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Gen 3 RoA CCaT Cycle 1: ADV OU - Mission Aborted

Discussion in 'Ruins of Alph' started by Triangles, Jul 15, 2012.

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  1. Triangles

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    Residents of Jinsy, stand by your tesselators, and sing, sing, sing *coughs* because the inaugural RoA CCaT is here!

    OK - Jelli gave me permission to host this CCaT in whatever gen and tier I wanted, and I chose ADV OU. (as the tiers change in future CCaTs, so will the hosts probably). I am nicking these rules, steps, and guidelines from Pocket's OU CCaT, just with some adjustments, to suit ADV OU better.

    Begin suggesting pokes and sets for the team - as I mentioned earlier, use common sense and this will work great with enough activity. remember - don't theorymon - use tested sets.

    Good luck and have fun!

    THE CURRENT TEAM:

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    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
    Timid or Modest Nature
    ~ Metal Sound
    ~ Thunderbolt
    ~ Hidden Power [Ice / Grass]
    ~ Roar / Toxic / Thunder Wave / Baton Pass / Rest

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    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shell Armor
    EVs: 252 HP / 80 SAtk / 176 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Explosion
    - Spikes
    - Surf
    - Rapid Spin

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    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 80 Spd / 76 SDef
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Fire Punch / Ice Punch
    - Giga Drain
    - Thunderbolt
    - Will-O-Wisp / Hypnosis
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    FORGOTTEN WONDER NOMINATIONS

    Pocket's nominations.

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    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 252 HP / 72 Def / 184 Spe
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    ~ Baton Pass
    ~ Mean Look
    ~ Taunt
    ~ Wish

    Chaosbreon! It's a pretty mean strategy; Mean Look, Taunt, and Baton Pass to a counter - rinse and repeat. It also doubles up as a Wish passer ;d This Umbreon is usually paired with Perish Song Celebi.

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    Slaking @ Choice Band
    Trait: Traunt
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Adamant or Jolly Nature
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Focus Punch / Fury Swipes
    ~ Return / Double-Edge
    ~ Shadow Ball

    All vets use CB King, lol. It's pretty hard to make a team around this mon, so it will be a good challenge, imo. Whenever I make a CB Slaking team, they always end up defensive. Focus Punch is great to nail Skarmory and Forretress, but Fury Swipes is useful to break Substitute.

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    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
    Timid or Modest Nature
    ~ Metal Sound
    ~ Thunderbolt
    ~ Hidden Power [Ice / Grass]
    ~ Roar / Toxic / Thunder Wave / Baton Pass / Rest

    Metal Sound Zapdos :d I have used Metal Sound Magneton to great success, and can only imagine Zapdos pulling it off much better. Most Zapdos are specially defensive, so this would be a nice take of this Pokemon.

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    Machamp @ Leftovers
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk (I dunno)
    Adamant Nature prolly
    ~ Bulk Up
    ~ Cross Chop
    ~ Hidden Power [Bug / Ghost]
    ~ Rock Slide

    I almost lost to this thing - it can be quite scary once it gets going. Not sure what the EVs were. With Snorlax and especially Tyranitar being so prevalent in this metagame, it should not be hard for Machamp to find an opportunity to start bulking up.

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    Dragonite @ Leftovers
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 132 HP / 108 Atk / 48 SpA / 4 SpD / 216 Spe
    Lonely or Adamant Nature
    ~ Dragon Dance
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Hidden Power [Flying]
    ~ Thunder / Double-Edge

    Dragonite has been overshadowed by Salamence, but it does have some perks, such as being pretty sturdy on the specially defensive side - iirc with those defensive EVs, it has no problems surviving non-STAB Ice Beams. Enough Speed to outrun CB Dugtrio after a DD. Thunder does hefty damage to Milotic (38~45%) and Suicune (39~47%) and obviously Skarmory and Gyarados. Double-Edge, however is better against Swampert and Zapdos. A double-dragon may not be a bad concept here.

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    Snorlax @ Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 148 HP / 100 Atk / 160 Def / 96 SpD / 4 Spe
    Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA)
    ~ Belly Drum
    ~ Rest
    ~ Return / Body Slam
    ~ Shadow Ball / Earthquake

    Baller set - experimented this post-ADV and it was decent. Obviously you'd want a back-up Pokemon to deal with dangerous special threats. Try Leech-stalling against this Celebi!

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    Electabuzz @ Leftovers
    Trait: Static
    EVs: 8 HP / 140 Atk / 240 SpA / 120 Spe
    Hasty Nature (+Spe, -Def)
    ~ Cross Chop
    ~ Ice Punch
    ~ Substitute / Hidden Power [Grass]
    ~ Thunder

    Electabuzz has that nifty Speed and great coverage to be a surprisingly viable mon, imo. Ice Punch is nice to nail Salamence and Celebi, while Cross Chop punishes Magneton, Blissey, Snorlax, and Tyranitar. Not many Pokemon enjoys taking STAB Thunder from this thing. Substitute is to ease prediction and to prevent revenge-killing from Dugtrio. Bulky mons like ZAPDOS, Swampert (without HP Grass), Celebi, and Snorlax are still hard to take down with Electabuzz's offense, but with some offensive partners and lures Electabuzz can pull some mid- late-game sweep.


    Floppy's nomination

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    Ursaring (F# @ Leftovers ** yogey
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Spd / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature #+SDef, -SAtk#
    - Bulk Up
    - Earthquake
    - Frustration
    - Hidden Power [Ghost]

    Get in a bulk up, clean house.


    D4RR3N's nomination

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    Heracross #M# @ Leftovers
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature #+Atk, -SAtk#
    - Substitute
    - Focus Punch
    - Rock Slide
    - Megahorn

    p powerful set


    meteor64's nominations

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    Nidoking #M# @ Choice Band
    Trait: Poison Point
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature #+Atk, -SAtk#
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Megahorn

    Toxic and Thunder Wave immunity, pretty nifty STAB combo #Poison actually gels well with Ground#, spreads status #albeit an inferior one# with both Poison Point and Sludge Bomb, and access to Megahorn. Beats most Zapdos, checks most Raikou, but in general just gets free switches and hits things hard. On paper this looks totally unsuited for OU since Psychic, Surf, Ice Beam and EQ weaknesses rolled into one is absolutely awful, but I've been playing with this and its been pulling its weight just fine. It will need support dealing with Skarm and Pert though.

    Salamence #M# @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
    Adamant Nature #+Atk, -SAtk#
    - Dragon Dance
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Earthquake
    - Toxic

    Toxic the inevitable Bulky Water and wear them down over the course of the match. Pretty self explanatory. Also will need Magneton.

    Porygon2 @ Leftovers
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP / 164 Atk / 88 Def / 4 Spd
    Relaxed Nature #+Def, -Spd#
    - Sharpen
    - Return
    - Thunderbolt
    - Recover

    Use in conjunction with Celebi or Heracross #or even both). If Duggy comes in to revenge, set up to +6 and revenge it back. Also a good SkarmBliss counter, and its not totally useless when theres no Duggy to trap.


    my nominations

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    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 Atk / 16 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Drill Peck
    - Thunderbolt
    - Substitute
    - Hidden Power [Grass]

    An interesting offensively oriented Zapdos designed to lure in Celebi and damage it with Drill Peck. With Spikes support, this set could really be interesting and fun to use due to its wallbreaking prowess. The EVs are simple - max attack with a boosting nature and enough Speed to get the jump on the admittedly rarer Jolly Heracross. The rest is just dumped into Special Attack. There are some other (bulkier) spreads I have in mind, the spread is very flexible.

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    Raikou @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 116 SDef / 140 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Hidden Power [Grass/Ice] / Roar

    In contrast with the last set, an offensive take on a defensive Pokemon, this is a defensive take on an offensive poke. Like GSC Raikou, this set's focus is special walling. It's one of the best Gengar counters there is, due to no longer fearing Hypnosis, and also unlike RestTalk Zapdos, not being weak to Ice Punch. It makes a top-notch switchin to Bulky Waters as well, and with Roar it's also the game's best counter to all forms of Suicune, and a decent one to CM Jirachi. It's also a great Zapdos check. However, Dugtrio really does make this dog's day a misery, in that a Hidden Power from this EV spread is unable to KO it.


    Umby's nomination

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    Jynx (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Oblivious
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Ice Beam
    - Lovely Kiss
    - Substitute


    shrapn3l's nominations

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    Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Effect Spore
    EVs: 44 HP / 216 Atk / 64 Def / 184 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Focus Punch
    - Leech Seed
    - Spore
    - Substitute

    Works well if you can remove Celebi and perhaps Gengar. Leech Seed and Spore are incredibly difficult to play around, and Focus Punch hits anything that isn't immune pretty hard. Spikes are useful because it forces tons of switches.


    Entei @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 132 HP / 160 Spd / 216 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Calm Mind
    - Substitute

    Somewhat like Subcune in that it can set up on Blissey and beat it 1 on 1. However, instead of being able to set up on bulky waters, Entei is more suited to taking advantage of things like Celebi and Jirachi. Unlike Raikou, Entei can actually hit and OHKO Dugtrio with STABed Fire Blast, so it can't come in while you Sub and survive your attack to KO you. Probably would benefit from Wish support so it can keep coming in on Celebi and whatnot. Not the best Pokemon by any means but it certainly seems like it'd be fun and challenging to build a team around, plus it looks really cool.

    Gyarados (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 212 HP / 188 Atk / 108 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Dance
    - Taunt / Double-Edge

    DD Gyara with bulky EVs. Nothing too obscure, but, imo, severely underplayed. Sets up on bulky waters and Forry really easily which is good for this current meta.


    TheDuzzMaster's nominations

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    Alakazam @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Fire Punch
    - Encore

    Encore Zam is one of the most annoying pokémon to face. It can easily switch in on moves like Substitute, Recover, Wish, Heal bell, Swords dance etc. use Encore en start setting up Calm Minds. Imo its one of the best special sweepers in the game.


    Dodrio @ Choice Band
    Trait: Early Bird
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Return
    - Drill Peck
    - Hidden Power [Ground]
    - Baton Pass

    Hits like a truck. He does need Magneton support to get rid it Skarmory/Forretress but with Baton Pass it should be very easy to trap them.


    Espeon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 200 HP / 236 SDef / 72 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Calm Mind
    - Substitute
    - Baton Pass

    EspyJump. Copied it straight from the analysis. Anyone who have doubts about this set should read the analysis page, Jumpman16 did a great job explaining why this creature deserves more love.


    FIRST ROUND TEAMMATE NOMINATIONS

    shrapn3l's nomination

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    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shell Armor
    EVs: 252 HP / 80 SAtk / 176 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Explosion
    - Spikes
    - Surf
    - Rapid Spin


    Crystal_'s nomination

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    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 212 Atk / 116 SAtk / 180 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Fire Punch
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Ice Punch
    - Explosion


    DracoMalfoy's nomination

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    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 80 Spd / 76 SDef
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Fire Punch / Ice Punch
    - Giga Drain
    - Thunderbolt
    - Will-O-Wisp / Hypnosis


    meteor64's nomination

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    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 252 HP / 212 Def / 40 Sp. Atk
    Relaxed Nature
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Ice Beam
    ~ Rest
    ~ Sleep Talk


    Pocket's nomination

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    Metagross @ Choice Band / Leftovers / Liechi Berry
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpA)
    ~ Meteor Mash
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Rock Slide / Substitute
    ~ Explosion / Agility


    undisputed's/my nomination

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    Forretress (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Rapid Spin
    - Spikes
    - Hidden Power [Bug] / Earthquake
    - Explosion / Earthquake


    Umby's nomination

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    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 240 HP / 56 Def / 36 Spd / 176 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Thunder Wave
    - Psychic
    - Reflect
    - Wish
  3. Kevin Garrett

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    Sunny Day Charizard fits the bill for this project. CB Tauros would be an interesting choice to build around too.
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    Jynx (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Oblivious
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Ice Beam
    - Lovely Kiss
    - Substitute
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    Guys, you need to post the sets with proper explanations to count as a nom!

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    Umbreon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 252 HP / 72 Def / 184 Spe
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    ~ Baton Pass
    ~ Mean Look
    ~ Taunt
    ~ Wish

    Chaosbreon! It's a pretty mean strategy; Mean Look, Taunt, and Baton Pass to a counter - rinse and repeat. It also doubles up as a Wish passer ;d This Umbreon is usually paired with Perish Song Celebi.

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    Slaking @ Choice Band
    Trait: Traunt
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Adamant or Jolly Nature
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Focus Punch / Fury Swipes
    ~ Return / Double-Edge
    ~ Shadow Ball

    All vets use CB King, lol. It's pretty hard to make a team around this mon, so it will be a good challenge, imo. Whenever I make a CB Slaking team, they always end up defensive. Focus Punch is great to nail Skarmory and Forretress, but Fury Swipes is useful to break Substitute.

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    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe
    Timid or Modest Nature
    ~ Metal Sound
    ~ Thunderbolt
    ~ Hidden Power [Ice / Grass]
    ~ Roar / Toxic / Thunder Wave / Baton Pass / Rest

    Metal Sound Zapdos :d I have used Metal Sound Magneton to great success, and can only imagine Zapdos pulling it off much better. Most Zapdos are specially defensive, so this would be a nice take of this Pokemon.

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    Machamp @ Leftovers
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk (I dunno)
    Adamant Nature prolly
    ~ Bulk Up
    ~ Cross Chop
    ~ Hidden Power [Bug / Ghost]
    ~ Rock Slide

    I almost lost to this thing - it can be quite scary once it gets going. Not sure what the EVs were. With Snorlax and especially Tyranitar being so prevalent in this metagame, it should not be hard for Machamp to find an opportunity to start bulking up.

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    Dragonite @ Leftovers
    Trait: Inner Focus
    EVs: 132 HP / 108 Atk / 48 SpA / 4 SpD / 216 Spe
    Lonely or Adamant Nature
    ~ Dragon Dance
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Hidden Power [Flying]
    ~ Thunder / Double-Edge

    Dragonite has been overshadowed by Salamence, but it does have some perks, such as being pretty sturdy on the specially defensive side - iirc with those defensive EVs, it has no problems surviving non-STAB Ice Beams. Enough Speed to outrun CB Dugtrio after a DD. Thunder does hefty damage to Milotic (38~45%) and Suicune (39~47%) and obviously Skarmory and Gyarados. Double-Edge, however is better against Swampert and Zapdos. A double-dragon may not be a bad concept here.

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    Snorlax @ Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 148 HP / 100 Atk / 160 Def / 96 SpD / 4 Spe
    Careful Nature (+SpD, -SpA)
    ~ Belly Drum
    ~ Rest
    ~ Return / Body Slam
    ~ Shadow Ball / Earthquake

    Baller set - experimented this post-ADV and it was decent. Obviously you'd want a back-up Pokemon to deal with dangerous special threats. Try Leech-stalling against this Celebi!

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    Electabuzz @ Leftovers
    Trait: Static
    EVs: 8 HP / 140 Atk / 240 SpA / 120 Spe
    Hasty Nature (+Spe, -Def)
    ~ Cross Chop
    ~ Ice Punch
    ~ Substitute / Hidden Power [Grass]
    ~ Thunder

    Electabuzz has that nifty Speed and great coverage to be a surprisingly viable mon, imo. Ice Punch is nice to nail Salamence and Celebi, while Cross Chop punishes Magneton, Blissey, Snorlax, and Tyranitar. Not many Pokemon enjoys taking STAB Thunder from this thing. Substitute is to ease prediction and to prevent revenge-killing from Dugtrio. Bulky mons like ZAPDOS, Swampert (without HP Grass), Celebi, and Snorlax are still hard to take down with Electabuzz's offense, but with some offensive partners and lures Electabuzz can pull some mid- late-game sweep.
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    Ursaring (F) @ Leftovers ** yogey
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Spd / 252 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Bulk Up
    - Earthquake
    - Frustration
    - Hidden Power [Ghost]

    Get in a bulk up, clean house.
  7. Triangles

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    Pocket - for now I'm putting all of your suggestions in here but you're probably going to have to cut down to 3 nominations (sorry), but that is flexible. If we are lacking I'll enter them all.
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    Heracross (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Guts
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Substitute
    - Focus Punch
    - Rock Slide
    - Megahorn

    p powerful set
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    Nidoking (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Poison Point
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Megahorn

    Toxic and Thunder Wave immunity, pretty nifty STAB combo (Poison actually gels well with Ground), spreads status (albeit an inferior one) with both Poison Point and Sludge Bomb, and access to Megahorn. Beats most Zapdos, checks most Raikou, but in general just gets free switches and hits things hard. On paper this looks totally unsuited for OU since Psychic, Surf, Ice Beam and EQ weaknesses rolled into one is absolutely awful, but I've been playing with this and its been pulling its weight just fine. It will need support dealing with Skarm and Pert though.

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Earthquake
    - Toxic

    Toxic the inevitable Bulky Water and wear them down over the course of the match. Pretty self explanatory. Also will need Magneton.

    Porygon2 @ Leftovers
    Trait: Trace
    EVs: 252 HP / 164 Atk / 88 Def / 4 Spd
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Sharpen
    - Return
    - Thunderbolt
    - Recover

    Use in conjunction with Celebi or Heracross (or even both). If Duggy comes in to revenge, set up to +6 and revenge it back. Also a good SkarmBliss counter, and its not totally useless when theres no Duggy to trap.
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    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 Atk / 16 SAtk / 240 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Drill Peck
    - Thunderbolt
    - Substitute
    - Hidden Power [Grass]

    An interesting offensively oriented Zapdos designed to lure in Celebi and damage it with Drill Peck. With Spikes support, this set could really be interesting and fun to use due to its wallbreaking prowess. The EVs are simple - max attack with a boosting nature and enough Speed to get the jump on the admittedly rarer Jolly Heracross. The rest is just dumped into Special Attack. There are some other (bulkier) spreads I have in mind, the spread is very flexible.

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    Raikou @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 116 SDef / 140 Spd
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Hidden Power [Grass/Ice] / Roar

    In contrast with the last set, an offensive take on a defensive Pokemon, this is a defensive take on an offensive poke. Like GSC Raikou, this set's focus is special walling. It's one of the best Gengar counters there is, due to no longer fearing Hypnosis, and also unlike RestTalk Zapdos, not being weak to Ice Punch. It makes a top-notch switchin to Bulky Waters as well, and with Roar it's also the game's best counter to all forms of Suicune, and a decent one to CM Jirachi. It's also a great Zapdos check. However, Dugtrio really does make this dog's day a misery, in that a Hidden Power from this EV spread is unable to KO it.
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    You have 24 hours before nominations close and the voting process begins. Now is your chance to post that surprisingly good set you made. Now is the time for you to raise our awareness of an underrated Pokemon with a niche in the ADV OU metagame. Now is the time to nominate a set that you feel that it would be really fun for the community to build a team around. Guys, get nominating and enjoy yourselves!
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    Breloom (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Effect Spore
    EVs: 44 HP / 216 Atk / 64 Def / 184 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Focus Punch
    - Leech Seed
    - Spore
    - Substitute

    Works well if you can remove Celebi and perhaps Gengar. Leech Seed and Spore are incredibly difficult to play around, and Focus Punch hits anything that isn't immune pretty hard. Spikes are useful because it forces tons of switches.


    Entei @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 132 HP / 160 Spd / 216 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Calm Mind
    - Substitute

    Somewhat like Subcune in that it can set up on Blissey and beat it 1 on 1. However, instead of being able to set up on bulky waters, Entei is more suited to taking advantage of things like Celebi and Jirachi. Unlike Raikou, Entei can actually hit and OHKO Dugtrio with STABed Fire Blast, so it can't come in while you Sub and survive your attack to KO you. Probably would benefit from Wish support so it can keep coming in on Celebi and whatnot. Not the best Pokemon by any means but it certainly seems like it'd be fun and challenging to build a team around, plus it looks really cool.

    Gyarados (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 212 HP / 188 Atk / 108 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Earthquake
    - Dragon Dance
    - Taunt / Double-Edge

    DD Gyara with bulky EVs. Nothing too obscure, but, imo, severely underplayed. Sets up on bulky waters and Forry really easily which is good for this current meta.
  13. TheDuzzMaster

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    Alakazam @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Fire Punch
    - Encore

    Encore Zam is one of the most annoying pokémon to face. It can easily switch in on moves like Substitute, Recover, Wish, Heal bell, Swords dance etc. use Encore en start setting up Calm Minds. Imo its one of the best special sweepers in the game.


    Dodrio @ Choice Band
    Trait: Early Bird
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Return
    - Drill Peck
    - Hidden Power [Ground]
    - Baton Pass

    Hits like a truck. He does need Magneton support to get rid it Skarmory/Forretress but with Baton Pass it should be very easy to trap them.


    Espeon @ Leftovers
    Trait: Synchronize
    EVs: 200 HP / 236 SDef / 72 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Psychic
    - Calm Mind
    - Substitute
    - Baton Pass

    EspyJump. Copied it straight from the analysis. Anyone who have doubts about this set should read the analysis page, Jumpman16 did a great job explaining why this creature deserves more love.
  14. Triangles

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    Gentlemen, the voting process is now upon us. The rules are simple. One man, one vote. In theory you can vote for your own nominated sets, although that's just narcissistic. It's democracy with Leftovers. The sets eligible to be voted on are the following:

    Chaosbreon
    CB Slaking
    MSdos
    Bulk Up Machamp
    DDnite
    Drumlax
    Mixed Electabuzz
    Bulk Up Ursaring
    Fast SubPunch Heracross
    CB Nidoking
    Toxic+DDmence
    Sharpen P2
    Mixed Zapdos
    RestTalk Raikou
    CM Jynx
    SubSeedPunch Breloom
    CM Entei
    Bulky DD Gyara
    SunnyZard
    CB Tauros
    Encorezam
    CB Dodrio
    EspyJump

    Make sure you post your vote in bold. The exact sets are listed in Post 2, except for Kevin Garrett's two nominations, but we'll presume that theose sets are as they are in their respective on-site analysis. The process lasts 48 hours - after 48 hours I will count the votes up and we will have our first "Forgotten Wonder".
  15. sandshrewz

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    I really liked the discussion about Raikou on IRC, so I'm going with Triangles's RestTalk Raikou ^_^
  16. San_Pellegrino

    San_Pellegrino the eternal dreamer
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    i'd like to see msdos gain some more respect
  17. MarceloDK

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    Pocket's Drumlax, cause it seems a neat stallbreaker that can obliterate a lot of standard teams if played well.
  18. meteor64

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    CM Jynx. It was this or the bulky Raikou, but seeing how that already has a vote...
  19. Umby

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    It's not really narcissistic for me to vote for CM Jynx. Why wouldn't I want to vote for my own nomination?
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    restalk raikou
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    Pocket's MSDos, let's get it ^.^
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    Pocket Apo, the astronaut's best friend >:3
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    Yes, let's go with Metal Sound Zapdos plz.
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    metal sound zapdos
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