That might be true, Havak, but I think that even giving it a Suspect Test will just fuel the Shaymin-S is uber fire. I disagree for numerous reasons that Skymin deserves to be looked at, but I'm sure that's already been debated in the Platinum discussion threads in Stark Mountain. I'm worried that we're getting far too eager to put things up for suspect testing. Garchomp needed to be done, but in reality we should be trying to add more Pokemon to Standard and not taking them away. My point in my edit about testing Latios and Latias before testing for Deoxys-S/Shaymin-S bans I think still holds merit. With a full range of options, we should try to add more to the metagame before removing. Such as, if Latios and Latias do get moved to Standard without Soul Dew, that might mean we have to look at moving Skymin down again, assuming it gets banned. If we test things to add after removing others, then its not getting the full spectrum of what it might face. If we test to add before removing, we might find some problems will balance themselves out. I will reiterate: Skymin is nowhere near the level that Garchomp was. It takes 25% from SR, and is very fragile. However, I will not disagree with testing it eventually, but I think we should let the Platinum hype die down a bit first, and testing additions to the metagame first before banning tests.