 items?
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> obviously
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> what else would be the point
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> of a 2 item carrying man
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> if he had none
[00:07] <LightWolf> lol
[00:07] <Earthworm> how do i know that someone else on your team
[00:07] <Earthworm> didn't give the items away
[00:07] <Earthworm> and this still doesn't confirm your alliance
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> how do we know you are not devious
[00:07] <Earthworm> i at least have provided my role PM
[00:07] <Earthworm> and offered to prove my role
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> i did
[00:07] <tramp_sleep> i proved my role
[00:08] <tramp_sleep> and gave my roel pm to everyone i dont distrust
[00:08] <tramp_sleep> i.e. everyone but gmax accent kumar and you
[00:08] <Earthworm> you didn't prove it
[00:08] <LightWolf> okay so basically claim the mafia just gave the village two items to make them stronger?
[00:08] <Earthworm> your role cannot be proved
[00:08] <tramp_sleep> making a villager evolve
[00:08] <tramp_sleep> and giving another one an item he needs
[00:08] <tramp_sleep> is as much proving as i can do
[00:08] <tramp_sleep> which should suffice entirely
[00:08] <Earthworm> this could be done to gain trust
[00:08] <tramp_sleep> this could also be done because of being a villager
[00:09] <Earthworm> yes
[00:09] <tramp_sleep> you cant prove any role
[00:09] <tramp_sleep> 100%
[00:09] <Earthworm> but it isn't proving your role
[00:09] <tramp_sleep> if i hook you and claim hooker
[00:09] <tramp_sleep> than i can still be mafia hooker
[00:09] <tramp_sleep> no role can be 100% proven
[00:09] <Earthworm> they can be alliance checked
[00:09] <Earthworm> after that
[00:09] <tramp_sleep> so can i
[00:09] <LightWolf> EW no role can be proved to 100% especially with mole type roles
[00:09] <Earthworm> hopefully mole type roles have been avoided in this game
[00:09] <LightWolf> also
[00:09] <tramp_sleep> they havent
[00:10] <LightWolf> you assume the alliance checker can't be mafia in that case, which is possible too
[00:10] <LightWolf> no person can be cleaned for 100%
[00:10] <tramp_sleep> your argumentation is flawed
[00:10] <Earthworm> they will be cleaned after that person dies
[00:10] <tramp_sleep> that can take
[00:10] <tramp_sleep> 10 nights
[00:10] <Earthworm> well anyway
[00:10] <Earthworm> this has gone away frmo the main point
[00:10] <tramp_sleep> and it will be too late by then
[00:10] <tramp_sleep> in the first place
[00:10] <LightWolf> true if he dies
[00:10] <Earthworm> your role isn't even close to being proven
[00:11] <LightWolf> so basically we need to killthe inspect
[00:11] <LightWolf> to clear a person
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> i dotn se your role
[00:11] <Earthworm> so i t shouldn't be claimed to be proven
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> proven at all
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> i am already proven
[00:11] <Earthworm> i have given you the means of proving it
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> you didnt do anything
[00:11] <Earthworm> find me a water weak pokemon
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> i told you there are no water weak pokemon
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> so far
[00:11] <Earthworm> or wait until i evolve and can prove my new role
[00:11] <LightWolf> yeah find you a water weak
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> raiakge wouldnt make up a role
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> that only works on 3 pokemon
[00:11] <tramp_sleep> in the game
[00:11] <LightWolf> and then you hit it with a mafia hooker
[00:11] <Earthworm> well i can evolve fairly easily
[00:11] <Earthworm> so i theorise that Raikage gave me a stronger role
[00:11] <Earthworm> after i evolve
[00:12] <tramp_sleep> i theorize you are still full of bullshit
[00:13] <LightWolf> yeah you can easily hook if we find you a water weak
[00:13] <Earthworm> you can theorise whatever you want
[00:13] <Earthworm> but do not claim
[00:13] <Earthworm> that i am confirmed bad or you are confirmed good
[00:13] <LightWolf> and then claim you evolved into a full hooker
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> both of this is the claim
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> btw
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> [10:13:35] <Earthworm> You have a tendency to collect valuable objects and hide them. You usually live in steep cliffs hanging over seas. It was on one such cliff that Mew found you and asked you to join the Pure in their campaign against the Devious and the Strong.
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> raikage has never
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> even talked similarily
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> to this
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> but you do all the time
[00:13] <tramp_sleep> i will have lunch now
[00:14] <Earthworm> it's not my fault that Raikage decided to write like that
[00:14] <Earthworm> i must return to studying for my exam on tuesday
[00:14] <Earthworm> i will post this log first
[00:15] <Earthworm> tell me if you want to talk more
Session Close: Mon Nov 16 00:15:07 2009
So yeah, I still think LN is a mole. I'm less sure about dak; he could be clean and just acting rebellious / special etc but he could be mafia too.. I don't think there's time to change the lynch around right now anyway, so I guess just listen to dak for now. I'll probably try talking to moot as well soon.
 
Silly Staraptor. If dak gave you his alias to do that, that's pretty dumb, so I'd recommend he doesn't! Do you even have it?

First off, your fake PM contained a bunch of inconsistencies with the regular village PMs.

Then, you refused to confirm that you were the alias you claimed to be, trying to excuse yourself with faked misconceptions as well as "I don't want to open IE while playing RTM".

And finally, your so called inspection result of night 0 was a 100% impossible result, as verified by other sources.
 
Then, you refused to confirm that you were the alias you claimed to be, trying to excuse yourself with faked misconceptions as well as "I don't want to open IE while playing RTM".
Clearly it would have been more believable if it had been only "I don't want to open IE".
 

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