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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 3 (Competitive Discussion)
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I agree, just leave it at 60 percent accuracy and the mighty and ballsy can only use it :)
I want a Persian with Swift. D:
Does Golduck get Nasty Plot?
Does Golduck get Nasty Plot?
Yeah, Beldum is feeling the love. :)
Too bad it doesn't get Magnet Rise. But lets hope it gets Iron Head and Iron Defense. lol
Raj
CAP Playtesting Expert
New set for Honchkrow:
Anti-lead Honchkrow @ Life Orb
Insomnia
Naughty
6 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Sp Att
~Heat Wave
~Hp Electric/Drill Peck
~Sucker Punch
~Superpower/Drill Peck
All stats over 100% have been omitted and lowered to 100% (OHKO)
Heat Wave to Bronzong- 56% minimum (2OHKO even with Leftovers)
HP Electric to Gyarados- 99.5% minimum lol
Superpower to Tyranitar- 100%
Suckerpunch to Gengar- 100%
Suckerpunch to Azelf- 100%
Superpower to Blissey- 100%
Heat Wave to Yanmega- 100%
HP Electric to Aerodactyl- 100%
Suckerpunch to Jolteon- 100%
As you can see, this Honchkrow packs quite a punch and can effectively rid a team of their lead. Gyarados won't Attack first- dead.
Honchkrow uses Heat Wave, Zong uses Stealth Rock, Honchkrow uses Heat Wave- dead.
Honchkrow uses Superpower, Tyranitar faints.
Jolteon uses T-Bolt, Honckrow attacks first with Suckerpunch- dead Jolteon.
Aerodactyl uses SR, Honchkrow uses HP Electric- dead Aero. If it does survive by some off chance, Suckerpunch finishes it off.
Yanmega used Hypnosis (opponent forgets about Insomnia). Honchkrow uses Heat Wave or Suckerpunch- dead dragonfly.
You get the point... and bonus- it destroys Blissey!
Anti-lead Honchkrow @ Life Orb
Insomnia
Naughty
6 HP/ 252 Att/ 252 Sp Att
~Heat Wave
~Hp Electric/Drill Peck
~Sucker Punch
~Superpower/Drill Peck
All stats over 100% have been omitted and lowered to 100% (OHKO)
Heat Wave to Bronzong- 56% minimum (2OHKO even with Leftovers)
HP Electric to Gyarados- 99.5% minimum lol
Superpower to Tyranitar- 100%
Suckerpunch to Gengar- 100%
Suckerpunch to Azelf- 100%
Superpower to Blissey- 100%
Heat Wave to Yanmega- 100%
HP Electric to Aerodactyl- 100%
Suckerpunch to Jolteon- 100%
As you can see, this Honchkrow packs quite a punch and can effectively rid a team of their lead. Gyarados won't Attack first- dead.
Honchkrow uses Heat Wave, Zong uses Stealth Rock, Honchkrow uses Heat Wave- dead.
Honchkrow uses Superpower, Tyranitar faints.
Jolteon uses T-Bolt, Honckrow attacks first with Suckerpunch- dead Jolteon.
Aerodactyl uses SR, Honchkrow uses HP Electric- dead Aero. If it does survive by some off chance, Suckerpunch finishes it off.
Yanmega used Hypnosis (opponent forgets about Insomnia). Honchkrow uses Heat Wave or Suckerpunch- dead dragonfly.
You get the point... and bonus- it destroys Blissey!
Only problem I see with that is that you'll see teams of 5 Standards + Rotom form simply to reduce the accuracy of their opponents Hypnosis.
But why would you, if it's just going to reduce accuracy?
Honchkrow it a pretty promising pokémon. Now, it actually HAS a movepool! =O Still relies heavily on prediction (unless you want to risk yourself eating a move before attacking lol), but I think I'll finally use it seriously :)
Ooooh! I want to try a Honchcrow! I might breed for one now!
Does anyone have any tips/good movesets for Persian and Golduck? Honchy, Persian, and Goldy are all BL right?
Does anyone have any tips/good movesets for Persian and Golduck? Honchy, Persian, and Goldy are all BL right?
They're both UU...
That's fine! I like UUs and NUs! So cute! ^_^
So yeah... what are some good movesets for them with Platinum out?
So yeah... what are some good movesets for them with Platinum out?
Alakazam says hi. And he has better speed.
but porygons ability and movepool beat alakazams, and he has no pursuit weaks.
edit: i really hope someone gets puruglys tutors up soon, its my only thread poke i dont know for yet :(
edit: i really hope someone gets puruglys tutors up soon, its my only thread poke i dont know for yet :(
Alakazam says by (to pursuit), not that it should stop him, but it's something PZ has over it
As long as I was not using the move Hypnosis on my team, I would absolutely use Platinum to battle even if I didn't have any alternate forms. Isn't the whole point of competitive [anything] to give yourself any advantage you can, no matter how small?
Hax is freakin killing me. Seriously.
Haven't been keeping up. Are any OU's now Uber's? BL's now OU's? UU's now BL's or OU's?
Haven't been keeping up. Are any OU's now Uber's? BL's now OU's? UU's now BL's or OU's?
I'm more interested in Trick Claydol.
Imagine a Trick Claydol with Iron Ball. Effectively, you could allow Claydol to hit anything that would normally be immune its most powerful STAB while crippling their speed. Totally ruins DDDos. The downside is not being able to switch into EQ yourself, but most EQs won't ruin you now that Garchomp is gone, and you probably wouldn't switch into Mamoswine anyway.
Iron Ball totally ruins Skarmory. Without a Ground Immunity it loses its greatest competitive advantage. Gengar doesn't like it either, and hates losing the speed to boot.
Claydol also has enough defenses to pull Trick Off with refularity, exactly when it needs to.
But maybe I'm just too easily excited.
Perhaps a set:
Claydol @ Iron Ball
Nature: Modest
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/252 SA/4 Spe
~ Trick
~ Earth Power
~ Shadow Ball
~ Calm Mind
A little risky perhaps since you won't have Ground immunity, but this easily dispatches of Gengar, who switches into Trick and gets hit with Iron Ball, removing Ground Immunity and halving speed to less than Claydols. Earth Power can then OHKO. After Gengar is dispatched (or, alternatively, switches out and basically crippled unless it too has Trick and can pull it off without getting killed), you can Trick its Black Sludge (or whatever) onto another pokemon. CM/Shadow Ball to take care of other Ghosts.
Imagine a Trick Claydol with Iron Ball. Effectively, you could allow Claydol to hit anything that would normally be immune its most powerful STAB while crippling their speed. Totally ruins DDDos. The downside is not being able to switch into EQ yourself, but most EQs won't ruin you now that Garchomp is gone, and you probably wouldn't switch into Mamoswine anyway.
Iron Ball totally ruins Skarmory. Without a Ground Immunity it loses its greatest competitive advantage. Gengar doesn't like it either, and hates losing the speed to boot.
Claydol also has enough defenses to pull Trick Off with refularity, exactly when it needs to.
But maybe I'm just too easily excited.
Perhaps a set:
Claydol @ Iron Ball
Nature: Modest
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/252 SA/4 Spe
~ Trick
~ Earth Power
~ Shadow Ball
~ Calm Mind
A little risky perhaps since you won't have Ground immunity, but this easily dispatches of Gengar, who switches into Trick and gets hit with Iron Ball, removing Ground Immunity and halving speed to less than Claydols. Earth Power can then OHKO. After Gengar is dispatched (or, alternatively, switches out and basically crippled unless it too has Trick and can pull it off without getting killed), you can Trick its Black Sludge (or whatever) onto another pokemon. CM/Shadow Ball to take care of other Ghosts.
Not yet, it's all speculation.
I expect the tier listings to change greatly, though. Like now, Lapras and Steelix should be definitely booted to BL.
Ice Beam got lowered to 95%, along with flamethrower and thunderbolt
jk, but seriously gamefreak should make up their minds about what they want the acc of moves to be =/
EDIT;; Nevermind. xD
Yeah, someone should test. Obi's research sticky should be updated with Platinum stuff, if it hasn't yet.
Yeah, someone should test. Obi's research sticky should be updated with Platinum stuff, if it hasn't yet.
They were already 95%.