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Porygon 2

Discussion in 'Global Battle Union' started by Ashenlock, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. Ashenlock


    Aug 17, 2007
    Even before the existence of Eviolite people were starting to pass up Porygon-Z for its pre-evolution. Porygon 2 is one of the most well-boosted Eviolite users, like other Pokemon that were originally final stages. Access to Electric- and Ice-type moves gives it well-rounded coverage, and a couple good abilities mean it has the ability to turn things around.

    Porygon 2 #233

    HP: 85
    Atk: 80
    Def: 90
    SpA: 105
    SpD: 95
    Spe: 60​

    Level-Up moves​

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    [LEFT]--Conversion 2
    --Defense Curl
    Lv7 Psybeam
    Lv12 Agility
    Lv18 Recover
    Lv23 Magnet Rise
    Lv29 Signal Beam
    Lv34 Recycle
    Lv40 Discharge
    Lv45 Lock
    Lv51 Tri Attack
    Lv56 Magic Coat
    Lv62 Zap Cannon
    Lv67 Hyper Beam

    Machine moves​

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    [LEFT]TM03 PsyShock
    TM06 Toxic
    TM10 Hidden Power
    TM11 Sunny Day
    TM13 Ice Beam
    TM14 Blizzard
    TM15 Hyper Beam
    TM17 Protect
    TM18 Rain Dance
    TM21 Frustration
    TM22 SolarBeam
    TM24 Thunderbolt
    TM25 Thunder
    TM29 Psychic
    TM30 Shadow Ball
    TM32 Double Team
    TM40 Aerial Ace
    TM42 Facade
    TM44 Rest
    TM46 Thief
    TM48 Round
    TM57 Charge Beam
    TM68 Giga Impact
    TM70 Flash
    TM73 Thunder Wave
    TM77 Psych Up
    TM85 Dream Eater
    TM87 Swagger
    TM90 Substitute
    TM92 Trick Room
    Gen IV Tutor Moves
    (Pt/HG/SSIcy Wind
    (Pt/HG/SSLast Resort
    (Pt/HG/SSSignal Beam
    (Pt/HG/SSZen Headbutt
    (HG/SSPain Split
    (HG/SSRole Play

    Porygon 2 -> Double Battles

    ->Red Mage<-

    Porygon 2 @ Eviolite
    +Trace / Download+
    252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
    -Charge Beam / Thunderbolt / Tri Attack
    -Ice Beam / Tri Attack
    -Thunder Wave / Icy Wind
    -Recover / Protect

    Called the Red Mage because it does a little bit of everything: it hurts and it heals, it enfeebles and it enhances, and it's slashed to high hell. (Also I couldn't think of anything "appropriate" like Standard, Special, etc.) Thunder Wave something or a couple somethings, Ice Beam what you can, Charge Beam what Ice Beam doesn't hit or what is too strong at the moment to beat, and Recover off the damage when you are able.

    Icy Wind is another option if you have teammates fast enough to beat out the opposition when the foes are at 2/3 of their normal Spe. It hits both foes (most of the time) and has no type immunities, but it doesn't reduce Spe by a whole ton or stop the foes from attacking 25% of the time.

    Trace and Download are both coin flip abilities, both in who they select and what they give you. It's hard to make a judgment on such things. If Download targets a SpD-weak Pokemon, you'll have over 250 SpA at once without having to Charge Beam, and if you Trace Intimidate or Swift Swim, you can really change the game. Generally I prefer Download, but Trace is still useful and not to be forgotten.

    Tri Attack is included to not be walled by Lanturn and provide a stronger STAB attack, but prepare to be walled by other things with the loss of coverage, unless you want to lose one of Porygon 2's status-category moves.

    The EVs are, as usual for the super-general GBU, very unspecific. If you want to make the most out of the Eviolite, you can split the SpA EVs between the defenses, or, if you're just out to KO the 4x Ice-weak-Dragons and Gyarados, you can find the SpA investment needed to KO them both with your offensive moves.

    ->Trick Room<-

    Porygon 2 @ Eviolite
    252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
    -Trick Room
    -Ice Beam / Tri Attack
    -Thunderbolt / Tri Attack
    -Magic Coat / Protect

    Download is chosen here because, if the two abilities were roughly equal before, Download edges out Trace a bit because of the presence of Swift Swim often in tandem with Politoed on Drizzle teams (If you want to hope for Inner Focus or something else, though, it may be to your benefit to keep Trace).

    Here Thunder Wave and Icy Wind are sacrificed for the Trick Room spot, although they wouldn't be useful in TR anyway. The coverage moves are about the same, with Tri Attack in the background in case you don't need general coverage and want a stronger attack. Thunerbolt is chosen over Charge Beam this time because Porygon 2 plays a less stallish role, tending to want to hit hard while it can, and if it can't, disappear until Trick Room is necessary again.

    Magic Coat is chosen here because it guards against Taunt, Sleep, and a turn 2 Encore from Whimsicott if the foe thinks you're going to stay in against it. Protect is chosen above Recover because of the same reason as Thunderbolt; Porygon 2 isn't (necessarily) playing in a Drought or Drizzle team, where, against many opponents, the effect will never end. Trick Room is inherently limited, and Porygon 2 doesn't want to fool around trying to win a war of being hit then recovering; Protect is preferred in this scenario because it tends to serve the one-turn purpose of stopping one attack while your partner deals with the other foe.
  2. Crafty Scrafty

    Crafty Scrafty

    Jul 21, 2011
    Porygon2 can also work for Trick Room. Because of his ridiculous bulk, chances are he'll survive the first few turns with ease and probably last a very long time. Magic Coat could also be an option for Dark Void Smeargle and Taunt users (on a Trick Room set).
  3. Arcticblast

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    Nov 29, 2008
    The Red Mage set is walled to hell and back by Lanturn unless you use Tri Attack.
  4. Superpokemon67


    Aug 7, 2011
    I ditto Magic Cout, it could be a real game changer in the right situation.
  5. DreamTalon


    Jun 13, 2011
    I ditto Trick Room, it could also change a game. A set isn't required, but a note in the options would suffice.
  6. cosmicexplorer

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    May 25, 2010
    A bulky Trick Room user is how I most often see Porygon2. It's excellent for the role, without the weaknesses to Dark and Ghost that most Trick Room users have and with its customary excellent bulk, as well as its excellent coverage in BoltBeam and usable Special Attack. It can even run an all-out defensive Trick Room set, although the lack of Helping Hand is annoying.
  7. Ashenlock


    Aug 17, 2007
    I don't know why I didn't even include Trick Room in the "to be added" list. Thank y'all for reminding me about it. I'll get to work on it.
  8. DreamTalon


    Jun 13, 2011
    I'm looking at the Trick Room set, and what I'm noticing is that it may be taking too much from Close Combat Infernape and Hitmontop. What I'm saying may be wrong, but I'll edit in some calcs either way. Maybe an EV spread to make them 3HKOs after Fake Out.

    EDIT: Neither OHKO after Fake Out. Eviolite makes it insanely bulky.

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